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KingCracker wrote:Bingo, its a hate fest. I remember on this very board, when it was announced that Heath was going to play the Joker. SO MANY PEOPLE were so pissed and talking how terrible the movie was going to be. And now, hes arguably the best thing to happen to the Joker.
"Argueably" is the right way to put it. I'll not argue that he played the part well, or that he didn't do the 'scary psyco' part well. What Ledger lacked was the zany humor that was always the Joker's stock and trade. Ledger's Joker was grimdark, not bat insane. Nicholson, on the other hand, nailed both sides of it perfectly.
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KingCracker wrote:Bingo, its a hate fest. I remember on this very board, when it was announced that Heath was going to play the Joker. SO MANY PEOPLE were so pissed and talking how terrible the movie was going to be. And now, hes arguably the best thing to happen to the Joker.
"Argueably" is the right way to put it. I'll not argue that he played the part well, or that he didn't do the 'scary psyco' part well. What Ledger lacked was the zany humor that was always the Joker's stock and trade. Ledger's Joker was grimdark, not bat insane. Nicholson, on the other hand, nailed both sides of it perfectly.
I agree that Nicholson's Joker is in my opinion the better Joker, but Ledger's Joker really fit the tone of Nolan's Batman movies. Ledger was being grimdark in a grimdark movie; honestly, it would have felt really out of place to see, say, the scene in the 1989 Batman movie where Joker and his henchmen start screwing around with all the different paintings thrown into the Dark Knight.
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Alpharius wrote:Good one but... isn't that Keaton under the cowl there?
It certainly is! But its friggin hilarious either way! And yea, the throat cancer joke bit made me crack up. Its terribly bad of me to find that humorous, but I laughed
Alpharius wrote:Good one but... isn't that Keaton under the cowl there?
It certainly is! But its friggin hilarious either way! And yea, the throat cancer joke bit made me crack up. Its terribly bad of me to find that humorous, but I laughed
Don't feel bad. I did too.
I'm looking forward to this movie. For the haters claiming Bane is a bad idea...he's the villain who broke the Bat-literally. Snapped his spine. Um...he DESERVES a spot in the films. Ignore the Batman&Robin version of Bane-that wasn't Bane, it was a guy in a monkey suit. The real Bane is intelligent, strong, fast and deadly. He's probably Batman's 3rd most dangerous villain of all, after Raz Al Ghul and the Joker. Oh, wait...look at that. Can't imagine what Nolan is trying to tell us there And I'd rather see Catwoman than Robin. Don't get me wrong, I like Dick Grayson, but I prefer him as Nightwing, playing the anti-hero version of Batman who makes his own rules. I think Catwoman can be a great balance to Batman's persona, and Anne Hatheway has done some SERIOUSLY messed up things in movies-I remember her doing a great sensual job in LaOD and she killed her husband in Brokeback Mountain (my mother saw it, told me that part of it). I've seen her do crazy s*** in other movies too, names just escape me. I think she can pull of Selena Kyle's 'driven' personality and do it justice, much the same way that Heath did with the Joker. Don't expect a humorous Catwoman-expect a dark, brooding Catwoman with an itch that only a bat can scratch.
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Agreed Ill be honest, Ive watched brokeback mountain, a few times even. I thought it was a very good movie. And the ending.....just fething killed me, I felt so bad for Ledgers character.
I couldn't get into (shuddup) Brokeback Mountain, it just bored me to tears.
Tried watching it because people said it was good and because it had Heath in it (and after his performance in TDK I was curious about how he was in his other stuff), but I gave up about... I dunno, halfway through?
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Ronin-Sage wrote:I wonder if we'll actually see Catwoman using firearms much in the film.
I wonder if she will actually be called 'Catwoman'. I see her being called Selina, Selina Kyle, and referred to as a cat burglar at some point probably, but I'm not certain she will be specifically called by that name.
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Avatar 720 wrote:I couldn't get into (shuddup) Brokeback Mountain, it just bored me to tears.
Tried watching it because people said it was good and because it had Heath in it (and after his performance in TDK I was curious about how he was in his other stuff), but I gave up about... I dunno, halfway through?
Totally OT here, but have you seen a Heath Ledger movie called the Order? If not I suggest it, its pretty good, and rather dark.
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Ronin-Sage wrote:I wonder if we'll actually see Catwoman using firearms much in the film.
I wonder if she will actually be called 'Catwoman'. I see her being called Selina, Selina Kyle, and referred to as a cat burglar at some point probably, but I'm not certain she will be specifically called by that name.
I think cat burglar has a good ring to it.
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Am I the only one that liked Bane's voice more from the earlier trailer? It was a little more difficult to understand, but it had an edge to it, slightly demonic almost.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Mixed on his voice, but it is easier to understand.
Saw Bane drop the broken Batman mask, will he break the bat? And who is the guy they keep on focusing on in the trailer, are they gunning for a Robin/Nightwing spinoff? I like the 'good' Catwoman that I see so far.
Cool trailer, but you can pretty much suss out the entire movie now.
Weary Bruce Wayne broken by Bane
Batman comes back (hopefully via a training montage) and kicks Bane's butt with new toys
Ending is anyone's guess (though I understand there are some huge spoilers kicking about which I've avoided)
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You know, people were doubting Heath Ledger and he turned out a great performance . So I'll keep my mind open about catwoman.
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Also looks like Batman II and Catwoman join up with funky hovercraft evading missile love.
So Frazzled's theory:
Bane gets jiggly.
Catwoman gets jiggly as well (yowsa yowsa)
Batman gets all up in Bane's business.
Bane aint gonna llow that disrespect.
Bane gets Batman in the open with all the bridgey blowy uppy.
Bane busts up Batman.
Bane disses the feline. Never tick off the females.
Woman scorned joins force with Batman II (aka the bus guy) and bust a cap in Bane's ass with their neeners.
Movie over.
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insane. Nicholson, on the other hand, nailed both sides of it perfectly.
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Ill be honest, Ive watched brokeback mountain, a few times even. I thought it was a very good movie. And the ending.....just fething killed me, I felt so bad for Ledgers character. 
