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hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:If you mean as in there are more of them yes.
But the definition of a minority group....

Well read this. to big to paste
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/384500/minority
In essence you dont need too be a numaerical minority to be one.

It should be noted that you're quoting the "sociology" definition of minority. Sociologists basically invented the victimization cottage industry, so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

minority, a culturally, ethnically, or racially distinct group that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group.

Yay, I'm a minority!

Sociologists didnt invent it. They just expsosed it.
Also what type of victim are you?

biccat is a victim of all of us Liberals.

alarmingrick wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:If you mean as in there are more of them yes.
But the definition of a minority group....

Well read this. to big to paste
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/384500/minority
In essence you dont need too be a numaerical minority to be one.

It should be noted that you're quoting the "sociology" definition of minority. Sociologists basically invented the victimization cottage industry, so anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

minority, a culturally, ethnically, or racially distinct group that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group.

Yay, I'm a minority!

Sociologists didnt invent it. They just expsosed it.
Also what type of victim are you?

biccat is a victim of all of us Liberals.

Well good. Let the republican get a taste of what their policies have done to others.

Frazzled wrote:I'm a minority ten times over. I'm the victim! Give me money!

You can't have any of my money, it's my right as a minority to this money. Get it from someone in the majority. Like hotsauceman.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Sociologists didnt invent it. They just expsosed it.

You misspelled "turned the idea on its head and abused it to the point where it bears no particular relevance to the original concept." But I forgive you, those letters are like right next to each other.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

If you go by the definition i gave then yes. Typically minorities are victims.
It could be said like this
The numerical minority with all the power is a majority.

hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

If you go by the definition i gave then yes. Typically minorities are victims.
It could be said like this
The numerical minority with all the power is a majority.

So under this definition then the "EVIL 1%" are not only not evil, but, being one of the smallest minorities, ia one of the most victimized. Government needs to step in and correct this outrage!

Oh snap!

Frazzled wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

If you go by the definition i gave then yes. Typically minorities are victims.
It could be said like this
The numerical minority with all the power is a majority.

So under this definition then the "EVIL 1%" are not only not evil, but, being one of the smallest minorities, ia one of the most victimized. Government needs to step in and correct this outrage!

Welll.... no, because he stated that "minorities with all the power" are majorities. In other words, the so-called 1% who supposedly have all the power.
At least, I think that's what he's going for.

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

If you go by the definition i gave then yes. Typically minorities are victims.
It could be said like this
The numerical minority with all the power is a majority.

So under this definition then the "EVIL 1%" are not only not evil, but, being one of the smallest minorities, ia one of the most victimized. Government needs to step in and correct this outrage!

Welll.... no, because he stated that "minorities with all the power" are majorities. In other words, the so-called 1% who supposedly have all the power.
At least, I think that's what he's going for.

Power is a metaphysical concept. As that 1% can be easily descriminated against by well, everyone, because they are only 1% (outvoted, out elected...etc.etc.) then they truly have no power. Once again, the government must DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS POTENTIAL OPPRESSION!

The derp is strong in this thread.

Scrabb wrote:The derp is strong in this thread.

Frazzled wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:

biccat wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Also what type of victim are you?

I wasn't aware that I am also a victim. Does minority status also convey victimhood?

If you go by the definition i gave then yes. Typically minorities are victims.
It could be said like this
The numerical minority with all the power is a majority.

So under this definition then the "EVIL 1%" are not only not evil, but, being one of the smallest minorities, ia one of the most victimized. Government needs to step in and correct this outrage!

Welll.... no, because he stated that "minorities with all the power" are majorities. In other words, the so-called 1% who supposedly have all the power.
At least, I think that's what he's going for.

Power is a metaphysical concept. As that 1% can be easily descriminated against by well, everyone, because they are only 1% (outvoted, out elected...etc.etc.) then they truly have no power. Once again, the government must DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS POTENTIAL OPPRESSION!

Well, there you go then. Definition needs redefining.

Frazzled wrote:

Scrabb wrote:The derp is strong in this thread.

I get the horrible idea that I'm missing out on a wiener dog pic.

Maybe. (I can't actually see the pics I post at work).

alarmingrick wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Which post? There's been a few.

From Melissia's previous post:

"But the argument that, to continue the previous example, heterosexuals are "victimzed" by homosexuals wanting to marry is stupid and without any logical merit."

There you go Frazz. That one.

Yes, that one.

I'm still waiting.

A gay man is free to marry any woman he wants!

Melissia wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Which post? There's been a few.

From Melissia's previous post:

"But the argument that, to continue the previous example, heterosexuals are "victimzed" by homosexuals wanting to marry is stupid and without any logical merit."

There you go Frazz. That one.

Yes, that one.

I'm still waiting.

Heterosexuals as a block, no. Heterosexuals that believe marriage is between a man and a woman...yes.
Further, as this group of hetero's are a minority of hetero's then again, we're dealing with minority oppression.
Further, as a majority of US citizenry may be in favor, its another clear case of minority oppression. Government must stop this outrage!

Frazzled wrote:Heterosexuals as a block, no. Heterosexuals that believe marriage is between a man and a woman...yes.

That is stupid logic; not even logic really, it's nothing more than a blaise and blatant attempt at manipulating statistics to prove a point. And even WITH this blatantly stupid attempt to sketch and skew statistics to the limit, even then, allowing homosexual marriage does not oppress that subgroup any more than freedom of religion oppresses Christians (or Muslims if you prefer) because they can't legally stone people to death for not being Christians (or Muslims).

No, just no.

Frazzled wrote:Power is a metaphysical concept. As that 1% can be easily descriminated against by well, everyone, because they are only 1% (outvoted, out elected...etc.etc.) then they truly have no power. Once again, the government must DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS POTENTIAL OPPRESSION!

The 1% obviously has all the power, otherwise they wouldn't be bad guys. So therefore the 1% is actually a majority. In fact, I think they would be a supermajority, especially given how few of them there are. In contrast, the 99% who have the power to impose their political will on the 1% without their consent are actually in the minority.

Homosexuals have, at least in a few states, overcome opposition to gay marriage by political will. So this group of maybe 1% has political strength over same-sex marriage opponents (only gays count for this group because without any homosexuals there wouldn't be any need for same-sex marriage). Ergo, homosexuals, despite being only about 1% of the population, actually enjoy majority status in some states.

Is this the "1%" the OWS crowd was protesting? I'm going to assume so. This may, possibly, mean that OWS supporters are homophobes, or heterophiles. Possibly homonyms.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Heterosexuals as a block, no. Heterosexuals that believe marriage is between a man and a woman...yes.

That is stupid logic; not even logic really, it's nothing more than a blaise and blatant attempt at manipulating statistics to prove a point. And even WITH this blatantly stupid attempt to sketch and skew statistics to the limit, even then, allowing homosexual marriage does not oppress that subgroup any more than freedom of religion oppresses Christians because they can't legally stone people to death for not being Christians.

No, just no.

See, now you're trying to oppress me. As a neaderthal - American I am a true minority, and now you're trying to oppress me for responding with an example to your question. Help! Help! I'm being Oppressed! Everyone witness the violence inherent in the sytem!

OT but the Washington bill passed the Washington state senate. Democracy - hurray!

Frazzled wrote:See, now you're trying to oppress me. As a neaderthal - American I am a true minority, and now you're trying to oppress me for responding with an example to your question. Help! Help! I'm being Oppressed! Everyone witness the violence inherent in the sytem!

Jokes and Monty Python references don't hide logical ineptitude, Fraz

No matter how much you attempt to mock my point, it still stands.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:See, now you're trying to oppress me. As a neaderthal - American I am a true minority, and now you're trying to oppress me for responding with an example to your question. Help! Help! I'm being Oppressed! Everyone witness the violence inherent in the sytem!

Jokes and Monty Python references don't hide logical ineptitude, Fraz

No matter how much you attempt to mock my point, it still stands.

Hey its as logical as any other nonsense on this thread.

Since I am doing movie quotes: "at last my arm is complete." From what Burton movie? What other version starred Angela " you Hitler!" Landsbury ?

Frazzled wrote:Hey its as logical as any other nonsense on this thread.

The main source of nonsense thus far in this thread is the garbage that you spew out in to it.

So... no.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Hey its as logical as any other nonsense on this thread.

The main source of nonsense thus far in this thread is the garbage that you spew out in to it.

So... no.

Ooooh, a few boos from the peanut gallery.
-hah another quote!

I think your list slamming republicans for pretty much everything since the death of the dino kind of started that.

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:See, now you're trying to oppress me. As a neaderthal - American I am a true minority, and now you're trying to oppress me for responding with an example to your question. Help! Help! I'm being Oppressed! Everyone witness the violence inherent in the sytem!

Jokes and Monty Python references don't hide logical ineptitude, Fraz

And over the top hostility does, apparently?

Monster Rain wrote:

Melissia wrote:

Frazzled wrote:See, now you're trying to oppress me. As a neaderthal - American I am a true minority, and now you're trying to oppress me for responding with an example to your question. Help! Help! I'm being Oppressed! Everyone witness the violence inherent in the sytem!

Jokes and Monty Python references don't hide logical ineptitude, Fraz

And over the top hostility does, apparently?

Apparently. But we've moved into the "sorry you can't post unless you quote an obscure movie quote that Frazzled knows of" phase.
frankly its all "creatures from the id!"

Frazzled wrote:Apparently. But we've moved into the "sorry you can't post unless you quote an obscure movie quote that Frazzled knows of" phase.

When in Rome...

If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!

Frazzled wrote:I think your list slamming republicans for pretty much everything since the death of the dino kind of started that.

There is no list made by me which slams republicans "for pretty much everything since the death of the dino".

You are making this up.

Monster Rain wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Apparently. But we've moved into the "sorry you can't post unless you quote an obscure movie quote that Frazzled knows of" phase.

When in Rome...

If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!

Good one! where?

Time Bandits.

An unappreciated classic, IMHO.

As a refresher:
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on immigration issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on tax issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on sexuality issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on gun control issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on minority rights issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on race issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on religious rights issues.
The Republican Party plays the victim complex card on foreign policy issues.



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Monster Rain wrote:Time Bandits.

An unappreciated classic, IMHO.

that was a trip.