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Thanks Bruticus! I'm glad the valve works out. It's an old handle from (I think) the old metal deff dread. I needed something to break up the top of the tank, and it seems to make sense. You know, having a big release valve on your pressurized tank of promethium, which isn't pyrophoric or anything...

His boots and mask have not been sanded down quite yet. The GS is still curing on his boots, and I've been a touch lazy with his mask. The small little areas like his bracelets probably won't see much sanding as they're almost too small to notice. Of course, the truth is that some sanding won't really fix poor sculpting

I've been meaning to buy some good cabling, and I shall! Soon...

All right! I've managed to get a lot more work done on the Lady and some on the mutant as well. I've got to wait for some GS to dry before I hammer out final details, but there will be updates soon.

For now, it's diablo time! PM me if you want to join in

Very cool looking stuff!

I like it, though your greenstuff could still use a little work. I remember back when I was at the stage (still am, often enough), but it was really improved when I got a sculpting tool or two. One thing I do is smooth everything out while it's still very fresh and carve off extra bits. You would be surprised at how smooth an edge you can get from craving and filing an area.

Also, you might have stated this earlier, but I may not have spotted it. Do you put vaseline or grease on your sculpting tool(s) to prevent stickage? Also, do you have a rounded tool or equivalent you could use for the round parts? That would help smooth the stuff out a lot too.

Kaesar II, arrogantly offering advice since 1744. Hope it helps

I think your green stuff work looks good. Nice use of the ghoul.
GS is not all that easy to work with. IT takes practice and learning over time. The only way i have gotten good with it is by going through four or five ounces of the stuff sculpting on different projects. Keep practicing and working with it. A hint that i got early on is to not over work. Do a little bit at a time and try to do stuff that is really detailed in multiple stages. I found a tutorial somewhere that showed how to sculpt a Gimli, in about 9 stages. Look around and see if you can find it. it was a good un.

Thanks guys for the tips! It's true, I'm really not all that talented in GS sculpting. At all I've been using a tool that I made myself to sculpt as of late out of a bit of sprue, as I've mentioned, I think. It works out pretty well, but I really just need to pony up and pay for real tools




That's about what it looks like. It sure beats an exacto and one's fingers, for sure.


Speaking of green stuff, I've been able to get work done on the mutant, basically just adding a hose from his back tank and his flamer.

Not too groundbreaking, but I think he's finished well enough now and ready for paint. Last chance to get your suggestions in

Of late, I've been sorta stuck on the Lady. As it turns out, cloth is really hard to sculpt, and my difficulty in producing a product that I liked really clouded my perception of the model as a whole. Going back to her, I added a little more detail to her robes, and then basically covered her in bits and things I think I'm most proud of the seals I sculpted on her front to fill a blank space. Though not great, they work as a proof of concept and look decent to boot.

What's that? Yes, you there in the back. What now? More pics? You got it!


The more I look at them, the more I like the seals, which is a rare phenomenon for my sculpting.


I added a little scope or lens thing to her laspistol and added some gear to bulk out her waist.


Again, more stuff around her waist and some backpack detailing.

Let me know what you think. I'd really love some feedback on her. She seems just almost done, but I'm afraid to go to far.


Also, extra special bonus!
I just started working on a chaotic bodyguard for the Saint and his warband. It's really really rough now, but It's enough to get the idea, I think.



He'll be getting some more armor on his right arm, and detail scattered throughout.


I've got five final projects to get done for this week or next, so I'll probably be avoiding those by sculpting and painting

Always eager to hear your thoughts,

J

looking mighty fine buddy. love the odds and ends on the lady im no gs genius but i think what skill is done is excuted quite well. might actually have to pick some up and give it a go when i start my stuff up.

Thanks, mate. I'm also pretty pleased with the bits n' bobs on the lady. They've pretty much saved a project that I thought lost and had almost given up on. I'm really surprised and flattered that you've taken to the GS work, but looking back on it, it looks better than I thought it would. Also, it looks a helluva lot better with a little paint on it

Speaking of, I've been sorta swamped with work recently, a final project in five of six classes They've let up now, so it's on to graduation and tons of time painting

ten points for prime for gettin his edumacation dun seriously congrats.

yea im terrified of the stuff i keep reading that it is best to do it in small batches i just dont want to pay for the gw stuff. i also heard kneadnite is good too have you ever used that stuff?

Too many damn years of book learning finally paying off No, it'll be really nice to get done, enjoy the summer and then head off to university. It should be fun, but packing up and moving cross-country has me a little worried. Hah, we'll see how it goes!

GS is really scary, but if you work in layers, it keeps your fingerprints out of it. If you poke around online, you can buy the stuff by the pound. I've only ever used green stuff, though. I've heard that some people swear by brown stuff, miliput, or kneadnite as you mentioned. I think it would be good to give it a try, but I still have a lot of GS left, and I'm a little hesitant to try out some other medium. Of course, I don't really know much about the other mediums, so they're worth a try.

hey thanks for the advice at any rate prime. yea cross country moves suck ass. ill let you know how my adventure goes either way.

Heyo!

I've got some of the colors blocked out for both the Lady and the new mutant, but need to take pics Look forward to them!

I've been roped into some Necromunda with a group of friends, and have decided upon an admech gang. We'll be using the inquisimunda ruleset, here, supplemented with the community rules, here. We'll have a total of five gangs to start out with, and more may add in, so it's a good sized group. We've got a chaos coven, probably tzeentch, a genestealer cult, an imperial salvage team, and a good old-fashioned underhive gang, Orlocks, I think. Because the modeling will take up a fair amount of time, and because some of the characters might find their way into our inquisitor games, I'd figure I'd post this stuff here, too.


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The campaign is set upon a space hulk that has been colonized by a small group of humans after its clensing several years earlier. The settlement grew out of the salvage operation that followed the space marine purge of the hulk, Baptism of Fear. Now, several hundred years later, the hulk is being used as a massive freighter, shipping thousands of megatons of goods from planet to planet, as well as transporting pilgrams and missionaries along pilgrimage routes, dropping them off at holy sites along with cargo. The many members of the original salvage crew stayed upon the hulk, eventually raising families along with the first crew to pilot the hulk in millennia. The pilgrams and other passengers contributed to the population's growth, and after many years, the hulk boasts a permanent population of several million, rivaling that of a small imperial hive.

By nature, space hulks are gigantic and convoluted structures, formed of hundreds or even thousands of ships fused together by the fickle tides of the warp. Try as they might, humanity's finest warriors, the space marines, could not completely cleanse the Baptism of Fear. After years of quiet, the things that remain in the bowels of the hulk have begun to stir once again, stretching their malign tendrils up into the humanity residing above....

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The Adeptus Mechanicus sent a contingent of techpriests to supervise the original salvage operation, and to recover what technology they could themselves. These first adepts remained upon the hulk, establishing a research outpost within the Baptism of Fear. The conclave grew with the settlement, producing the basic goods needed by the colonists. The outpost finally drew attention from Mars when an intrepid adept stumbled upon the remains of an ancient forgeship. Hoping to discover new STC plans or other archaeotech, swarms of new adepts arrived upon the Baptism Though only unusable fragments of STC's were discovered, the manufacturing capability of Mechanicus outpost Δ18-33 was increased by several orders of magnitude. The once-adventurous explorators turned wholeheartedly to the construction of tanks, guns, ammunition, and whatever else was needed on the planets frequented by the hulk. Because no remarkable find was made upon the Baptism, the attention of the Mechanicum shifted away from the hulk, and Δ18-33 went back to being a little backwater research station and forge.

After nearly half a millennia, a young boy, Orionus Rei was born to two menial parents working within Δ18-33. The boy was taken, as is custom, to the seminary established with the first wave of adepts for his education. He spent his childhood learning the basic workings of the holy machines, of holy chants to the Omnissiah, and of the exploits of the first explorators to arrive on the hulk. Like every young student before him, he became enamored with the tales of Magus Asa Bei, Adept Leonus, and of Enginseer Caius' discovery of the Forge. After showing promise in art of weapon crafting, Orionus was inducted into the Cult Mechanicus. After years of study and work, Magos Rei began to grow restless of constantly trying to improve upon the plasma channels of the Mk XIX generator, or of searching for the secret to making Magos Oren's revolutionary auto-cycler functional. Before any of his superiors could protest, Orionus gathered his subordinates and set off into the shifting depths of the Baptism of Fear.


Anyways, here's the list I'm starting with, led by Orionus himself.



tl;dr

I'd love to get some feedback on the list (or the fluff, if you like), as I haven't ever played necromunda before. I'm excited to get playing over the summer. Good Night, everyone!

good looking gang so far. cant wait to see it all prettied up.

will you be posting the other gangs hear as well or do they have their own accounts and what not. personally i'd like to see all of the gangs. at any rate keep it up and cant wait to see more!

Thanks! I'm the only member of the group who posts on here (others may read, so hi guys!), so it looks like I'll be posting all that stuff here, if you're interested. I'll keep you posted

Cool fluff. How come some of your guys have skills already? Is your gang made with the AM explorator rules from the inquisimunda rules? My brother is running a necromunda gang using those rules and it looks pretty different. Good luck with your campaign, are you using any other custom rules?

Glad you liked the fluff Some of the models have gotten skills from their first round of experience rolls. I really have no idea what I'm doing, so it could very well be wrong As for custom rules, we'll almost certainly come up with some along the way, as happens quite a lot in our campaigns. Do you have any suggestions?

Well it looks like your leader has a lot of upgrades, I don't think that can be right! You'd have to play about 5 games at least just to get those 3 skills. He starts off at 60+D6 xp, but doesn't have any skills/increased stats until he goes up to the next level.

As for custom rules I can help I think. We use all Anthony Case's stuff, including the skills.pdf and weapons.pdf which are pretty significant changes over the rulebook. I have an extended rare trade and outlaw trade chart I made that includes all the extra kit if you want a copy?

So you don't roll any skills and stuff until you go up an experience bracket? Hmm, I suppose that makes sense, but I'm going to miss his T/W 4...

Anthony Case's stuff seems pretty solid, but what do I know I'd love a copy of the trade charts. Could prove useful during the campaign! Thanks

yeah sorry, no rolling until you go up for the first time, everyone starts out pretty weak.

Here's the rare trade we use:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4966868/Outlaw%20Trade.pdf
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4966868/Rare%20Trade.pdf

This has all the items mentioned in the additional pdfs on Anthony's site (otherwise there is no way to get hold of them). It doesn't have all the Inquisimunda items but we use those very sparingly.

Great, thanks for the trade charts. The list (for those interested) has been revised to the following, as it should be I've heard of necromunda's reputation for being a meatgrinder for characters, but after generating a roster and taking a closer look at the rules, I see the truth in the rumors I think I'll be able to get a game in today with my friend's genestealer cult, so I'll let you know how that goes!



In other news, my graduation is tomorrow, which is really exciting. We're getting the entire family together for a dinner, I've got parties to go to, the whole nine yards

Cheers!

J

Yakromunda is really good for making rosters, you can update it to have custom classes like enginseer and other custom rules without too much difficulty. It'll keep track of everything like letting you know when you are meant to roll for upgrades.

You've picked a tricky project to do for your first gang but it ought to be a lot of fun. When we were trying to adapt Inquisimunda rosters for Necro we tried to limit access to items that a house gang couldn't get so it wasn't unfair on people who want to play regular old Orlocks. For example, Inquisimunda gangs can all take armour and special ammunition while Necromunda gangs can't which might be considered unfair. To be honest, armour sucks in Necro anyway, I would ditch it all.

Your list doesn't have any heavy weapons? Admech can take up to 11 in Inquisimunda I think... we limited this to 2 to be fairer. I would try and get a heavy stubber, they are both amazing and really good fun to use.

If you count Menial as juves (can't work territory) and Enginseers as heavys (can't work territory) then you ought to try for 5 gangers that can work territory because you start with 5 and it is good to be able to work them all.

I've checked out yakromunda, but have yet to enter the roster. Turns out my gaming mate is busy today, so I'll have some extra time this evening to do that.

I think that everyone in our group is playing at least some flavor of inquisimunda gang, so I'm praying that it balances out ok. Of course, I've been careful to not take a whole bunch of ridiculous stuff on the roster. Once again, I really have no idea what I'm doing, so I'll surrender to a higher judgement. As for the armor, I guess I'll take your word for it, the points will be nice.

I never actually gave conscious thought to the inclusion of heavy weapons. I was thinking about taking a praetorian or a gun servitor, but I might drop the close combat enginseer for a heavy.

On that note, yes, I have been considering enginseers/secutors as heavies and menials as juves. With the points taken out of armor, and with some trimming, I think I might be able to cram in another ganger....

The thing is, unless you buy a heavy weapon at gang creation you are quite unlikely to get one for ages, if ever. You tend to spend all your money replacing losses. Heavy Stubbers are a bargain for the first half of a campaign (until lots of people get T4 and multiple wounds, then you need a heavy bolter). For value they are the best weapon in the game I reckon, and just good fun (sustained fire dice are always fun). I really miss them with my gang. Plus if you get one early you can start getting xp on your heavy.

Armour is sometimes ok, but a lot of weapons will have -1 save and that negates cheap armour. And heavier armour is meant to be a rare trade item rather than available to every gang.

By the way if you are interested in Necromunda I really love this thread: http://www.40konline.com/index.php?topic=215599.0 - it's a great read and has some tactics advice in there too.

Yeah, the heavy stubber makes sense when you put it like that. I think that I might just run one of the house gangs as a counts-as admech group. It certainly eliminates a lot of the wackiness, and should streamline the process, I'd miss out on the exotic wargear and stuff that fits so well with an admech group, but that's the price, I guess.

Of course, if I do chose a house list, I have no idea which list to use. Pitslaves make sense in a way, with implants acting as...implants, the downside is that they are purely combat, and I'm leaning towards balance. Van Saar makes sense with the techno, but they seem pretty skewed towards shooting, so also not good. Orlocks seem like a fit, maybe?

Pitslaves aren't a house gang, they are Outlaws and are pretty wacky themselves. Van Saar is your best bet I'd say, all house gangs will have some combat elements and some shooting, though Van Saar do tend towards shooting it's true. Orlocks are a pretty great all round gang.

I don't think you would have much trouble with your admech gang though, I don't want to put you off. Anthony Case's Spire Brat Pack rules might work too (all about gear), never tried them myself.

I think I'll probably stick to just the admech rules for this one. It work out fine 'cuz I've always wanted to start an Escher gang anyways

All right! Here's my friends preliminary genestealer cult list. Feedback would be awesome, as usual.

Magos: healing hands, embolden, precognition, shotgun (manstopper), chainsword
Neophyte: third arm, heavy stubber, sword
Neophyte: tentacle, flamer, sword
Neophyte: extra arm, evicerator, autopistol
Brood Brother: lasgun
Brood Brother: lasgun
Brood Brother: shotgun
Brood Brother: shotgun
Brood Brother: sword, autopistol
Brood Brother: sword, autopistol
Initiate: autopistol
Initiate: autopistol

The idea is that the two lasgunners babysit the stubber heavy, whilst a shotgun, sword/autopistol, and autopistol accompany the flamer and the evicerator. The leader accompanies a group as needed, providing healing support with healing hands and allowing early pinning recovery with embolden.

Should be pretty difficult to take down

Don't they come with a "free" knife at creation? Well it looks good i just didn't know that Genestealer cults could get mutations. Or will this be a fluff reasoning either way I'd like to see so maybe i can glean some knowledge on how to do so crazy stuff.

Yes, everything comes with a free knife, which is why I didn't bother including it. The neophyte class, which is analogous to a heavy, (just that you can get four of them ) must take a mutation, but they cost -5 credits. The cult should be murder to play against. With quite a few models and awesome combat potential, coupled with magos' ability to redeploy d3 models after deployment, and then the fact that he ended up rolling a set of vents for territory....brutal.

yikes sounds like the ad mech have a tough time ahead of them. you got some good rules too so dont worry