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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/17 20:43:48
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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pretre wrote:[
catharsix wrote:I think that this is a great idea, and I also think that this post should be stickied.
That said, it also should be carefully monitored by the Mods, to ensure that it isn't a flame-fest, or just an excuse for finger-pointing and name-calling. Maybe a Mod would be interested in maintaining it, like they maintain the "Reputable Trader List" stickied thread in the Swap Shop Forum...
That's just my humble suggestion, but either way, I think this post is a good idea, and I wanted to register my opinion as a longtime Dakka member.
Am I not trustworthy, C6? Anyways, the mods have better things to do than much around with this, whereas I have nothing better to do. If they wanna sticky it, that'd be great though.
Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy. I just thought that sticky threads are usually maintained by a Mod, since it's their job to do various kinds of things like that, not individual users. If the Mods were fine with sticky-ing a post that you maintained rather than them, I think that'd be great! (save them the trouble  )
Who knows what the future holds with GW and rumors though - I don't get my hopes up for anything anymore. GW's policies, on top of the avalanche of conflicting rumors for various things from various sources, just makes it all hard to think about. My head hurts...
Anyhow, good work so far, keep it up!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/17 20:46:59
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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[DCM]
Back in the dark
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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@pretre - Hehe, oddly I was saying the same thing to folks who didn't believe 8th Fantasy was due two years ago.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/17 20:59:26
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
Commoragh
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Ok, like Silver I thought I'd give you a hand concerning myself and my news/rumours.
First info about the upcoming release of a new limited edition novella - Catechism of Hate
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/414255.page
First info about the upcoming release of the Chaos Decimator from Forge World
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/434075.page
First info about Games Day 2012 and changes from previous years.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/436358.page
First news about GW's new '1 Week Before' new released policy.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/369325.page
There have been a couple more occasions where I've posted things I know or indeed thought I knew in other threads, such as Stat Lines and points costs for the Necrons before release (correct) and Summer of Flyers (2011) where alas I was incorrect.
Hope this helps!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/17 21:05:04
Subject: Re:Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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ColdSadHungry wrote:@Pretre
Didn't BoK actually do a turn around on the 6th ed leak and then say they believed it to be a fake after saying it was true? I'm pretty sure that they did, anyway.
Did they? Do you have a link? I'll update it with that commentary though. Automatically Appended Next Post: catharsix wrote:Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy.
I know, I was just fething with you. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Decapitator wrote:Ok, like Silver I thought I'd give you a hand concerning myself and my news/rumours.
Hope this helps! 
It does indeed! I will add you and put up your record for all to see. I do so appreciate forthcoming rumor mongers. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Decapitator is now added! Thanks again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/18 21:51:06
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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catharsix wrote:Oh no! I totally wasn't trying to imply that you aren't trustworthy. I just thought that sticky threads are usually maintained by a Mod, since it's their job to do various kinds of things like that, not individual users. If the Mods were fine with sticky-ing a post that you maintained rather than them, I think that'd be great! (save them the trouble  )
There is no problem with a user-made sticky, if we're convinced that poster will actually stick around to maintain it.
I think the bigger problem here is convincing the mods that this thread serves a valuable enough purpose to be worth stickying. Rumours are rumours. I'm a little perplexed at the perceived need to 'grade' them on accuracy, since there are just so many variables involved. Rumours can be accurate at the time they are presented, but rendered inaccurate later due to things changing during development. And totally made-up stuff can be judged 'accurate' if the studio just happens to go down a similar path. Should someone who made up a rumour that Space Marines would get a flyer, or Space Wolves would ride around on giant wolves be judged 'accurate' just because GW eventually decided to release such things?
Frankly, there is no way to accurately judge any of this stuff without being privy to the complete trail the information has followed. So all this list really is, is a list of people who post rumours. You're still left judging the value of any given rumour on the timing of it and the actual information it contains.
Kudos to pretre for actually rolling up his sleeves and putting in the work here, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/18 22:36:24
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Dear mods;
While some may not think this is useful, personally, I do.
OP, thanks for doing this, and for keeping it up even with the criticisms.
Yes, we know this is not an exact science, but hey, its better than combing through hundreds of other threads, or using "oh, hey so and so said that person X was accurate...".
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DavePak
"Remember, in life, the only thing you absolutely control is your own attitude - do not squander that power."
Fully Painted armies:
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Actor, Gamer, Comic, Corporate Nerd
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/18 22:40:54
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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The timing issue is addressed by the types of rating each receives. We are only judging true, false, wrong date. If yOu say tau will be out Tuesday and they aren't, that's false. If you say 6th will have charge reactions and it doesn't, that's false.
Even Iif those things were true at one time, your rumor was false.
I'll keep campaigning though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/18 22:41:26
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
Somewhere Ironic
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I like this a lot. As a newcomer to the rumors game, I don't fully understand when people say X person is more reliable over Y person. This thread actually lets me see the rumors persons X and Y have made (and if they panned out).
Thanks a lot OP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/20 00:34:51
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Dakka Veteran
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I think this thread will be a great resource once the kinks are worked out.
However, I don't think it can possibly present a full picture until you fold the WFB rumours & outcomes into the summary. The disinclusion of those rumours is the PRECISE reason why Harry and Hastings didn't "score" as well as some people thought they would; a lot of their rumourmongering successes involved 8th edition WFB releases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/20 01:16:11
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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I will add WFB if people give them to me. Also note there are no scores anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 16:14:42
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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More BoW stuff added.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 19:17:02
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Regarding Bramgart, I don't know if I agree that warriors "stayed the same."
Going from a 3+ to a 4+ is kind of a big deal in my world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/21 19:27:32
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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The rumor was re: the models. I updated to reflect that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 11:51:34
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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@pretre Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days): So Beasts of War was correct on the flyers coming out (so Rumor=True), what if the sketches they showed were way off base? Do they get a True with a caveat or a False since it did not happen "as they said"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 13:25:39
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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reps0l wrote:@pretre Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days): So Beasts of War was correct on the flyers coming out (so Rumor=True), what if the sketches they showed were way off base? Do they get a True with a caveat or a False since it did not happen "as they said"?
Did we get an official confirmation from GW on the flyers? I would give them a true if they are pretty close.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 13:35:00
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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Not "Official GW" but BoLS usually does not post these lists unless they have an order form or whatever Independent Retailers call them:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/05/40k-wfb-news-june-releases.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 13:38:58
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah, I think that as a policy I will wait for the 'official' confirmation of whatever rumor we are discussing.
Probably the best way to handle it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 13:58:39
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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Hence my "Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days)" preface
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/22 14:04:56
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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reps0l wrote:Hence my "Hypothetical question (at least for the next few days)" preface
Cool, let me update the original post with the policy. Automatically Appended Next Post: Added eldar flyer rumors.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Added BoW Starter Set rumors. Automatically Appended Next Post: Updated some from the BT thread that just popped up when someone necro'd it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/23 12:48:23
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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Looks like Beast of War did good on the sketches:
http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?p=200005#post200005
Not from GW, but the definitely looks like images from a GW book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/23 14:02:08
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yeah, I think I'll count it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Updates made for all the flyer rumors. Automatically Appended Next Post: Anyone have the original monger for the price increase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/23 14:38:58
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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I don't think there was an "original rumor monger" for the price increase. It's expected every year so it was more of a breaking news type of event rather than a speculative rumor/gossip.
BoLS has a post on their main page. Miniwargaming made a video about too. Etc etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/23 14:43:29
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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We'll let it go then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 14:29:52
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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Just scanning through some of the collection, need several more for Beasts of Wars rule set:
Stand and Shoot (allows units to shoot when they are being charged)
Pre-Measuring In
References here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450082.page
Also, if you can color code your True/False/Pending etc, it will make it easier to see what's up at a glance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/30 14:52:56
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Okay, just fixed colors and spacing for a lot of stuff.
Added the BoW one and the one from BoLs re: no more waves. Automatically Appended Next Post: Added CCW get AP for BoW. Enough Acronyms?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 13:46:20
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Added Stickmonkey's new flyer rumors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/05 14:51:54
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/06 14:03:23
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Fresh-Faced New User
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October WOC Release PENDING
Delayed
CCW get AP in 6th Ed PENDING
Yes
Premeasuring in! PENDING
Yes
Wound Allocation is closest models to shooting unit first. PENDING
Yes
40k will have challenges like in fantasy PENDING
Similar
Hardcover book PENDING
Yes
Eldar flyer spotted PENDING
Yes
Dark Angels (May/June) PENDING
No
6th Edition (July/August) PENDING
No
-Starter Box featuring Dark Angels vs. Eldar PENDING
No
Eldar (Oct/Nov Xenos slot) PENDING
No
October WOC Release PENDING
No
No EW Levels PENDING
Correct
Hull Points PENDING
Yes
Chaos Legions mid Year PENDING
Late, CSM, not Legions
Tau, first codex in 2013 PENDING
No
DA not updated anytime soon because GW doesn't want to invest in armies no one plays PENDING
No
Eldar before 6th PENDING
No
CSM get one of newest dexes in 6th PENDING
Yes
Tau / BT right after CSM PENDING
No
No TOS in 2012 PENDING
No to the Negative
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/06 14:09:53
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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@Whitehat: Where are you getting your confirmations? Automatically Appended Next Post: Massive update from Faeit 212 rumor compilation:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2012/06/codex-chaos-marines-rumor-compilation.html#more Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, added Whitehat since he seems to think he is a rumor monger. I think you may have just picked the low-hanging fruit though. Automatically Appended Next Post: Updated the TOS rumor for Sharkticon since it was announced. Removed it from Whitehat since he posted the same day it was announced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/07 00:28:08
Subject: Ongoing Rumor Accuracy Tracking
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Confirmations are confidential
June 30 is 6th Ed
August is Daemons wave (plastic troops, last two boxes)
DA Early next year
Apart from CSM, no more codexes/Armybooks this year
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