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Polonius wrote:
My problem with nearly all accusations of media bias is that they clearly suffer from observer bias. When you want to see bias, you are more likely to.

To be honest, I've come to hate the word. It feels like a lazy way of engaging a piece of information so that you don't really have to, because its biased.

Its funny, because while it certainly plays into the Conservative persecution myth, both Left and Right think the Media is against them.

Frazzled wrote:

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote: I only get rankled when the media goes after Romney playing hookey in the 3rd grade when they never discussed Obama admitted heavy use of drugs like cocaine. the double standard is quite annoying.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. Saying the Media (whatever that is) is in the tank for Obama won't save Romney.

Am I the only person who thinks Game of Thrones is boring? After episode one its been kind of a slog except for the Dothrakians. Admittedly I am only in Season One but I'm not buying the other seasons at this rate.

Just watch the last 2 episodes of season two.

I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

sirlynchmob wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote: I only get rankled when the media goes after Romney playing hookey in the 3rd grade when they never discussed Obama admitted heavy use of drugs like cocaine. the double standard is quite annoying.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. Saying the Media (whatever that is) is in the tank for Obama won't save Romney.

Am I the only person who thinks Game of Thrones is boring? After episode one its been kind of a slog except for the Dothrakians. Admittedly I am only in Season One but I'm not buying the other seasons at this rate.

Just watch the last 2 episodes of season two.

I don't know if I can make it that far. Admittedly the opening theme is pure awesome though.

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

It seems to me this is a good way of never enjoying virtually any entertainment. How do you roll this way? Do you only watch documentaries?

Polonius wrote:

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote: I only get rankled when the media goes after Romney playing hookey in the 3rd grade when they never discussed Obama admitted heavy use of drugs like cocaine. the double standard is quite annoying.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. Saying the Media (whatever that is) is in the tank for Obama won't save Romney.

My problem with nearly all accusations of media bias is that they clearly suffer from observer bias. When you want to see bias, you are more likely to.

It makes assigning any actual validity difficult, beyond a sort of gut feeling.

Here in the UK we have the BBC. The left wingers say that it's biased to the right wing and the right wingers say it's biased to the left wing.

When it's managing to piss off both sides you know it's running pretty much down the centre and the two sides just have an "If you're not with us you're against us" mindset.

Or it just represents the government's view.

Frazzled wrote:Or it just represents the government's view.

Not really, the government gets all wound up about it too. There's Murdoch's gutter trash newspapers for putting forth the governments opinion.

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Here in the UK we have the BBC. The left wingers say that it's biased to the right wing and the right wingers say it's biased to the left wing.

When it's managing to piss off both sides you know it's running pretty much down the centre and the two sides just have an "If you're not with us you're against us" mindset.

Yeah, the BBC is to Britain what CNN is to the US.

BBC has always seems less sentionalist than CNN to me. They're not dependent on advertising revenue, are they?

Mannahnin wrote:BBC has always seems less sentionalist than CNN to me. They're not dependent on advertising revenue, are they?

Everyone pays a license fee, so no they don't rely on advertising revenue.

The BBC does have a habit of not reporting on certain things that the government might find really damaging, the doctors accosting the Health secretary recently and the current workfare issues, and it's coverage of the riots and the student protests was very biased. Stuff like this is also noticeably absent from the discussion programmes such as Question Time too. There is a view that this may have to do with the Director General of the BBC having a political affiliation but the current one isn't Tory so that can't be the whole story. I suppose the fact that the government signs off any rises or cuts to the license fee may have some bearing on it. Overall though the bbc is a great institution and it's mandate as a public service with a responsibility to "educate, inform and entertain" is brilliant.

dogma wrote:

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Here in the UK we have the BBC. The left wingers say that it's biased to the right wing and the right wingers say it's biased to the left wing.

When it's managing to piss off both sides you know it's running pretty much down the centre and the two sides just have an "If you're not with us you're against us" mindset.

Yeah, the BBC is to Britain what CNN is to the US.

I hope they have better ratings!

The insistence of so many Americans that the BBC must follow the government line has never ceased to amaze me. They just figure it must, because their ideology says that's what happens, and they never seem to bother to watch the BBC to see if that's actually true.

The BBC, like our own ABC and many other media and non-media bodies around the world show that you can have a government body which is independant of government, that can challenge and control the actions of government within their mandate.

This is just a thing that's true, and easily observable, yet so many Americans insist it cannot be. Very strange.

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

Maybe, but it's a pity that history classes do their best to make history boring.

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

Bromsy wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

And boobies! GoT has boobies!

Heh.

Boobies.

LoneLictor wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

And boobies! GoT has boobies!

Heh.

Boobies.

awwwwww yeah.

Frazzled wrote:
I hope they have better ratings!

No one watches it because its not speaking to predilections of people that aren't me.

LoneLictor wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

And boobies! GoT has boobies!

Heh.

Boobies.

Not nearly as much as I thought it would for an HBO series. Much less of that and general killage than anticipated. I am Disappoint.

Frazzled wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

And boobies! GoT has boobies!

Heh.

Boobies.

Not nearly as much as I thought it would for an HBO series. Much less of that and general killage than anticipated. I am Disappoint.

Yeah, I have to say the Sopranos was a better show than GoT.

"You too ma? feth YOU fething WHORE!"

Best line in the history of all Television.

LoneLictor wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

LoneLictor wrote:

Bromsy wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

But its got Dragons, bro!

And boobies! GoT has boobies!

Heh.

Boobies.

Not nearly as much as I thought it would for an HBO series. Much less of that and general killage than anticipated. I am Disappoint.

Yeah, I have to say the Sopranos was a better show than GoT.

"You too ma? feth YOU fething WHORE!"

Best line in the history of all Television.

I can't stand HBO but will buy a series if its decent. Tru Blood is favored viewing.

sirlynchmob wrote:Because his father was Kenyan he was probably a dual citizen til he turned 18, then the US no longer recognizes dual citizenship.

Just pointing out that this is blatantly wrong. My sister was born to US parents while in England, so she was born (and remains) a dual citizen of the U.K. AND the U.S. She is 30 years old.

Frazzled wrote:I can't stand HBO but will buy a series if its decent. Tru Blood is favored viewing.

This explains so, so much... (I would like that show more if I could just get past the damn switch blade sound that their fangs make...)

(it is a terrible, trashy show)

(i watch it... )

Ouze wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I have never bothered to watch GoT because I feel real history has so much drama in it there is no need to make up a fictional version.

It seems to me this is a good way of never enjoying virtually any entertainment. How do you roll this way? Do you only watch documentaries?

All entertainment isn't sub-mediaeval fantasy fiction.

I don't watch a lot of TV, but I like SF. I pretty much gave up on fantasy years ago.

Admit it, you're really a massive closet Family Feud guy.

And the #1 answer is? Pork!