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Not to cause hate, but i really don't like Tzeentch, To me he comes off as one of these...
I dunno where the disconnect is for me, but he is just an eccentric bird to me. I know he is a plotter or great evils and a shifter of ways and even in 40k games and lore he seems to attract the most attention... but he is just the god i hate most and give no respect to unless i see his model painted.
For me it is a close tie between Slaanesh and Khorne but the sheboys win out. Mostly it's because of the symbolism of endless sacrifice within life that most humanity and other races go through to cope with the grimdark of the 41st milenium. Imagining a space marine who no longer is able to see his friends, family or be who he was. He endures centuries of pain and self sacrifice only to be offered one of the most intoxicating rewards known to existence as his reward. To me the sway of Slaanesh is the easiest to fall to and the longest lasting.
Khorne because... well Damn son! He sticks to his morales he is basically the right winged god of chaos preaching tradition and high demon values lol. You can't play 40k and not respect khorne in some fashion !
Nurgle is close to them as well but just doesn't make the cut. I find it interesting that he comes off as more a savior of life preventing death and nurturing the dying on a battle field with promises of nothing but "another chance". My problem with nurgle is he as a figure is just fugly and seems like he shouldn't really have a way to defend himself well at all despite being able to do so. I dunno just his branch of chaos looks a little inept and derpy to me. I tottally love them fluff and gameplay but ... well they are just to fugly only reason I wouldn't say he ties i guess
Again this wasn't to hate on anyone or any god,
1. Slaanesh
2. Khorne
3. Nurgle
4 Tzeentch
" I don't lead da Waagh I build it! " - Big-Mek Wurrzog
Every daemon of a specific god is a segment of his power given form and purpose. They can be reclaimed by the God at any time. They have their own personalities, but are hardly godlike in power.
The Gods themselves are distinct personalities and are miles above any of their creations in power. Skarbrand's story illustrates this.
The Ork Gods - Gork and Mork are ANYTHING but shattered. They are officially Shatterproof (TM) as not even the other gods are any threat to them.
There are 2 unshattered Eldar gods out there too. The Laughing god is whole, and Isha is Nurgle's Tastetester, but is still intact (more or less).
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
Every daemon of a specific god is a segment of his power given form and purpose. They can be reclaimed by the God at any time. They have their own personalities, but are hardly godlike in power.
The Gods themselves are distinct personalities and are miles above any of their creations in power. Skarbrand's story illustrates this.
The Ork Gods - Gork and Mork are ANYTHING but shattered. They are officially Shatterproof (TM) as not even the other gods are any threat to them.
There are 2 unshattered Eldar gods out there too. The Laughing god is whole, and Isha is Nurgle's Tastetester, but is still intact (more or less).
Still demons make nice avatars, like the Eldar avatar or the C'tan splinter already do....
The ork deities.. would be shattered by orks, like the others have been by their own followers. Shatterproof vs orks?
Was just an idea.. .....plus...chaos isn't known for discipline and could overdo it and rip itself apart....in their struggle for N°1.
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The orks are all 100 % committed to Gork and Mork, who are just deific orks turned up to 11 million. They have no reason to shatter them, as they all think like them anyway
The nearest you can get is old EPIC fluff that said that when a new gargant was activated it was blessed with a little of Gork or Mork's power. You could buy Gork and Mork heads for them, with different effects IIRC.
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
A tie between Slaanesh and Tzeentch, since to fall to them is to constantly erode your own morals, all the time telling yourself, this is the last time. So much subtler than 'Join me or that cancer I just gave you will kill you' or 'BLOOOOOOOOOOD!'
Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it.
Slaanesh all the way. Whats the point in living without pleasure. pleasure is the point of existence. Beauty and fulfillment.
That is philosophically like saying sugar is the point of food. Whether life has purpose or not is a different discussion. In order to have purpose, life in general must have a "purposer." Otherwise it simply is, and has no intrinsic meaning.
On topic, Nurgle is a the cuddly loveable rotting corpse godfather i never had
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I took my wife thru the BRB for fantasy and 40k, the first thing she said was "AWESOME"... codex: Chaos Daemons Nurgle..... to all those who says God aint real....
shadowsnip wrote:it worked for me.
On topic, Nurgle is a the cuddly loveable rotting corpse godfather i never had
Well....he is. I mean remove the disease and do we really have that bad of a dude? I mean he makes his followers live longer...and the kill people....how cool is that!!
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One of the codexes/army books mentions how Slaanesh represents extremes of all emotion/desire and each of the other gods represents an extreme that he prefers. Slaanesh is still in his infancy, relatively, and when he comes to full power it is believed he will consume the other three. Yeah, pretty sure that makes him the greatest. Suck it, Khorne.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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timetowaste85 wrote:One of the codexes/army books mentions how Slaanesh represents extremes of all emotion/desire and each of the other gods represents an extreme that he prefers. Slaanesh is still in his infancy, relatively, and when he comes to full power it is believed he will consume the other three. Yeah, pretty sure that makes him the greatest. Suck it, Khorne.
Do you remember which? Sounds like it would be a good read.
Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it.
I rank them:
KHORNE! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Slaanesh. Because Slaanesh deals with the sexy stuff.
Tzeentch. Don't really have much love for the fate god, but I like Tzeentch more than
Nurgle. I care for the rot guy even less.
The Kasrkin were just men. It made their actions all the more astonishing. Six white blurs, they fell upon the cultists, lasguns barking at close range. They wasted no shots. One shot, one kill. - Eisenhorn: Malleus
Wasnt there a fifth chaos god at some point that gw had to get rid of for copyright reasons, or something like that? Anyways, iirc, this chaos god was all about random destruction. No focus on sickness, scheming, or extremes of sensation (its not just pleasure by the way, it's also about extremes of pain, not really worth the trade off imho), or blood letting, no focus on anything really. Just pure chaos. Wish I could remember this gods name.
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
end up in Nurgle's clutches and he uses you as a loofah.
Phiasco II wrote:Wasnt there a fifth chaos god at some point that gw had to get rid of for copyright reasons, or something like that? Anyways, iirc, this chaos god was all about random destruction. No focus on sickness, scheming, or extremes of sensation (its not just pleasure by the way, it's also about extremes of pain, not really worth the trade off imho), or blood letting, no focus on anything really. Just pure chaos. Wish I could remember this gods name.
malal
Originally Posted by ryng_sting
If neither the Eldar, the Emperor, and the Chaos god Tzeentch can predict the future with 100% certainty...
Phiasco II wrote:Wasnt there a fifth chaos god at some point that gw had to get rid of for copyright reasons, or something like that? Anyways, iirc, this chaos god was all about random destruction. No focus on sickness, scheming, or extremes of sensation (its not just pleasure by the way, it's also about extremes of pain, not really worth the trade off imho), or blood letting, no focus on anything really. Just pure chaos. Wish I could remember this gods name.
malal
I thought his fluff was altered before he was erased to basically feed off of the disbelief of people. Or it may have been fear (and only fear, which is actually quite the powerful 'domain' if you will)
Malice is in current fluff as a minor god. Pretty much the same as good old Malal but smaller and nowhere near as powerful though the rest of chaos is still pretty wary of him. Malice is how GW decided to appease those who miss Malal, but he and his followers (Sons of Malice) could still do with some attention worthy of a God (as minor as he may be) as the other gods (Gork and Mork, The Emperor, The Big 4, Khaine, Isha, The Laughing God, The C'tan, etc.) do.
Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB
Malal, thanks guys, that was the one. Op, make Malal a choice and I'd vote for him.
The Emperor Protects _______________________________________
Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
end up in Nurgle's clutches and he uses you as a loofah.
If I remember correctly, the sons of Malice only require one more champion before they can summon Malice himself, wreaking untold horror unto the Galaxy!
What's that? They just want to retake their homeworld?! That's it? Oh well, them's the breaks.
There is no Chaos God of fear, as a primary aspect of its portfolio and area of influence. Necoho was the Chaos God of Unbelief (a minor Chaos God from WHFRP) while Zuvassin was the Undoer, a minor Chaos God that is, basically, the embodiment of Murphy's Law.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
moom241 wrote:If I remember correctly, the sons of Malice only require one more champion before they can summon Malice himself, wreaking untold horror unto the Galaxy!
What's that? They just want to retake their homeworld?! That's it? Oh well, them's the breaks.
(That's the fluff at last I checked)
Last time I checked, they already got their one more champion and had just summoned Malice into existence. Everyone is officially fethed. lol
Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB