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Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

You are implying that it is immoral to fly in planes because we weren't designed to do so... Or that it is immoral to deviate the nature of wheat into bread, or that it is immoral to have no children.

And while sexuality does have the purpose of procreation, it isn't it's only purpose.

Also, strictly speaking, according to Natural Law philosophy, homosexuality is a frustration of one's nature, not an exacerbation or a corruption. It isn't considered immoral, more like a tensed state where one ignores the request of his intrinsic nature.

dogma wrote:

Lucian Greymark wrote:
Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

And yet here are all these people, being gay.

If we weren't designed to be gay, what were we designed to do, and why are some people gay?

This thread is making my brain hurt as well as question my sexual orientation, thank you Dakkadakka!


Anyways Dogma proposed a question about the origin of homosexuality in humans and the answer has been given, homosexual aliens. If you want proof then check out the history channel.

Now to be serious, there are actually biological differences in homosexuals and heterosexuals, or at least differences that occur more often in homosexual individuals. For example a homosexual males have a higher chance of having the ear canal design of a female, and for some reason there is a higher percentage of left handed homosexuals than left handed heterosexuals. It may all just come down to genetics and neurobiology and if it does won't that be truly something.

In the immortal words of Boromir.

halonachos wrote:

In the immortal words of Boromir.

Actually given his hand position I believe he may be bragging.
The correct caption for this picture is:
Rectum! Damn near killed him.

AustonT wrote:

halonachos wrote:

In the immortal words of Boromir.

Actually given his hand position I believe he may be bragging.
The correct caption for this picture is:
Rectum! Damn near killed him.

The origial name for the race was "Throbbit".

True story...

Lucian Greymark wrote:

Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

Epic quote.

We weren't fething "designed" at all. Why do you think everyone has back ache and all your teeth don't fit into your jaw properly?

CT GAMER wrote:[

Lucian Greymark wrote:
Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

We aren't designed to be ignorant and hateful either, but sadly far too many people have perfected the art...

I would have to disagree here, I think hate and ignorance are pretty fundamental parts of the human condition.

Bromsy wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:[

Lucian Greymark wrote:
Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

We aren't designed to be ignorant and hateful either, but sadly far too many people have perfected the art...

I would have to disagree here, I think hate and ignorance are pretty fundamental parts of the human condition.

Hate based in ignorance is something we should strive to overcome...

CT GAMER wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:[

Lucian Greymark wrote:
Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

We aren't designed to be ignorant and hateful either, but sadly far too many people have perfected the art...

I would have to disagree here, I think hate and ignorance are pretty fundamental parts of the human condition.

Hate based in ignorance is something we should strive to overcome...

But its still natural, no?

Only if you shift the semantics of 'natural' a little bit.

Naturally (in the sense of according to our physical and intellectual definition), then no, ignorance is as natural as any sickness, which isn't. This is the type of 'Nature' the critics of homosexuality most often refer to

Naturally (in the sense of 'as a part of causal nature'), then yes, ignorance is natural because it's an unavoidable state.

Both acceptations of the term have a 'moral' aspect to it which should prevent its use to justify hatred and ignorance.

TheRobotLol wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:[

Lucian Greymark wrote:
Sorry but homosexuality is wrong, there look its out. Sorry if I offended you. But lets face it. We wernt designed to be gay

We aren't designed to be ignorant and hateful either, but sadly far too many people have perfected the art...

I would have to disagree here, I think hate and ignorance are pretty fundamental parts of the human condition.

Hate based in ignorance is something we should strive to overcome...

But its still natural, no?

Yes, humans fear the unknown.

However there is no excuse for embracing ignorance, nor in using one's own as an excuse for hatred.

As a species we should strive for enlightened and civilized behavior, not knowingly act like ass-hats and then blame it on "human nature"

Some humans fear the unknown. Others embrace it.

That is the basis of the psychological difference between progressive and conservative political philosophy.

Of course both behaviours are pro- or anti-survival depending on circumstances.

I honestly don't see why people hate or dislike the notion of gay people as long they leave me alone and not harass me them about being gay and or trying to "turn" me, I'm completely alright with their existence. Honestly if we can't live in a world where we can all get along then we're screwed.

Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

This thread is about to get so wonderful.

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

This is extremely homophobic and horrible. Furthermore, this stance is just wrong for two reasons.

1. Homosexuality occurs in nature. Sex with animals does not.
2. Humans are smart enough to be consensual with other humans. Animals are not smart enough to be consensual with humans.

GG, people like you are relics of an old, horrible age where rape victims were forced to marry their rapists, women who had lost their virginity before their wedding day were stoned and gays were beaten to death. Thankfully, every day less and less people agree with stances like yours.

Sorry if I'm getting emotional, but homophobia really bothers me, man.

Monster Rain wrote:This thread is about to get so wonderful.

This post contributes nothing to the thread. And, if you're trying to be witty, you failed.

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

I can't say I'm surprised that it's you who makes the jump from "homosexual activity is acceptable and most likely natural, given that pretty much every species on Earth has been documented to engage in it" to "well if homosexuality is okay, then maybe we should all start copulating with animals!".

For the record? Bestiality is a fairly wide practice, and has been for a long time.
Is it kinda out there? Sure.

But equating homosexuality with bestiality is like equating pedophilia with Catholicism.

Sexy Minx

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

oh no, not the slippery slope arguments. you know who was for bestiality right?
http://supportedbythebible.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/bible-supports-bestiality/

but really who cares what someone does in their own house. my philosophy is "don't ask, don't tell" I won't ask you or what you are sleeping with, please don't tell me who or what you are sleeping with.

LoneLictor wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:This thread is about to get so wonderful.

This post contributes nothing to the thread. And, if you're trying to be witty, you failed.

If it helps, your post is exactly the kind of thing that I was referring to when I said that. By which I mean GG's post was a timebomb, and it was only a matter of time until the flame war was joined in full.

LoneLictor wrote:1. Homosexuality occurs in nature. Sex with animals does not.

How do animals reproduce, then?

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

I laughed so hard at this post. Classic.

You truly are the King of the Shat Goblins.

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals? Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

GG

Yeah. Nobody is actually arguing "It's right because it feels good" that's silly reasoning for anything. It's just a way of mocking a stupid stance taken by horrible people.

Monster Rain wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:1. Homosexuality occurs in nature. Sex with animals does not.

How do animals reproduce, then?

By magic, duhhh.

Actually, what I meant is that humans having sex with animals doesn't occur in nature.

If by "in nature" you mean "in the animal kingdom" then that goes without saying...

Inter-species intercourse does actually occur in nature though, it's not common but it does happen.

LoneLictor wrote:Actually, what I meant is that humans having sex with animals doesn't occur in nature.

But it does occur.

/decides against getting involved in another "Are Humans Part of 'Nature'" conversation.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120406234458.htm

"Homophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires, a series of psychology studies demonstrates."

The more you know.

generalgrog wrote:Is it natural for humans to have sex with animals?

If people do it, then yes. The use of "natural" in this sense is just a euphemism for "Things I'm comfortable with."

generalgrog wrote:
Just wondering..because some of the descriptions I have seen in this thread make me think so, since it could be a pleasurable experience. I mean if animals were designed with tight little orifices that are pleasurable to the human male, why not start dating sheep. Or let me flip it and say maybe women having sex with horses or donkeys because they have long penis' so hey why not?

If you're attracted to the concept, go nuts. Though there's a decent argument that its abusive to the animal, as it cannot consent, and therefore reprehensible; basically the same argument by which pedophilia and rape are rendered reprehensible.

But if animals can't consent, aren't we standing by while countless animals rape each other? Won't someone think of the children!

LoneLictor wrote:
Actually, what I meant is that humans having sex with animals doesn't occur in nature.

If it happens, then it does.


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Bromsy wrote:But if animals can't consent, aren't we standing by while countless animals rape each other? Won't someone think of the children!

How about consent to the degree a rational human being could?

dogma wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:
Actually, what I meant is that humans having sex with animals doesn't occur in nature.

If it happens, then it does.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Bromsy wrote:But if animals can't consent, aren't we standing by while countless animals rape each other? Won't someone think of the children!

How about consent to the degree a rational human being could?

that rational really cuts down the herd.