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Really no ones mentioned flayed ones yet? i cant really ever see myself using them ever.

hobojebus wrote:Really no ones mentioned flayed ones yet? i cant really ever see myself using them ever.

They still are useful for their cost. They just happen to be in an army where everythings better.

Harpies would not be so bad if they were around 100 points or had better stats, 2 attacks at WS3? They do not have the stat line to justify the cost of a Tervigon even with the new fliers rules. Their shriek rule and once a game spore bombing do not make up those extra points.

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

hobojebus wrote:Really no ones mentioned flayed ones yet? i cant really ever see myself using them ever.

They still are useful for their cost. They just happen to be in an army where everythings better.

Ah, so they're the Pariahs of the new book...

hobojebus wrote:Really no ones mentioned flayed ones yet? i cant really ever see myself using them ever.

Same as previous codex. Flayed Ones would be fantabulous as Troops. Nearly worthless as Elites.

Looted wagon.

for points equal to a trukk (35) you get... an 11 11 10 box that might go flying off into the distance at any moment. want guns? up to 2 big shootas/rokkits. and/or either a skorcha or its most useful upgrade that nearly triples its points cost, the boom gun. and it shares a FOC slot with the Battlewagon, Kans, and Dreads. (and big guns, but they are almost as useless)

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:Looted wagon.

for points equal to a trukk (35) you get... an 11 11 10 box that might go flying off into the distance at any moment. want guns? up to 2 big shootas/rokkits. and/or either a skorcha or its most useful upgrade that nearly triples its points cost, the boom gun. and it shares a FOC slot with the Battlewagon, Kans, and Dreads. (and big guns, but they are almost as useless)

Seeing as certain units lack DT's *cough*Burnas*cough*, the Looted Wagon can be a Godsend. Hardly "useless" by any stretch.

Also, Big Gunz, useless? You've smoked some bad granola hippy. Zzapp Guns maybe, but Lobbas batteries are 75pts of awesome.

I got go pyrovore over the Spawn. Atleast you can get the spawn in play without having to pay for them. ( same for rippers and spore mines)

What about Grots? The gretchin are actually intentionally designed to be a terrible unit and that is why I love those little guys. Not many units can boast of having WS 2. I guess they aren't the best choice for most useless though as they do a great job of catching bullets, filling out lists, tying down objectives, and being good for laughs. I guess they would just be the weakest unit in the game stat wise.

Weakest, maybe, but far from most useless

What about Baharroth if we use characters. He's a 200 point swooping hawk exarch with no unique weapons and a 2+save. He can soak up some bullets, but for being a phoenix lord he's worse then useless.

seapheonix wrote:What about Baharroth if we use characters. He's a 200 point swooping hawk exarch with no unique weapons and a 2+save. He can soak up some bullets, but for being a phoenix lord he's worse then useless.

Is he worse than Old One Eye at 60 points more?

Deadshot wrote:

Testi for the cost of a FA fy wrote:Harpies. Ugh.

Harpes are.really good.in 6th ed

I'll tell you what suck, Rippers, Skyslashers and Spore Mines.

The 1st is a troops swarm that can't claim objectives and is completely useless. At least it is cheap troops to open the other slots. The second is the same but flies. But is FA so the one reason to take them is invalid. The 3rd are suicide bombers who do weak damage for a FA slot. You give up Shrikes, or Harpies now who can make their own spore mines.

Rippers and Skyslashers are pretty nasty when you give them toxin sacs. 5 Poisoned attacks on the charge and they'll bog the enemy down pretty well. I would still never take them. Spore mines are good for area denial though. Harpies just don't have the weapons to be worth 150 points, even with their new durability.

With the changes introduced in 6th ed, I'm going to say Howling Banshees take the cake for Eldar at least.

If you run up the board, they die since they are S3 T3 4+ save and will get focus fired if they get too close. They have power swords, so AP3, making them useless against terminators. They have 1 attack base +1 for 2 weapons, and if you put them in a wave serpent, they can't assault from it, so have to spend a turn in the open before charging.

Assuming they do make it in to combat, they are still S3 T3 4+ no invuln, so you are wounding most armies on a 5+ and getting wounded on a 3+. Not so awesome.

Ascalam wrote:DE Mandrakes - awesome models...that will never see play

+1 and I own 15 of them.

I vote for the furies of chaos or beasts of nurgle, I just can't decide.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:Aun'va wins. No one even compares to the pointlessness that is the Space Pope.

Bobug wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:Aun'va wins. No one even compares to the pointlessness that is the Space Pope.

why did i imagine this in my head.

[in darth vader's voice] You cannot imagine the pointlessness of the space pope.

Oh and for useless my vote goes to.......Ripper swarms.

Big Mek Dattrukk wrote:Looted wagon.

for points equal to a trukk (35) you get... an 11 11 10 box that might go flying off into the distance at any moment. want guns? up to 2 big shootas/rokkits. and/or either a skorcha or its most useful upgrade that nearly triples its points cost, the boom gun. and it shares a FOC slot with the Battlewagon, Kans, and Dreads. (and big guns, but they are almost as useless)

big gunz are awesome they survive a logn time to shooting you just have to make sure they don't get assaulted.

artillaryu are now T7 with 2 wounds and 3+ armor if you run bikes at all like i do then kannons have a definate place in your list now

EnormousName wrote:I vote for the furies of chaos or beasts of nurgle, I just can't decide.

Beasts of nurgle at least have a place in an Epidemus list.

Furies have no place Anywhere in CD.

Wrakkar wrote:Why does chaos have useless units? Surely one of the god's noticed...

It is all Khorne's fault. He really doesn't care where the blood or the skulls come from: The enemy or his own forces. They are all just as good to him.

Skriker

One word: Landraider. ROFL!

Conscripts.

Flash Gitz aren't useless, like many ork units they require some fun luck. I rolled AP of 1,1,2,3 with them last week, they destroyed.

My vote is ethereals. I want to make a tau army and they interest me, but they need a damn use.