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blood lance wrote:Loyalist wise I'm not too sure. Vulkan is MIA and supposedly will return when the Salamanders find his car keys.

Haha, that's the best way I'd heard this put.

But if there was a big mashup, I'm pretty sure Chaos Primarchs would win...especially since they have all of their normal power ALONG with their new Chaotic powers. But don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the Loyalists!

Angron the most dangerous? Fulgrim toasted 2 primarchs.One who killed another primarch. Just saying.

And Russ beat Magnus. Whine however you like about it being "unfair" but his chumps couldn't keep up with the wolves. Russ would have killed him had he not escaped into the warp. He did get some measure of revenge when he smashed into Fenris and squashed all the research into stabilizing the SW geneseed. Was defeated again, though it took about half a dozen of the space wolves characters, including their great wolf. But the Thousand Sons were decimated in the process.

Which is a big difference between the Primarchs and the Daemon Primarchs- the Chaos primarchs don't care much for the cost their followers pay whereas the loyalists will give everything for their primarchs who do not spend them lightly. It is why the Emperor's Children, who have arguably the most deadly primarch, are nothing but rare, scattered warbands. Chaos broke the legions just as much as the Imperium did.

Really, it depends. If, say, Sanguinius were to fight Mortarion, Loyalist victory. If Ferrus Manus were to fight Horus, Chaos victory.

If you're on about the loyalist's most skilled Primarch vs. the traitor's most skilled primarch, well... we all know what happened that time.
As for other instances of two Primarchs matching up, the only ones I can think of from the top of my head is Fulgrim killing Ferrus Manus, Corax being about to kill Lorgar (got stopped because Konrad Curze stepped in and was about to surround him with a bunch of chaos legions) and Fulgrim pretty much putting Gulliman in a coma.

The easiest way to decide who's gonna win is to look and see who has more fluff.

Great White wrote:The easiest way to decide who's gonna win is to look and see who has more fluff.

Well, the raven guard have the least fluff of all the first founding chapters, but Corax noticably outmatches at least Lorgar in combat, plus the ultramarines have considerably more fluff than any other chapter, but Gulliman got all but killed by Fulgrim.

jmurph wrote:Angron the most dangerous? Fulgrim toasted 2 primarchs.One who killed another primarch. Just saying.

And Russ beat Magnus. Whine however you like about it being "unfair" but his chumps couldn't keep up with the wolves. Russ would have killed him had he not escaped into the warp. He did get some measure of revenge when he smashed into Fenris and squashed all the research into stabilizing the SW geneseed. Was defeated again, though it took about half a dozen of the space wolves characters, including their great wolf. But the Thousand Sons were decimated in the process.

Which is a big difference between the Primarchs and the Daemon Primarchs- the Chaos primarchs don't care much for the cost their followers pay whereas the loyalists will give everything for their primarchs who do not spend them lightly. It is why the Emperor's Children, who have arguably the most deadly primarch, are nothing but rare, scattered warbands. Chaos broke the legions just as much as the Imperium did.

Agree - Russ kicks Magnus any day of the week - Russ had dirty fighting ,Magnus had F**** POWER OF THE WARP - nuff said
And I'think Lorgar is now a badass,Corax would be suprised if they clashed now


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Sharkvictim wrote:Magnus could take all of the loyalist primarchs on his worst day, if you take all of the allegiances out of it. He was reluctant to fight Russ, after all. He would have beat him senseless and then fileted his spirit and fed it to warp beasts.

Russ beat him fairly. Magnus went all out on him with psychic attacks, but Russ endured it and managed to kick Magnus' ass.

1. I hardly think that accidentally punching someone in the eye while flailing wildly because they're in the process of pulling your heart out of your ribcage counts as either a fair victory or kicking their ass.

2. Magnus was also psychically stopping the fight on the rest of the planet and getting attacked by a bunch of Space Wolves while he fought Russ IIRC, so that hardly counts as being able to go all out against him.

Anyhow, the power of Chaos was enough to make Luther, who wasn't a even a true Space Marine, strong enough to match, or almost match, a primarch, and the only recorded battle between a primarch and daemon primarch has the daemon primarch as the victor.

Well thats just stupid - Magnus lost- Russ tore him apart - and there isn't prize for 2nd place - End of story
Btw they changed old codex(where Russ hit's Magnus tacticaly in the aye) so that fight looks more tense


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