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pretre wrote:[

catharsix wrote:I think that this is a great idea, and I also think that this post should be stickied.

That said, it also should be carefully monitored by the Mods, to ensure that it isn't a flame-fest, or just an excuse for finger-pointing and name-calling. Maybe a Mod would be interested in maintaining it, like they maintain the "Reputable Trader List" stickied thread in the Swap Shop Forum...

That's just my humble suggestion, but either way, I think this post is a good idea, and I wanted to register my opinion as a longtime Dakka member.

Am I not trustworthy, C6? Anyways, the mods have better things to do than much around with this, whereas I have nothing better to do. If they wanna sticky it, that'd be great though.

Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy. I just thought that sticky threads are usually maintained by a Mod, since it's their job to do various kinds of things like that, not individual users. If the Mods were fine with sticky-ing a post that you maintained rather than them, I think that'd be great! (save them the trouble )

Who knows what the future holds with GW and rumors though - I don't get my hopes up for anything anymore. GW's policies, on top of the avalanche of conflicting rumors for various things from various sources, just makes it all hard to think about. My head hurts...

Anyhow, good work so far, keep it up!

-C6

@pretre - Hehe, oddly I was saying the same thing to folks who didn't believe 8th Fantasy was due two years ago.

Ok, like Silver I thought I'd give you a hand concerning myself and my news/rumours.

First info about the upcoming release of a new limited edition novella - Catechism of Hate

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/414255.page

First info about the upcoming release of the Chaos Decimator from Forge World

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/434075.page

First info about Games Day 2012 and changes from previous years.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/436358.page

First news about GW's new '1 Week Before' new released policy.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/369325.page

There have been a couple more occasions where I've posted things I know or indeed thought I knew in other threads, such as Stat Lines and points costs for the Necrons before release (correct) and Summer of Flyers (2011) where alas I was incorrect.

Hope this helps!

ColdSadHungry wrote:@Pretre

Didn't BoK actually do a turn around on the 6th ed leak and then say they believed it to be a fake after saying it was true? I'm pretty sure that they did, anyway.

Did they? Do you have a link? I'll update it with that commentary though.


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catharsix wrote:Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy.

I know, I was just fething with you.


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The Decapitator wrote:Ok, like Silver I thought I'd give you a hand concerning myself and my news/rumours.
Hope this helps!

It does indeed! I will add you and put up your record for all to see. I do so appreciate forthcoming rumor mongers.


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The Decapitator is now added! Thanks again.

catharsix wrote:Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy. I just thought that sticky threads are usually maintained by a Mod, since it's their job to do various kinds of things like that, not individual users. If the Mods were fine with sticky-ing a post that you maintained rather than them, I think that'd be great! (save them the trouble )

There is no problem with a user-made sticky, if we're convinced that poster will actually stick around to maintain it.

I think the bigger problem here is convincing the mods that this thread serves a valuable enough purpose to be worth stickying. Rumours are rumours. I'm a little perplexed at the perceived need to 'grade' them on accuracy, since there are just so many variables involved. Rumours can be accurate at the time they are presented, but rendered inaccurate later due to things changing during development. And totally made-up stuff can be judged 'accurate' if the studio just happens to go down a similar path. Should someone who made up a rumour that Space Marines would get a flyer, or Space Wolves would ride around on giant wolves be judged 'accurate' just because GW eventually decided to release such things?

Frankly, there is no way to accurately judge any of this stuff without being privy to the complete trail the information has followed. So all this list really is, is a list of people who post rumours. You're still left judging the value of any given rumour on the timing of it and the actual information it contains.

Kudos to pretre for actually rolling up his sleeves and putting in the work here, though.

Dear mods;
While some may not think this is useful, personally, I do.

OP, thanks for doing this, and for keeping it up even with the criticisms.

Yes, we know this is not an exact science, but hey, its better than combing through hundreds of other threads, or using "oh, hey so and so said that person X was accurate...".

The timing issue is addressed by the types of rating each receives. We are only judging true, false, wrong date. If yOu say tau will be out Tuesday and they aren't, that's false. If you say 6th will have charge reactions and it doesn't, that's false.

Even Iif those things were true at one time, your rumor was false.

I'll keep campaigning though.

I like this a lot. As a newcomer to the rumors game, I don't fully understand when people say X person is more reliable over Y person. This thread actually lets me see the rumors persons X and Y have made (and if they panned out).

Thanks a lot OP.

I think this thread will be a great resource once the kinks are worked out.

However, I don't think it can possibly present a full picture until you fold the WFB rumours & outcomes into the summary. The disinclusion of those rumours is the PRECISE reason why Harry and Hastings didn't "score" as well as some people thought they would; a lot of their rumourmongering successes involved 8th edition WFB releases.

I will add WFB if people give them to me. Also note there are no scores anymore.

More BoW stuff added.

Regarding Bramgart, I don't know if I agree that warriors "stayed the same."

Going from a 3+ to a 4+ is kind of a big deal in my world.

The rumor was re: the models. I updated to reflect that.

@pretre Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days): So Beasts of War was correct on the flyers coming out (so Rumor=True), what if the sketches they showed were way off base? Do they get a True with a caveat or a False since it did not happen "as they said"?

reps0l wrote:@pretre Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days): So Beasts of War was correct on the flyers coming out (so Rumor=True), what if the sketches they showed were way off base? Do they get a True with a caveat or a False since it did not happen "as they said"?

Did we get an official confirmation from GW on the flyers? I would give them a true if they are pretty close.

Not "Official GW" but BoLS usually does not post these lists unless they have an order form or whatever Independent Retailers call them:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/05/40k-wfb-news-june-releases.html

Yeah, I think that as a policy I will wait for the 'official' confirmation of whatever rumor we are discussing.

Probably the best way to handle it.

Hence my "Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days)" preface

reps0l wrote:Hence my "Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days)" preface

Cool, let me update the original post with the policy.


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Added eldar flyer rumors.



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Added BoW Starter Set rumors.


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Updated some from the BT thread that just popped up when someone necro'd it.

Looks like Beast of War did good on the sketches:
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?p=200005#post200005

Not from GW, but the definitely looks like images from a GW book.

Yeah, I think I'll count it.


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Updates made for all the flyer rumors.


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Anyone have the original monger for the price increase?

I don't think there was an "original rumor monger" for the price increase. It's expected every year so it was more of a breaking news type of event rather than a speculative rumor/gossip.

BoLS has a post on their main page. Miniwargaming made a video about too. Etc etc.

We'll let it go then.

Just scanning through some of the collection, need several more for Beasts of Wars rule set:
Stand and Shoot (allows units to shoot when they are being charged)
Pre-Measuring In

References here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450082.page

Also, if you can color code your True/False/Pending etc, it will make it easier to see what's up at a glance.

Okay, just fixed colors and spacing for a lot of stuff.

Added the BoW one and the one from BoLs re: no more waves.


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Added CCW get AP for BoW. Enough Acronyms?

Added Stickmonkey's new flyer rumors.

Added chaos rumors from http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/06/galaxy-trembles-as-chaos-approaches.html#more

October WOC Release PENDING

Delayed

CCW get AP in 6th Ed PENDING

Yes

Premeasuring in! PENDING

Yes

Wound Allocation is closest models to shooting unit first. PENDING

Yes

40k will have challenges like in fantasy PENDING

Similar

Hardcover book PENDING

Yes

Eldar flyer spotted PENDING

Yes

Dark Angels (May/June) PENDING

No

6th Edition (July/August) PENDING

No

-Starter Box featuring Dark Angels vs. Eldar PENDING

No

Eldar (Oct/Nov Xenos slot) PENDING

No

October WOC Release PENDING

No

No EW Levels PENDING
Correct

Hull Points PENDING

Yes

Chaos Legions mid Year PENDING

Late, CSM, not Legions

Tau, first codex in 2013 PENDING

No

DA not updated anytime soon because GW doesn't want to invest in armies no one plays PENDING

No

Eldar before 6th PENDING

No

CSM get one of newest dexes in 6th PENDING

Yes

Tau / BT right after CSM PENDING

No

No TOS in 2012 PENDING

No to the Negative

@Whitehat: Where are you getting your confirmations?


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Massive update from Faeit 212 rumor compilation:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/06/codex-chaos-marines-rumor-compilation.html#more


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Also, added Whitehat since he seems to think he is a rumor monger. I think you may have just picked the low-hanging fruit though.


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Updated the TOS rumor for Sharkticon since it was announced. Removed it from Whitehat since he posted the same day it was announced.

Confirmations are confidential

June 30 is 6th Ed
August is Daemons wave (plastic troops, last two boxes)
DA Early next year
Apart from CSM, no more codexes/Armybooks this year