Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Legion was perhaps one of the most compulsive page-turners ever released by Black Library

I agreed with every thing you said in your post for the most part, I think I will read Legion next. Thanks.

Pacific wrote:And finally, yes a real reason for the Heresy taking place. Has anyone else realised that we don't have one yet? And no, I'm not talking about the sword!

It would be nice to have one, yes.

I'm not not sure what happened to the 'Horus being the right ruler of the Imperium' story that has, as far as I know, always been the case. Now the Heresy is happening because he is angry and his brothers are going along for the ride. Not enough has been revealed about the what Horus has said to the other Primarchs yet and Lorgar going along with it seems a bit off too, in my opinion. Why's he even bothering to help Horus when he's got what he wants and showed every one the Chaos Gods, it's all starting to meander a bit.

Horus falling to chaos was supposed to be a by product of the Heresy, not him shaking hands with Daemons and going all Papa Shango. It was supposed to be a gradual corruption that made his ending a little more tragic not the straight out 'ha ha, look at me I am evil now, grr!'

Deathshead420 wrote:

Legion was perhaps one of the most compulsive page-turners ever released by Black Library

I agreed with every thing you said in your post for the most part, I think I will read Legion next. Thanks.

till you get to the end... then you'll throw it against the wall. It's another patented Dan Abnett 'Oh, am I out of pages, better wrap this up then whether or not it makes a lick of sense' ending.

I recommend ripping out the last 5 pages then imagining how it might end.

Pacific wrote:

kronk wrote:

Deathshead420 wrote:What didn't you like about fulgrim? Just curious.

Spoiler:

Choking out a Wraithlord, which doesn't breathe, was wrong on so many levels. That was a fail not only of fluff and silliness, but one of the basics of Eldar knowledge. Inexcusable.

It's funny isn't it, there can be a single defining moment that breaks that suspension of disbelief, and then the whole thing falls on its bottom.

Exactly. It completely took me "out of the book". I finished the story, and the book wasn't a complete loss, but it was annoying, to say the least. Certainly the worst of the bunch in my opinion.

Pacific wrote:Having said that, I love the way that the most of the marines in the Heresy series have so much character, and give the reader so much to relate to - contrast with the two-dimensional drones who are often featured in the 40k universe.

The books that focus on the personality of certain Space Marines or even Primarchs are the ones that I like best. I think that's the reason for my appeal to ADB, perhaps. He writes gritty, grim-dark well, but can put some personality to the characters. If he doesn't make me like the character(s) he is focusing on, he at least makes me care about what happens to them (sometimes you want bad things to happen to them...)

I like the series so far since it's actually more than just a 'sandbox' story: its an attempt at a large, multi-author arcing plot to expand the universe, and as far as I am concerned its working. It adds alot of depth to the background and while it de-mythifies some things (like the Primarchs) it also has done a fairly good job of introducing more mysteries that have yet to be answered. What's more, it's still a going concern, so alot of the things that don't seem to 'make sense' now are still in the process of evolving. I'm willing to at least wait for awhile and see how things turn out in a few more years, especially as we move closer to the Battle of Terra.

Did someone really say Fulgrim was a so so book. Fulgrim alone carries 40k lol. that book has A PRIMARCH DIE. Fulgrim is one the best books ive ever read, all of my friends agree that Fulgrim rivals the simirillian ( dont know if i spelt that correct )

The first 3 books were amazing. Flight of Eisenstein was okay. Fulgrim was mind blowing. Decent of angels was badass, just awesome, the last part of DOA was disappointing.

As far as 40k books go Nick Kyme is an alright writer, Fall of Damnos was an awful book, it took me almost a year to finish it, it was so dry, and its a BATTLE book, with no conclusive ending..... horrible.

Nick kymes writing and story telling has improved greatly throughout the salamander trilogy.

Aaron is the best writer BL has, the Night lord books are the best written books Ive seen, the background story for Conrad Kurze is mind blowing, you actually understand and feel bad for the chaos marines.. opens up an entire new side of thinking when it comes to the universe of 40k.

I was also curious about Horus,

I'm 90 % sure he is not influenced by Erebus, or Magnus, or chaos anything before he betrays the imperium. In False gods he is talking with the other races leader aboard the vengeful spirit and the guy says " We have S T C Machines--- gets cut off and Horus blows his head off. Thats the deciding factor in whether or not Horus goes against the emperor. He realizes that with the STC machines he can beat the emperor. I was just wondering. WHY Didn't HORUS BE LIKE HEY DAD ARE YOU ASCENDING TO GODHOOD ? "NO SON THATS RANDOM LOOL?, WHY DO YOU ASK?!" "OH JUST WONDERING!" HORUS HERESY ADVERTED BY A DAM QUESTION..

Pilau Rice wrote:

Pacific wrote:And finally, yes a real reason for the Heresy taking place. Has anyone else realised that we don't have one yet? And no, I'm not talking about the sword!

It would be nice to have one, yes.

I'm not not sure what happened to the 'Horus being the right ruler of the Imperium' story that has, as far as I know, always been the case. Now the Heresy is happening because he is angry and his brothers are going along for the ride. Not enough has been revealed about the what Horus has said to the other Primarchs yet and Lorgar going along with it seems a bit off too, in my opinion. Why's he even bothering to help Horus when he's got what he wants and showed every one the Chaos Gods, it's all starting to meander a bit.

Horus falling to chaos was supposed to be a by product of the Heresy, not him shaking hands with Daemons and going all Papa Shango. It was supposed to be a gradual corruption that made his ending a little more tragic not the straight out 'ha ha, look at me I am evil now, grr!'

Agreed that Horus' motivations seem strange, especially since he didn't seem overly convinced by the daemons' charade when he was catatonic. "The Emperor fears me and is jealous of me? That's ridiculous and patently false. ... Hmm, now that I think about it, why doesn't the Emperor fear me and be jealous of me? I'm the baddest mofo of them all. That bastard, I'll show him!"

It's kind of like the awful prequel Trilogy. "I want to be a Jedi hero and gain acceptance from the Masters! But wait, I'm going to decapitate some kids now. I love my wife and turn to evil to protect her, but now I'm gonna choke the bitch like Wayne Brady."

As for Lorgar, he hasn't yet really revealed the true face of Chaos to his brothers, since it's pretty horrible to those without an "evolved" understanding of it.

Omegus wrote:

As for Lorgar, he hasn't yet really revealed the true face of Chaos to his brothers, since it's pretty horrible to those without an "evolved" understanding of it.

The others don't suspect why Lorgar is being all scary and his troops being all Daemony? He must have given Horus some pointers, or why bother sacrificing the population in Nemesis? Fulgrim knows for sure and Horus knows about Fulgrim, the brother Primarchs know.

But my meaning was that Lorgar originally used the Heresy to get Chaos and it's worship out in the open, now it's the case of less smoke and mirrors and it being a Chaos Rights Parade. The corruption has always been .. gradual. It just feels like from loyalist to traitor only takes a heartbeat. Where's the drama, where's the soul turning revelations?!

I do think though that some of the writing in the Heresy series (and this is my biggest problem with it) is that it is so difficult to write 'evil' characters well, and at the same time not making them paradoxical in nature, and destroying that suspension of disbelief. ADB and McNeil (at least in A Thousand Sons) do it well, by not actually making the characters 'evil' - those characters have to believe that what they are doing is the right thing, and there are reasons for it, even if they ultimately end up on the 'wrong' side. But, when you have characters just turning on a dime and doing 'evil for evils sake' the whole thing comes across as false and contrived.

It's license fiction. There has to be some kind of acceptance that the writing will be... iffy... from time to time. Obviously Counter's Battle For the Abyss was a crowning achievement in terrible characterization and storytelling. However, some of the problems around writing these characters is that they all started out as cardstock villains. Angr(y)on is the worst of the bunch. He's a terrible character on an epic scale. How do you write him well? It's just not possible, and kudos to some of the guys who have at least given it the old college try. But ultimately, these characters aren't going away. Because it's a well known license, the readership has certain expectations for them, and how they are going to act. Unfortunately, not all of these fans are discerning readers, so they don't care that their motivations are flimsy or contradictory. Those fans don't care that the character's place in the universe doesn't make sense. So it isn't like the authors can suddenly make huge strides with refining them. Some of the characters are just going to be easier than others.

Frecklesonfire wrote:Did someone really say Fulgrim was a so so book. Fulgrim alone carries 40k lol. that book has A PRIMARCH DIE. Fulgrim is one the best books ive ever read, all of my friends agree that Fulgrim rivals the simirillian ( dont know if i spelt that correct ) .

Primarchs deaths have been detailed in lots of books, lol. Does that make all of them automatically great? And the Simarillion is entirely unreadable. It's almost as muddled as Fellowship, and nearly as boring as the entire half of Two Towers devoted to trees talking about not doing anything. I was lucky enough to pick up a rare first printing of it at a public library book sale for like a dollar. Yeah, safe to say I've still never read the whole thing.

Ah now, Fellowship of the Ring is a great read. Way better than Return of the King.

Probably my most re-read book of all time.

On the heresy books, I seem to either like them or find them complete poo, with only a couple of ones I'm unsure of.

Abnetts have some really poor endings (especially prospero burns) and I am not enamoured of a certain sub plot he has been perpetually pushing. On the flip side they are very readable and immersive.

AD-Bs are all really good, but I think he's gotten some nice ones to write so far. I haven't read anything by him yet that I've disliked outside of the Heresy, but there's some tough ones coming up that should be an interesting test of his abilities.

McNeill was at his best with Thousand Sons, but many of his books are weak. I didn't enjoy Fulgrim, and the whole magic sword explanation really pisses me off after the fairly decent start the series had.

Who wrote Flight of the Eisenstein? that had some decent heroes but man the villains were complete gak. I was rolling my eyes reading it. Panto villain plague marines, woot.

Anything that I've seen get worse reviews than the ones I've mentioned I avoid. Outcast Dead was infuriating because of McNeill's repetitive writing style. He had a legion specific adjective for each character. The EC marine did everything "perfectly" with "perfect" poise to "perfection" and the World Eaters raged angrily about anger. Blech.

Neither love, nor hate. I really just don't care, and have no reason to care, about the Horus Heresy series.

There is almost nothing in it that interests me, positively or negatively.

Pacific wrote:
Also, when the likes of Abnett have been given some room on the leash to come up with some new concepts and ideas - Legion was perhaps one of the most compulsive page-turners ever released by Black Library, and Prospero Burns helped solidify the Space Wolves as a far more believable (and important) concept. I think when Abnett has been given less breathing room, more clearly defined borders (for example concerning the rather poorly named 'Know No Fear' - book must start with treachery of Word Bearers, surprise attack, ends with rugged resistance) then I've tended to enjoy them less just because you know exactly where it begins and how it is going to end. Although, I realise that that is probably more of a subjective thing as I know a lot of people really enjoyed that book.

For me, the fact that I knew what was going to happen made the build up to the betrayal in 'Know No Fear' in even more exciting. I think those three books you mentioned are the best three.

Pacific wrote:
Anyway, while I don't have the enthusiasm for the Heresy series that I once had, for the most part I am still enjoying reading them. To be honest it hasn't been helped by 'The Primarchs' which I am struggling through at the moment, and is coming across as though it is some kind of collection of B-sides. - I thought 'The Mirror Crack'd', again aside from the crappy and slightly pretentious title (who is coming up with them?) features probably the worst story I have ever read of McNeil's, and the second story in the book was completely unremarkable - I've already forgotten the title in fact!

I agree. i didn't enjoy The first two parts of 'The Primarchs'. I like the the one with the lion - although I wish they'd gone further with that story -

Frecklesonfire wrote:Did someone really say Fulgrim was a so so book. Fulgrim alone carries 40k lol. that book has A PRIMARCH DIE. Fulgrim is one the best books ive ever read, all of my friends agree that Fulgrim rivals the simirillian ( dont know if i spelt that correct ) .

...

From this, I can only assume you've read a total of two books in your life. One being Fulgrim, and the other, oh I don't know, anything by Gav Thorpe.

I know I already made my main point but everyone seemsto be really defining the moments from each book as they see them.

If that's the case I could put a little more effort into my review of the series.

I'll try to sum it up in pros and cons as I saw them. I know you won't all agree with me but hey, that's the interwebs for ya.

Horus Rising:
Good book. Abnett is my favorite BL author. The book had incredible revelations to us 40k fans about the way of life in the time of the Emperor.
It explained why there was such an overwhelming amout of statues and such in the 41st millenium. It gave examples of human life, astartes mentality and most importanly a look at HORUS!

False Gods/Galaxy in Flames:
Basically a continuation of Horus Rising. We learn more about life in the imperium. We learn about the races of the Milky Way in the past.
After reading these books I must admit I started taking Horus' side. I felt maybe Magnus didn't try to warn Horus hard enough or maybe Horus gave in to Erebus to quickly.

Flight of the Eisenstien:
Not my favorite. Felt to me like a bridge in the story (which it is) but didn't fill me in too much on Mortarion (one of my favorite primarchs). Introduced Garro, whom people seem to love for some reason.
Though the story was needed it seemed like a very long winded tale of Garro going from point a to point b to say "Hey Dorn! Your brother is flippin' crazy bro!"

Fulgrim:
Ugh. A huge book about the pretty, fancy, flamboyant Fulgrim. Having read McNeills Ultramarines novels and Storm of Iron I was a bit worried. I personally enjoyed the info on Ferrus and his legion. The chemistry between Fulgrim and Ferrus was well portrayed. I can live with a primarch choking out an Avatar but why? Why was there an Avatar there? What were the Eldar trying to achieve? "Oops forgot about stopping Horus! Finish your tea gentlemen we have to nip this Fulgrim thing in the bud before he becomes a prob- THE SWORD! OH NOOOOOES!!!"
Opera House orgy? Really?

Desent of Angels/ Fallen Angels:
I thought it was a stand alone book till Fallen Angels came out. So at first I thought it was complete crap. This book had the least amount of interest to me. I hate Dark Angels but gave it a try.
Nothing of interest save the origins of Cypher and the problems between the Lion and Luther. In the long run nothing new is really revealed. Angels of Darkness was more rewarding IMHO.

Legion:
One of the best books in the series. Most revelations. Shows us the overall story arc of the Warhammer universe. My problems were with the "Kabal" and the quick lame-duck ending. Some earlier said that Dan Abnett seems to run out of pages and just wraps it up... I can agree with that.

Battle for the Abyss:
Pointless book. Didn't even come into play in Know No Fear. No characters of note. Nothing of interest to me... and I'm an Ultramarine fanboy.

Mechanicum:
Cool book. Some neat tidbits about pre-imperial mars. The introduction of the Dragon was a bit strange to me. And I was left very confused at the ending.

Tales of Heresy/Age of Darkness:
Most of the contents has slipped from my memory. Some good short stories. I liked the clearer explaination for Angrons problems with the Emperor. The last church story was a bit weak to me but I know it has some diehard fans out there. On both of these I must have read them super fast. The spines are barely cracked.

Thousand Sons/Prospero Burns:
Fresher in my mind. I liked the info on the Thousand Sons. I could care less about Space Wolves. I felt a little letdown by these books. Magnus was a cool character but Russ wasn't much of player. And the fact they tried to shoehorn Eaters of the Dead/13th Warrior into it was a bit... stupid. Guess Abnett was looking through his Chrichton collection for insiration.

Nemesis:
Fine stand alone book. Had no real bearing on the HH as a whole other than "We won't use assassins because that's fighting dirty".

The First Heretic:
Should have been first book.

The Outcast Dead:
Worthless book. More info on Magnus screwing things up. We get it. The Emperor said no psycics for a reason... wait but didn't the Emperor admit to knowing what woul.... nevermind.
Thunderwarriors? Are they trying to tell us that the geneseed is a secret weapon to kill all space marines when they aren't needed anymore? Thats all I really got from that book.

Know No Fear:
As I said, I'm an Abnett fan and Ultramarine fanboy.
I hated this book. I wanted to read about Guilliman. He's barely in the book and all that's revealed is that he has a superb tactical mind....

The Primarchs:
Have yet to read it.

Kapitan Montag wrote:
I agree. i didn't enjoy The first two parts of 'The Primarchs'. I like the the one with the lion - although I wish they'd gone further with that story -

Spoiler:

especially where Lion goes against the Treaty of Nikea and seems to be on the verge of rejecting the Emperor. - I really wish GW would finally call that one and say that it was really Lion who turned

Once again Fulgrim, the joker of the HH. This book shook the entire series. This book is the meat and potatoes so far in the series, i dont understand how people think this book should be over looked. Vespasian comon..... Kantor comon.... Julius..... comon..... Murlocks comon....... Manus getting his had removed...... COME ON, you guys are so lame. This book had pretty much the best character list ever. Tragic things happen to all of them. And please... Eldrad shakes his head at Fulgrim, that alone made the book!

Top 3 books so far for epic scale would have to be Galaxy in flames ( where we didnt see why torgaddon die, but got an explanation as to how abaddon walks up a staircase .... wtf?) second id have to say is Fulgrim, and the best story so far with a really awesome indepth to the dark angel chapter, Decent of angels, ending was a little disappointing, but Luthor is a very important character in the 40k universe. And Zahariels story is very amazing. So many characters to love in these books.

Someone mentioned the series doesn't interest them, how can you even appreciate Warhammer without knowing its history. How can you even open a codex and be ignorant of its origin and its foundations. HH is law dammit!

Frecklesonfire wrote: ( where we didnt see why torgaddon die, but got an explanation as to how abaddon walks up a staircase .... wtf?)

I guess you mean Loken as we have a pretty decent description of Tarik getting his head cut off.

And if you mean Loken



Edit: realised my sentence made little sense.

Frecklesonfire wrote:
Top 3 books so far for epic scale would have to be Galaxy in flames ( where we didnt see why torgaddon die, but got an explanation as to how abaddon walks up a staircase .... wtf?)

What do you mean? A description of a sword slashing down at his neck and then the image of his head coming off is told from Loken's POV. What more did you need?

My only problem with that scene is that Loken drops to his knees in shock. Not a very Space Mariney thing to do, and a bit of bad writing on Counter's part.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Frecklesonfire wrote:
Top 3 books so far for epic scale would have to be Galaxy in flames ( where we didnt see why torgaddon die, but got an explanation as to how abaddon walks up a staircase .... wtf?)

What do you mean? A description of a sword slashing down at his neck and then the image of his head coming off is told from Loken's POV. What more did you need?

My only problem with that scene is that Loken drops to his knees in shock. Not a very Space Mariney thing to do, and a bit of bad writing on Counter's part.

I don't know, I think it was pretty well done honestly, it kind of showed the enormity of the event. Your closest Mournival brother being killed by your second closest Mournival brother is a big deal and shows that the Astartes aren't so removed from humanity as they would like us to think, 30k Astartes at least.

You guys dont recall the beginning of the fight, aximan and torgaddon were " an even match " , then you dont hear anything from them, next scene his head is gone.... and aximan is unscathed...

Pilau Rice wrote:

Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Frecklesonfire wrote:
Top 3 books so far for epic scale would have to be Galaxy in flames ( where we didnt see why torgaddon die, but got an explanation as to how abaddon walks up a staircase .... wtf?)

What do you mean? A description of a sword slashing down at his neck and then the image of his head coming off is told from Loken's POV. What more did you need?

My only problem with that scene is that Loken drops to his knees in shock. Not a very Space Mariney thing to do, and a bit of bad writing on Counter's part.

I don't know, I think it was pretty well done honestly, it kind of showed the enormity of the event. Your closest Mournival brother being killed by your second closest Mournival brother is a big deal and shows that the Astartes aren't so removed from humanity as they would like us to think, 30k Astartes at least.

Disagree. Space Marines are what they are because they are as far removed from humanity as they are.

These guys had hundreds of years of combat experience. Loken is a decorated captain. You might expect shock and loss of focus amongst the Imperial Army, or perhaps even brand new initiates. A veteran of hundreds of battles who has surely seen countless friends die is going to be able to resolve the action at hand, and grieve later.

It's an infusion of too much human emotion to a trans-human character. And really, an excellent example of why it's very, very difficult to write Space Marines well. It requires a writer to enter an entirely alien mindset.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Frecklesonfire wrote:You guys dont recall the beginning of the fight, aximan and torgaddon were " an even match " , then you dont hear anything from them, next scene his head is gone.... and aximan is unscathed...

I think you need to pick the book up again. I checked right after you posted.

One section details Aximund and Torgaddon fighting and ends with with "sword slashed down at his neck" (basically, I don't have it in front of me right now), and the next section begins with Loken dropping to his knees as he watches Torgaddon's head get lopped off. Heck, that portion is even included in the abridged audio-book.

With the books bringing the primarchs to life it shows how vain Fulgrim was. Ferrus being stuburn. Guiliman being more strategic. The Lion being jaded. Logar being a pansy. Horus was actually likeable. Magnus was over confident. Sanguinus was actually remarkably human in his demmeaner. Dorn as a sure leader. Kurze being cryptic. Angron nearly bloody insane. Mortarion calculating. Corax being stealth in his pursuits and determination. Russ was shown as more then simply a sort of viking. Alpharous and Omegadon were revealed as being twins and calculating. Portorabo was blunt and just bloody. The only two primarchs who haven't seen any real illumination are Vulkan, and Khan. I look foreward to seeing the books that feature them.

I'm on the first book so far, looks good. Capture the irony and sorrow of the whole affair pretty well.

Don't love them but like and read them.

Love it, its my most read Black Library series right now. I love the look at what set the universe we know and love in motion.

it's great


it is what got me into Warhammer , odd as 32


it gives me some personality to put with these characters. And of course some will not be as good as others when you have many different authors writing a series

Omegus wrote:

Pilau Rice wrote:

Pacific wrote:And finally, yes a real reason for the Heresy taking place. Has anyone else realised that we don't have one yet? And no, I'm not talking about the sword!

It would be nice to have one, yes.

I'm not not sure what happened to the 'Horus being the right ruler of the Imperium' story that has, as far as I know, always been the case. Now the Heresy is happening because he is angry and his brothers are going along for the ride. Not enough has been revealed about the what Horus has said to the other Primarchs yet and Lorgar going along with it seems a bit off too, in my opinion. Why's he even bothering to help Horus when he's got what he wants and showed every one the Chaos Gods, it's all starting to meander a bit.

Horus falling to chaos was supposed to be a by product of the Heresy, not him shaking hands with Daemons and going all Papa Shango. It was supposed to be a gradual corruption that made his ending a little more tragic not the straight out 'ha ha, look at me I am evil now, grr!'

Agreed that Horus' motivations seem strange, especially since he didn't seem overly convinced by the daemons' charade when he was catatonic. "The Emperor fears me and is jealous of me? That's ridiculous and patently false. ... Hmm, now that I think about it, why doesn't the Emperor fear me and be jealous of me? I'm the baddest mofo of them all. That bastard, I'll show him!"

It's kind of like the awful prequel Trilogy. "I want to be a Jedi hero and gain acceptance from the Masters! But wait, I'm going to decapitate some kids now. I love my wife and turn to evil to protect her, but now I'm gonna choke the bitch like Wayne Brady."

As for Lorgar, he hasn't yet really revealed the true face of Chaos to his brothers, since it's pretty horrible to those without an "evolved" understanding of it.

Well, so far as I know about the Traitor primarchs, most of them allied with Horus because they hated the Emperor more than they liked Horus (or even really gave a damn who was leading the Imperium).
Perturabo: Hated Rogal Dorn and Roboute Guilleman and hated the way his legion was treated.
Konrad Curze: Crazy and hated himself and his own legion and all his brothers and wanted to impose his "lesson" on the Imperium.
Lorgar: See my sig.
Angron: Hated the Emperor for not letting him die on his home planet and coercing him into leading his legion.
As for the others:
Mortarion, Magnus, and Fulgrim were coerced/bribed by the Chaos Gods.
Alpharius and Omegon don't really have a good reason beyond simple jealousy.
For my own part, I've been playing since second ed. and to my knowledge, Horus has always rebelled out of a deliberate choice of the Chaos gods over the Emperor.

DIDM wrote: it gives me some personality to put with these characters. And of course some will not be as good as others when you have many different authors writing a series

I don't see that having different aurthors as a problem. Given it allows others to give a brawder scope on things. Also, if you soley tasked one aurthor to write the whole series it would have been much harder on that aurthor. By giving multiple aurthors a chance to write it. It gives a better view in my opinion.

I just started reading this series so far I'm enjoying it. Not the best WH40K books I've read so far but still good non the less.

Kiryu Mk 3 wrote:

DIDM wrote: it gives me some personality to put with these characters. And of course some will not be as good as others when you have many different authors writing a series

I don't see that having different aurthors as a problem. Given it allows others to give a brawder scope on things. Also, if you soley tasked one aurthor to write the whole series it would have been much harder on that aurthor. By giving multiple aurthors a chance to write it. It gives a better view in my opinion.

yes it does

but with some being better than others, and some being light years ahead of others, well you get it right? I said you can expect some to be better than others because they are written by different people, which in my mind makes sense.