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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Now these new rumors come from my cousin's girlfriend who once spent a semester in England so you know these are good!

77 - The Secret Wing have a special strategy called 'Penetrate the Rear'. You must be 18 or older to be told how 'Penetrate the Rear' works.

78 - 'Penetrate the Rear' has no adverse affect on Eldar or Slanneshi armies.

79 - DA Rhinos and Razorbacks are replaced by new APCs called the Bison and the Boar. The Bison and the Boar have the same profile as the Rhino and Razorback but look totally different. DA players must replace all their vehicles to be WYSIWYG.

80 - DA wear black armor now.

81 - The real reason they wear dresses is finally reviled! You know that Battle Sisters codex we've all been waiting for... THIS IS IT!

Irony is, that all can happen....

82: The DA win every honour trial they hold against the Space Wolves in fluff. They get Preferred Enemy: Space Wolves.

83. No need to deploy your forces, DA always win because of the 1+ inv every model has and all weapons are AP 1.

84. Before every game, the DA player must roll to see if his army turns to chaos, requiring another army list and the Chaos codex.

85. Cypher will finally meet the Emperor, they will shake hands, and the physical strain will kill the Emperor, requiring Cypher to cover it all up and act like nothing happened, like Weekend At Bernie's.

86: Plot twist, Cypher is the Emperor's son.

87: A hidden message in the background reveals that Cypher is actually not the Emperor's son. The DA's new secret is that the Emperor is in fact Cypher's son. Cypher being a time travelling Old One shaman from ancient Terra leading up to the creation of the Emperor in his current form. Following the War in Heaven, Cypher and a handful of Old Ones genetically altered themselves to appear human so that they could subtly guide humanity through the ages. Their current plan will reveal the star child and lead to not the destruction of the Chaos Gods, but their enslavement to Cypher's Empire.

So I just talked to my buddy whose the guy who told me that the 6th edition rule book would by 50% recycled art and that there'd be a price hike this year so I know he has an inside source.

88 - Cypher is actually a C'tan!

89 - Ravenwing now wear white armor, Deathwing wear black. Armies must be in the correct color for tournaments.

90 - Cypher is actually a Daemon!

91 - DA may not use drop pods, instead they use Hellbore tunnelers. Hellbores have the same stats as drop pods but are different models. You must buy Hellbores to play in tournaments.

92 - Cypher is actually an Eldar!

93 - Due to a cut and paste error Deathwing now cost 1 point and have 50 wounds. GW says they will correct this in the next codex, due sometime in 8th edition.

94 - Cypher is actually an ork!

95 - Company Captains have been renamed Rear Admirals. There is no explanation for this in the text. When asked Mat Ward just giggled.

95 - Cypher is actually Draigo!

96 - A new wargear item gives models a 2++ against daemons and psykers. It's a lair of protective runes scribed in pure nun blood. They are called Matte Wards.

97 - Cypher does not exist!

98 - The dark secret of the Dark Angels is finally reviled. When Lion El Johnson returned to Caliban after the Horus Heresy everyone was confused because they'd painted their armor green instead of black so they figured it was the Death Guard so Luther attacked. Once things were sorted out Luther was so embarssed he took off into space and changed his name to Cypher.

99 - Cypher is actually Squat Enginseer Grimm!

100 - the new codex contains 43% more homosexual innuendo than the last one.

101- Cypher is really Matt Ward!

That is pure gold, Kid_Kyoto. And canon.

OK I know some of these rumors are a bit far out, but I can see them happeneing.

102 - The new DA book will be more expensive than the last one.

103 - But will still have recycled art.

104 - Several older models will be rereleased, but now in Finecast!

105 - The codex will either be grossly overpowered or grossly underpowered, my sources was not sure.

106 - Rules for the Fallen will either be grossly overpowered or a lackluster after thought. Or maybe absent. My source was unclear.

107 - There will be a new special character in Finecast! Maybe more than one!

108 - the new codex will not only have rules for tactical marines, but also for assault and devetator marines and even scouts!

Special Rules

And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Stubborn, Hunt the Fallen!

Hunt the Fallen: The enemy warlord has information on the location of The Fallen, or is a member of The Fallen itself! The Dark Angels must always issue at least one challenge against the enemy Warlord in any combat where possible. The challenging character counts as fearless, feel no pain and preferred enemy (Fallen) for the duration of the challenge.

Deathwing Assault: As now but: "Deathwing are masters of teleport insertion. Deep Striking Deathwing Units that arrive on the first turn do not scatter."

Army Composition

A Deathwing HQ or Deathwing Character as your army's Warlord makes Deathwing Tactical Squads Troops, and allows the use of Deathwing Assault and Deathwing Support squads.

A Ravenwing HQ or Ravenwing Special Character as your army's Warlord allows for Ravenwing Tactical Groups as Troops, and allows the use of Ravenwing Jetbike Squads and Ravenwing Air Support Groups.

HQ: Azrael, Belial, Sammael (in Bike, Jetbike, Land Speeder and Stormtalon forms), Ezekiel, Asmodai (now Master Interrogator after the death of Sapphon by Cypher's hand), Lord-Interrogator, Deathwing Hero, Ravenwing Hero, Company Master, Librarian.

Retinues:

Lion Guard (Azrael, Company Master): Includes Standard Bearer

Deathwing Command Squad (Belial, Deathwing Hero)

Ravenwing Command Squad (Sammael, Ravenwing Hero)

Interrogators (Asmodai, Lord-Interrogator)

Librarian Conclave (Ezekiel, Librarian). Brotherhood of Psykers. Unique fear and leadership-based psychic discipline.

Members of retinues (except Librarian Conclave) can split off to lead other squads.

Elites:

Deathwing Tactical Squad: Troops with a Deathwing Warlord. 5-10. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Power Fists / Storm Bolters. Can take Chainfists. 1 Special Weapon per 5 members (Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Cyclone, Thunder Hammer / Storm Shield, Plasma Cannon)

Deathwing Assault Squad: Restricted without a Deathwing Warlord. 5-10. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Thunderhammer / Stormshields or Twin Lightning Claws or Power Weapons / Storm Bolters.

Dreadnought. DCCW/Missile Launcher and Multimelta/Flamestorm Cannon/TL Heavy Bolter/TL Autocannon/Plasma Cannon/Assault Cannon/TL Lascannon

Techmarines w/ Servitors

Enclave Veterans: Highly customisable unit

Ravenwing Jetbike Squads: Restricted unless you have a Ravenwing Warlord

Troops:

Tactical Squad. Can take two special weapons, two heavy weapons, or one of each.

Scout Squad: Can take Land Speeder Storm as transport. Can not be used to fulfil minimum troop choice requirements.

Dedicated Transports:

Rhino

Razorback: With optional plasma cannon turret

Land Raider / Crusader / Redeemer (for Deathwing Units)

Fast Attack

Assault Squad: Can take one or two plasma pistols per model

Ravenwing Tactical Group: Troops with a Ravenwing Warlord. Fearless. 3-6 Bikes. 0-2 Attack Bikes

Ravenwing Support Squadron: 1-5 Land Speeders

Stormtalon. Cannot be chosen with a Ravenwing Warlord.

Heavy Support

Devastator Squad: Counts plasma cannons as twin linked. Can upgrade missile launchers with flakk ammo.

Land Raider / Crusader / Redeemer / Ares

Predator (With Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Executioner Cannon Turret options)

Whirlwind

Whirlwind Hyperios

Vindictor

Mortiis Dreadnought

Deathwing Support Squad: Restricted without a Deathwing Warlord. 5 members. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Storm Bolters / Power Fists. Up to 4 members may upgrade to Assault Cannons / Heavy Flamers / Cyclone Missile Launchers / Plasma Cannons.

Ravenwing Air Support Squadron: Restricted without a Ravenwing Warlord. 1 Stormtalon and 0-2 Land Speeder Tempest

Sorry, were the suggestions supposed to be stupid?

GCMandrake wrote:

Sorry, were the suggestions supposed to be stupid?

Nah just made up and fictional.

I think the bit about DAs getting Know No Fear and Combat Squads was a bit too unlikely though.

109 - this is the most thouroughly playtested codex in GW history, with over 3 playtest games before it went to the printer.

110 - Two of those playtest games used to gather interesting parts for the WD battle report for the release issue. The third ending halfway when the team broke up for lunch.

He said over 3.... so maybe Game 4 was set up for the WD photo shoot.

GCMandrake wrote:Special Rules

And They Shall Know No Fear, Combat Squads, Stubborn, Hunt the Fallen!

Hunt the Fallen: The enemy warlord has information on the location of The Fallen, or is a member of The Fallen itself! The Dark Angels must always issue at least one challenge against the enemy Warlord in any combat where possible. The challenging character counts as fearless, feel no pain and preferred enemy (Fallen) for the duration of the challenge.

Deathwing Assault: As now but: "Deathwing are masters of teleport insertion. Deep Striking Deathwing Units that arrive on the first turn do not scatter."

Army Composition

A Deathwing HQ or Deathwing Character as your army's Warlord makes Deathwing Tactical Squads Troops, and allows the use of Deathwing Assault and Deathwing Support squads.

A Ravenwing HQ or Ravenwing Special Character as your army's Warlord allows for Ravenwing Tactical Groups as Troops, and allows the use of Ravenwing Jetbike Squads and Ravenwing Air Support Groups.

HQ: Azrael, Belial, Sammael (in Bike, Jetbike, Land Speeder and Stormtalon forms), Ezekiel, Asmodai (now Master Interrogator after the death of Sapphon by Cypher's hand), Lord-Interrogator, Deathwing Hero, Ravenwing Hero, Company Master, Librarian.

Retinues:

Lion Guard (Azrael, Company Master): Includes Standard Bearer

Deathwing Command Squad (Belial, Deathwing Hero)

Ravenwing Command Squad (Sammael, Ravenwing Hero)

Interrogators (Asmodai, Lord-Interrogator)

Librarian Conclave (Ezekiel, Librarian). Brotherhood of Psykers. Unique fear and leadership-based psychic discipline.

Members of retinues (except Librarian Conclave) can split off to lead other squads.

Elites:

Deathwing Tactical Squad: Troops with a Deathwing Warlord. 5-10. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Power Fists / Storm Bolters. Can take Chainfists. 1 Special Weapon per 5 members (Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Cyclone, Thunder Hammer / Storm Shield, Plasma Cannon)

Deathwing Assault Squad: Restricted without a Deathwing Warlord. 5-10. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Thunderhammer / Stormshields or Twin Lightning Claws or Power Weapons / Storm Bolters.

Dreadnought. DCCW/Missile Launcher and Multimelta/Flamestorm Cannon/TL Heavy Bolter/TL Autocannon/Plasma Cannon/Assault Cannon/TL Lascannon

Techmarines w/ Servitors

Enclave Veterans: Highly customisable unit

Ravenwing Jetbike Squads: Restricted unless you have a Ravenwing Warlord

Troops:

Tactical Squad. Can take two special weapons, two heavy weapons, or one of each.

Scout Squad: Can take Land Speeder Storm as transport. Can not be used to fulfil minimum troop choice requirements.

Dedicated Transports:

Rhino

Razorback: With optional plasma cannon turret

Land Raider / Crusader / Redeemer (for Deathwing Units)

Fast Attack

Assault Squad: Can take one or two plasma pistols per model

Ravenwing Tactical Group: Troops with a Ravenwing Warlord. Fearless. 3-6 Bikes. 0-2 Attack Bikes

Ravenwing Support Squadron: 1-5 Land Speeders

Stormtalon. Cannot be chosen with a Ravenwing Warlord.

Heavy Support

Devastator Squad: Counts plasma cannons as twin linked. Can upgrade missile launchers with flakk ammo.

Land Raider / Crusader / Redeemer / Ares

Predator (With Plasma Cannon Sponsons and Executioner Cannon Turret options)

Whirlwind

Whirlwind Hyperios

Vindictor

Mortiis Dreadnought

Deathwing Support Squad: Restricted without a Deathwing Warlord. 5 members. Fearless. Deathwing Assault. Storm Bolters / Power Fists. Up to 4 members may upgrade to Assault Cannons / Heavy Flamers / Cyclone Missile Launchers / Plasma Cannons.

Ravenwing Air Support Squadron: Restricted without a Ravenwing Warlord. 1 Stormtalon and 0-2 Land Speeder Tempest

Sorry, were the suggestions supposed to be stupid?

Don't make me dream damn it.

You guys left out a few things I have had confirmed by my friend's neighbor who knew this guy who recognized a picture of Andy Chambers.

111. The Deathwing can now have plasma guns and plasma cannon
112. Lion El'Johnson will come out. The whole time he's been that Watcher hanging at Azrael's behind.
113. A Deathwing Land Raider is now a skimmer.
114. If the Deathwing Deep Strikes it may assault if behind the enemy's unit.

115. Cypher is Bruce Wayne, and will appear in the next movie, disguised at Batman.
116. Dark Angels love of plasma weaponry knows no limit. A tactical squad can take up to 5 plasma guns. However, if 3 or more get hot in the same round, the entire squad is lost with no saving throws allowed as all of the plasma canisters ignite and create a mini-supernove, or DAnova, as we will be later calling it.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:OK I know some of these rumors are a bit far out, but I can see them happeneing.

102 - The new DA book will be more expensive than the last one.

103 - But will still have recycled art.

104 - Several older models will be rereleased, but now in Finecast!

105 - The codex will either be grossly overpowered or grossly underpowered, my sources was not sure.

106 - Rules for the Fallen will either be grossly overpowered or a lackluster after thought. Or maybe absent. My source was unclear.

107 - There will be a new special character in Finecast! Maybe more than one!

108 - the new codex will not only have rules for tactical marines, but also for assault and devetator marines and even scouts!

They have already accomplished the special characters in finecast, the rest are saddly believable

There is no DA codex, instead its the vanilla marines book with DA cover art!

akaean wrote:There is no DA codex, instead its the vanilla marines book with DA cover art!

HAHA yup yup! This one says it all. Made my day.

Buttons wrote:

PresidentOfAsia wrote:11. Dark Angels become all emo and stuff and cut them selves(the name "dark angels" sound like a username of one those 2006 emo deviantart users)

The Dark Angel is a poem written by a homosexual poet named Lionel Johnson about homosexuality.

I'm told it's a reference to Johnson's struggle with his sexuality and his faith rather than simply about homosexuals...
Which sums up the Dark Angels pretty well...

This just in, No more Deathwing or Ravenwing! Just "Wardwing", which is both combined. Must be painted the colour of sheer pain to be used in tournaments; it can be obtained either by looking at GW prices or at how Mat destroys fluff - some say it is the sacred scarlet red of spilt SoB blood...

The Dark Angel Power Swords are now Fighter Jets

Lio El'Johnson is really Cypher, who.is really the Emperor, who is really Draigo, who is really Mat Ward who is really not real!

Watchers in the Dark are a new HQ. An inside source tells me that they're stat-line is WS 7 BS 10 S 3 T 6 W 4 I 8 A 4 Ld 13 Sv 1+/1++ and have super power weapons that are AP 1 and get to reroll all failed hits. They all have Psychic GUNZ that fire little psychic Orks who eat others and count as S D AP 1 Assault 120. This is not considered heresy as Azrael and the Grand Master of the Inquisition had a very special night in Paris once

akaean wrote:There is no DA codex, instead its the vanilla marines book with DA cover art!

I like it

Let's flesh it out a bit.

121 - GW listens to its fans! After all the complaints about too many marine books the new DA book will have fluff and art but the rules section is just a cut and paste of Codex Space Marines. Terminator squads are renamed Deathwing, bike squads are renamed Ravenwing, Calgar is renamed Azrael etc.

122 - Due to a cut and paste error tactical marines are equipped with lascannons. In a 10 man squad one model may trade his lascannon for a bolter for 25 points.

Deadshot wrote:Lio El'Johnson is really Cypher, who.is really the Emperor, who is really Draigo, who is really Mat Ward who is really not real!

Who is really Alpharius

123 - At the beginning of any game with allies roll a d6.
1 - A-Ward. You may upgrade any allied model with any wargear from the Dark Angel codex for free. Don't worry about any combinations being too strong, it's the emperors will!
2 - Power Creep. All Models in your army get +1 WS and BS for each codex that's older than their own.
3 - Stolen Relic. The Dark Angels believe that their allies have stolen a relic of their primarch. The entire army opens fire on the most expensive allied unit.
4 - They know our secrets! Your allies have found out your dark secret, and don't care about it. They must still die. Dark Angels must shoot their allies as long as any are alive.
5 - Jokes about robes. Every allied unit has to make a leadership test. If they fail, the squad leader makes a joke about marines wearing skirts. Resolve an orbital strike against each unit that failed the test.
6 - It's Cypher! Determine a character at random, including all friendly and enemy models but your own warlord. As long as that model is allive, all Dark Angels must shoot that model, firing twice as many shots, ignoring range and LoS limitations.

I just wanna say I would happily play any codex that includes these 123 rumors.

124- Lion El'Johnson Awakens! Lion El has returned to the galaxy and has 10 in all stats. He also has the special rule Protect the Secret. Roll a D6 in secret at the beginning of each game. If you roll a 3+ then pack up your army and leave without a word. Return twenty minutes later with a Subway Avacado sandwich. Put it on the table and say "Never mention Cancun." Promptly leave for good and never return to the gaming store or group that you started at