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Orks are good and they are even better because they are the opposite of most armies meta game. I play vanilla marines and I'm constantly having to remind myself to take anti hoard in my tourney lists because every now and then an Ork player shows up but 90% of my meta I encounter is meq and I'd like the 85 points from my dakka pred to buff some other units.

Also I think that a lot of people think they can just shoot the mob down really what you need to do is shoot them down to numbers where certain units (like assault terms) can then tar pit them, or other combat specialists can win combat and then cut them down (again taking advantage of their inititive