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2012/05/30 05:04:20
Subject: Re:Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Hazardous Harry wrote:Tadashi wrote:Hazardous Harry wrote:Tadashi wrote:
That would be treason. And in any case, as I've said before and will say again, the Space Marines and the Mechanicum were unwilling to do anything about the matter until they were sure they were in the right.
"The Adeptus Astartes held aloof and looked to their own councils, unsure what course history would take. Even the Tech-Priests turned away from the High Lords." - The Age of Apostasy Warhammer 40,000 Wargear 2nd Editiion
This only indicates that they were powerless, not that they were unsure that they were in the right.
Yeah, and in the end, IIRC, an army laid siege to the Ecclesiarchal Palace was composed of Space Marines and Mechanicum troops. Powerless? They just didn't choose to act. Even before Thor appeared, the Space Marines and the Mechanicum were keeping Vandire's goons out of their Homeworlds and Forge Worlds.
They only joined in when Sebastian Thor arrived, at the head of the better part of a Segmentum fleet.
The Astartes may have decided to join in and even spearhead the assault once things were looking up, but they were small fries compared to the force Thor was leading.
Well, obviously. The galaxy is a big place, and there are barely enough Space Marines as it is. And that wasn't my point. My point was that the Astartes and the Mechanicum weren't helpless. They may not have had the resources to confront Vandire directly, but they had enough to keep Vandire's thugs off their worlds, and enough influence to keep Vandire from compromising their autonomy - they basically washed their hands of the matter until Thor showed up and provided a center of resistance.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/05/30 08:46:57
Subject: Re:Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Tadashi wrote:
Well, obviously. The galaxy is a big place, and there are barely enough Space Marines as it is. And that wasn't my point. My point was that the Astartes and the Mechanicum weren't helpless. They may not have had the resources to confront Vandire directly, but they had enough to keep Vandire's thugs off their worlds, and enough influence to keep Vandire from compromising their autonomy - they basically washed their hands of the matter until Thor showed up and provided a center of resistance.
Pontius Pilate wrote:I am innocent of the blood of this just person; see ye to it.
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sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
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2012/06/01 00:48:33
Subject: Re:Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Dunno if this is spoilers or not but just in case...
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2012/06/03 10:35:22
Subject: Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
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Just a bit of Horus Heresy (the book) for you to consider:
"Age would not wither the Astartes. They would live forever. 5,000 years, 10,000, beyond even that, into some unimaginable millenium. Except for the scythe of war. Immortal, but not invulnerable. They might live forever, but they would never get the chance. Immortality was a bi-product of their Astartes strength."
So judging from that, yes they can live forever.
EDIT: Silly spelling mistakes.
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 For Russ! For the Wolftime! |
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2012/06/03 10:53:01
Subject: Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Immortality sounds nice...can we become immortal through real life science? I certainly hope so.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/06/03 11:46:34
Subject: Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Brisbane, Australia
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Sierra02 wrote:Just a bit of Horus Heresy (the book) for you to consider:
"Age would not wither the Astartes. They would live forever. 5,000 years, 10,000, beyond even that, into some unimaginable millenium. Except for the scythe of war. Immortal, but not invulnerable. They might live forever, but they would never get the chance. Immortality was a bi-product of their Astartes strength."
So judging from that, yes they can live forever.
This seems pretty conclusive. If that's the case why does Bjorn Fell-Handed have to sleep longer each time he's put to rest?
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sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
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2012/06/03 12:05:58
Subject: Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Hazardous Harry wrote:Sierra02 wrote:Just a bit of Horus Heresy (the book) for you to consider:
"Age would not wither the Astartes. They would live forever. 5,000 years, 10,000, beyond even that, into some unimaginable millenium. Except for the scythe of war. Immortal, but not invulnerable. They might live forever, but they would never get the chance. Immortality was a bi-product of their Astartes strength."
So judging from that, yes they can live forever.
This seems pretty conclusive. If that's the case why does Bjorn Fell-Handed have to sleep longer each time he's put to rest?
Because:
1) He's a Dreadnought and as such needs maintenance time, and it's not like he can do anything in his state
2) Even if they're immortal, the Human body still needs to rest from time to time
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/06/03 12:21:58
Subject: Can Space Marines Die Of Old Age?
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Automated Space Wolves Thrall
Australia
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Hazardous Harry wrote:Sierra02 wrote:Just a bit of Horus Heresy (the book) for you to consider:
"Age would not wither the Astartes. They would live forever. 5,000 years, 10,000, beyond even that, into some unimaginable millenium. Except for the scythe of war. Immortal, but not invulnerable. They might live forever, but they would never get the chance. Immortality was a bi-product of their Astartes strength."
So judging from that, yes they can live forever.
This seems pretty conclusive. If that's the case why does Bjorn Fell-Handed have to sleep longer each time he's put to rest?
Could possibly be a dreadnought issue. Considering that the SM inside the dreadnought was mortally wounded there could be some ramifications?
I wouldn't even know where to begin on trying to justify that answer but it is only a possible cause.
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For Russ! For the Wolftime! |
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