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Ok, here is a video of the bits before during and after the spray. These bitz are NOS and are not coated in anything. Hope this clears things up and shows what has happened here. After the spraying, the bitz were somewhat soft and very pliable.

I could not find a way to put the video on without having to download it. Sorry.

Have you contacted Army painter yet?

I have not contacted them yet, because my FLGS said to bring it in to the store and let him see for himself. Then he would contact Army painter.


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Is it wierd how its craking?

Dude, watching that video with the before/after... look at the large thick sadness pile of white dried paint? It looks like you unloaded the paint on the model with a bucket of house paint. THIN THIN THIN brief layers while spraying. Too much primer on your model can very easily give the appearance of cracking/melting. Strip those bad boys down to no paint. I guarentee that's the problem. Hold the spray paint can like 10-12 inches away from the target and BRIEFLY pass the stream over the model. Not too close, not too long.

Actualy, what you see is my standerd place for primering all of my minis. All of my 2500pts of nids have been sprayed their, and not one of them have had this problem. I did as you said when I sprayed these pieces. Alot of primer would not MELT and slide of a mini. Look at the pics of after the spraying. Gray is showing throught.

Man, I'm telling you, it looks like you just sprayed way too much on there :\ Strip one of those guys down if for nothing else to satisfy my curiosity!

Geting some striper tomorrow, will post some pics then.

Ok sweet, but also make sure the stripper you use is made for stripping from plastics, some strippers are intended for the metal units

Going to use Simple Green.

Converge570 wrote:Dude, watching that video with the before/after... look at the large thick sadness pile of white dried paint? It looks like you unloaded the paint on the model with a bucket of house paint. THIN THIN THIN brief layers while spraying. Too much primer on your model can very easily give the appearance of cracking/melting. Strip those bad boys down to no paint. I guarentee that's the problem. Hold the spray paint can like 10-12 inches away from the target and BRIEFLY pass the stream over the model. Not too close, not too long.

Even if he did put a bucket load of paint on them it shouldn't make them soft and malleable. Notice how the end of the talon used to be sharp and pointy; and now it looks blunt?

Phyrexia wrote:

Converge570 wrote:Dude, watching that video with the before/after... look at the large thick sadness pile of white dried paint? It looks like you unloaded the paint on the model with a bucket of house paint. THIN THIN THIN brief layers while spraying. Too much primer on your model can very easily give the appearance of cracking/melting. Strip those bad boys down to no paint. I guarentee that's the problem. Hold the spray paint can like 10-12 inches away from the target and BRIEFLY pass the stream over the model. Not too close, not too long.

Even if he did put a bucket load of paint on them it shouldn't make them soft and malleable. Notice how the end of the talon used to be sharp and pointy; and now it looks blunt?

Thank You!

It looks like it was snapped off. If it melted off it wouldnt just melt off at such an extreme angle. It would gradually melt from the outside of the mini inward, thinning the point, not just breaking off at a 90 degree angle.

Ok, I am going to prove this some way or another. I will send this can to my FLGS and he said that if it does what im saying, he said he would post here and prove it to you guys.

Converge570 wrote:It looks like it was snapped off. If it melted off it wouldnt just melt off at such an extreme angle. It would gradually melt from the outside of the mini inward, thinning the point, not just breaking off at a 90 degree angle.

It looks like it was malleable/soft enough to snap off, which is exactly the point. It shouldn't do that.

Phyrexia wrote:

Converge570 wrote:It looks like it was snapped off. If it melted off it wouldnt just melt off at such an extreme angle. It would gradually melt from the outside of the mini inward, thinning the point, not just breaking off at a 90 degree angle.

It looks like it was malleable/soft enough to snap off, which is exactly the point. It shouldn't do that.

Thank you once again. When I can bend the leg of a Space marine, There is somthing wrong.

Imperial Renegade, look, people are interpreting based on the objective evidence presented. This is not an attack on you. In fact, this is exactly what you will encounter if you are the first reporter when you contact Army Builder.

Instead of responding that no one believes you, remember again- extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What you are reporting is extraordinary, and the evidence is not showing what you are describing.

I agree that the crackle effect is weird, but honestly, it could be explained by too thick of a coat. Personally I do not use army painter primer because I found it dispensed in such a way that it was very difficult to hit that sweet spot of fully coated without crossing in to too much, thus gunked up.

You could just simply call Army Builder. If they have had other reports, this is a slam dunk. It is possible they have already figured it all out. If you are the first to report, then you will probably need to go through the process to document before and after.

Howard A Treesong wrote:They were painted in something else first? That's probably your problem, the paints have reacted with each other. You need to strip the figures or know the base coat is safe with the next layer of paint.

I agree did types of paint will chemically react with one another and do all kinds of crazy stuff

I did not mean to sound mean or agrivated. I am trying to say what has happend and were the fault is. I have made the video, and primered other models with other batches of Army Painter Primer. Not one of my 147 models have craked, melted, or bubled on any of my models.

Wow, sorry to hear that man, those SM's are really cool looking. Maybe the paints were internally hotter than it seemed?

OOOOOOKKKKKKKKKK.............................I am really sorry for all who I might have accused/been rude too. I took my can to the FLGS and he sprayed one of his minis........................it was fine, He said it put it on to thick........I did. He showed me how to spray them, and they were fine. Im really sorry again. Thanks for all of your help.


IR

Imperial Renegade wrote:OOOOOOKKKKKKKKKK.............................I am really sorry for all who I might have accused/been rude too. I took my can to the FLGS and he sprayed one of his minis........................it was fine, He said it put it on to thick........I did. He showed me how to spray them, and they were fine. Im really sorry again. Thanks for all of your help.


IR

No Problem!

Ive just got say Renegade, ive been folowing the thread I and was impressed with the way you approached things and handled all the criticisms and comments.
We learn best from our mistakes.

I had a similar problem with army painter white. I found it to not cover well and it crack a lot after drying. Amry painter red on the other hand covers very well.

I really can't believe all it was was spraying too much. You'd think that would be the first thing you'd try an adjust. But at least you learned something.

spiraleddie wrote:Ive just got say Renegade, ive been folowing the thread I and was impressed with the way you approached things and handled all the criticisms and comments.
We learn best from our mistakes.

qft

Hi all, I have a similar problem, i have been dipping my space wolves in strong tone and had no problems.
Having said that i have just dipped my grey knights and have come up against a melting problem, The models dont seem to melt on the bodies, Only on the spears and swords. The tin was half full so when i dipped it the spears/sword were touching the side of the tin and so when i pulled out the mini they were bent, almost like the dip had softened the plastic.

Both sw and gk have been used with army painter primers, Wolf grey and the silver, (i forget what its called). Any insight would be great as I cant think of a reason, the result is great but i just dont wanna ruin any of my minis

Necro Thread! You might have better luck getting your question answered by starting your own thread.

oh, and welcome to Dakka!