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Just to keep things fun and interesting, these are the emails that arrived in my inbox since I asked a mod to remove my review:

Email 1:

I have seen the bs dakka thread.

All I want to say is I have your review saved so removing it to make it appear no one has ever gotten a kit is a waste of time.

In total there are 16 reviews of the kit on the net with over 75 people that have gotten them. I have had problems keeping with demand and have always sent refunds as soon as they are requested over the items.

I am not Daniel, and its slowed of you people to think that.

That is all I will say on the matter.

Good day.

--
Daniel - Three Stage Studios
http://www.threestagestudios.com

Email 2:

Am Daniel.

God damn autocorrect.

Either way, having your review removed simply makes it appear on your forum no one has gotten them yet all the reviews scattered about the net say other wise.

Enjoy your night.


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:

I have seen the bs dakka thread.

All I want to say is I have your review saved so removing it to make it appear no one has ever gotten a kit is a waste of time.

In total there are 16 reviews of the kit on the net with over 75 people that have gotten them. I have had problems keeping with demand and have always sent refunds as soon as they are requested over the items.

I am not Daniel, and its slowed of you people to think that.

That is all I will say on the matter.

Good day.

--
Daniel - Three Stage Studios
http://www.threestagestudios.com


--
Daniel - Three Stage Studios
http://www.threestagestudios.com

Email 3:

While you are at it, tell Ritides his advice about paypal...

Tell him thats HALF right.

If a real scammer wants to scam, they simply remove the money from paypal. Then when the dispute is started, and the buyer wins the claim, paypal emails them saying "you won the case but there are no funds to withdraw". The buyer then gets nothing and was scammed.

To stop that people MUST use a CREDIT CARD to do a charge back as thats the only 100% way to get the money back.

Please go tell him that as hes giving bad advice to people who might really deal with a scammer. I on the other hand refund people when they ask. Even as in your case, way after 45 days.

Email 4:

Oh yea that's right, you and all the people from when you ordered got your items.

Now you make it seem as if you didn't.

Id laugh but this is not funny.

Email 5:

http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/05/customer-review-up-as-well-as-info.html

Im glad I saved your review and pictures before you guys "redacted it".

I wont let dakka make me look worse then things already are. Acussing me of this or that, removing reviews to make it seem like no one has ever gotten anything.. I wont play games like that.


--
Daniel - Three Stage Studios
http://www.threestagestudios.com

If a real scammer wants to scam, they simply remove the money from paypal. Then when the dispute is started, and the buyer wins the claim, paypal emails them saying "you won the case but there are no funds to withdraw". The buyer then gets nothing and was scammed.

Umm, no. There are 3 ways to withdraw money from paypal: bank transfer, check, or added to the Paypal Mastercard. With the bank and Mastercard, Paypal will most definitely charge you the money to cover a refund or lost dispute. And if they can't take the money that way, they will put a negative balance on the account until it is payed off.

It helps to know what the hell you are talking about "Daniel". Paypal won't be screwed out of their money, and they don't deny people refunds. I've never heard of that happening in my 7 years of using it.

Also, since we know you are reading this thread, if you honestly have trouble keeping up with demand, step 1 would have been to email EVERY customer explaining that you have X orders to fill and each one takes Y time to complete, giving the customers and estimated shipping date of Z. That's called customer service 101 and covering your ass.

So even if you aren't RSO, you clearly suck at business. Your customers do deserve to know that before they buy.

Hosting my review and posting pictures that I own the copyright to on his side?

No problem, DMCA Takedown Notice send to Google


Automatically Appended Next Post:
And reply:

Good luck on that.


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Marcus Kesler <redacted> wrote:

DMCA takedown notice for infringing on my copyright send to your webhost.



From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Marcus Kesler <redacted> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:36 PM
Subject:



http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/05/customer-review-up-as-well-as-info.html

Im glad I saved your review and pictures before you guys "redacted it".

I wont let dakka make me look worse then things already are. Acussing me of this or that, removing reviews to make it seem like no one has ever gotten anything.. I wont play games like that.


--
Daniel - Three Stage Studios
http://www.threestagestudios.com

....you know, as an entrepreneur myself I'd be ashamed to send emails with such poor english in them to my customers. I mean my grammar isn't the best in the universe but goddess forsake some of that's just rough.

I find it funny when people like this think that Dakka is some evil interwebz place that is out to destroy them. How many positive reviews of legitimate upstarts are on this site? How many Kickstarters got crap tons of funding from us here?

We have no problems with garage upstarts provided they are legitimate and operate with decency. But yes, we are quite protective of other hobbyists when dealing with ANYONE getting scammed. We don't start bashing on people or companies without evidence.

Even in character, he can't help himself- calling me out but not the 3 mods who posted the same advice before me . Must have forgotten that Matt and I have history, not Daniel.

Either way, from the obit site that name is legit, and apparently one he can't mess up without repercussions, based on his resolving Paypal disputes thus far.

Regardless, his communications make it clear why you would never, ever want to deal with this person. Trying to hold a customer review hostage? Give me a break!

Wish i could post last few messages from TSS from my phone but alas cannot...needless to say his remotes to my email were attacking and he let me know that he had proof he had mailed my stuff as well as refunding my money . I asked for the taking number and got an email calling me as a-hole for posting my 'attacks' aftergetting my money back 4 months after i paid for threatsomething i never received.
Whoever Daniel is has no business being in business ..i feel if he is legit ish the sts of actually making and delivering product is to much for him.
I ordered a soon add i saw the review on BOLS...i logged around and saw a review here and on another forum and thought it was legit.
As a consumer of lil plastic dudes men I've ordered from all over the world with no problems.
I am grateful to have my money back...at least for the next 43 days until TSS follows through on his last threat to send an email from Paypal....that made me laugh add i will have all of or communication in a file ready to send to Paypal saying this guy is full of gak and didn't follow through with my transaction..
Anyways..
Fellas, its been allot of fun and if anyone has a link to a real business doing true scale terminators i have some money to give them

RiTides wrote:Even in character, he can't help himself- calling me out but not the 3 mods who posted the same advice before me . Must have forgotten that Matt and I have history, not Daniel.

Either way, from the obit site that name is legit, and apparently one he can't mess up without repercussions, based on his resolving Paypal disputes thus far.

Regardless, his communications make it clear why you would never, ever want to deal with this person. Trying to hold a customer review hostage? Give me a break!

"If you don't stop doing this, I'll edit the original content!"

"Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-"

Aerethan wrote:

If a real scammer wants to scam, they simply remove the money from paypal. Then when the dispute is started, and the buyer wins the claim, paypal emails them saying "you won the case but there are no funds to withdraw". The buyer then gets nothing and was scammed.

Umm, no. There are 3 ways to withdraw money from paypal: bank transfer, check, or added to the Paypal Mastercard. With the bank and Mastercard, Paypal will most definitely charge you the money to cover a refund or lost dispute. And if they can't take the money that way, they will put a negative balance on the account until it is payed off.

It helps to know what the hell you are talking about "Daniel". Paypal won't be screwed out of their money, and they don't deny people refunds. I've never heard of that happening in my 7 years of using it.

I can attest, as can a perusal of older Bad Trader Reports on Dakka, that PayPal is NOT your friend when it comes to empty accounts. If an account has a zero balance, they WILL try to not give you any money. You'll get the notice that "Good news - We decided in your favor but, BAD News - There's no money in the account, so you'll be paid as soon as sufficient funds are present." It happens.

What you need to do in that case, is throw a fit. Tell them you want your money or you'll complain to the BBB. You also need to remind them of their own TOS, which lets you know that they reserve the right to debit whatever accounts you've set up on PayPal (Banks, Credit Cards, etc.) if your account should go negative. --That's obviously not the exact wording, mind you. LOL

Whenever I've suggested to people that they respond in that manner, and they follow that suggestion, PayPal's had a sudden change of heart and given them the money.


Eric

Squeaky wheel gets the grease, especially when that wheel has what sounds like actual knowledge of the TOS and says they're gonna call the BBB or a similar organization that might have lawyers.

RiTides wrote:Even in character, he can't help himself- calling me out but not the 3 mods who posted the same advice before me . Must have forgotten that Matt and I have history, not Daniel.

Either way, from the obit site that name is legit, and apparently one he can't mess up without repercussions, based on his resolving Paypal disputes thus far.

Regardless, his communications make it clear why you would never, ever want to deal with this person. Trying to hold a customer review hostage? Give me a break!

Wow Im amazed he never get angry at me despite me constantly catching him year after year.
Am i scary to him

Yes, he fears your patron goddess

KalashnikovMarine wrote:Yes, he fears your patron goddess

Patron goddess? Gotta say, the thought of that scares me, too. Probably not for the same reason, I'm guessing.

Breotan wrote:

KalashnikovMarine wrote:Yes, he fears your patron goddess

Patron goddess? Gotta say, the thought of that scares me, too. Probably not for the same reason, I'm guessing.

Depends on how you feel about My Little Pony I suppose.

Sure he's scared of Luna for good reason, everyone knows that on the Internet all girls that post are actually big hairy bikers called Neville who want to get n touch with their feminine side.

A few dollars ain't worth that turning up on your door step.

Daniel Mandelbaum : I couldn't figure out why that name kept sounding familiar. Then it hit me today as I was driving. Mandelbaum is the name that would come up on my caller id when ever Matthew Bonder would call. Then when I drove to dumbass' apt. a couple of years ago to get my money or models, that's when I met Michael Mandelbaum, Matthew's supposed stepdad. Who, ironically knew nothing about Sarah's terminal illness. Don't know how much more proof anyone else needs, but I knew it was him before I typed this.

PS
Hi Matthew! You suck!

Wasn't there a Daniel running Miniature Wargames Conversions?

Howard A Treesong wrote:Wasn't there a Daniel running Miniature Wargames Conversions?

I thought that one was "Damion" or something.

This whole ordeal is like watching a show that is terrible, but the studio refuses to cancel it.

At the same time, it's like watching a train wreck. I can't look away.

Got my reply from Google today:

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

In accordance with the DMCA, we have completed processing your
infringement complaint and the content in question no longer appears on
the following URL:

http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/05/customer-review-up-as-well-as-info.html

Please let us know if we can assist you further.

Regards,

The Google Team

HA! that's awesome. It's the little wins that make it all worth while.

DCMA pwnage, nice

First time I've ever been PLEASED by one of those, kinda odd feeling ain't it?

d-usa wrote:Got my reply from Google today:

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

In accordance with the DMCA, we have completed processing your
infringement complaint and the content in question no longer appears on
the following URL:

http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/2012/05/customer-review-up-as-well-as-info.html

Please let us know if we can assist you further.

Regards,

The Google Team

Awesome!

Of course he just tells me that he will continue to break the law:

My reply: No problem, try to host it on other sites. A "private site" still utilizes a webhost, and they will continue to receive DMCA takedown notices for violations of my copyright.

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Marcus Kesler <redact>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:15 PM
Subject: Re:

Google emailed me as well. They told me to simply move it off site, didnt delete it and saved it for me as an html file to do just that. They also said I can freely link to said review hosted on a private site.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
Good luck on that.


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Marcus Kesler <redact> wrote:
DCMA takedown notice for infringing on my copyright send to your webhost.

Sad thing is that stupid copyright violations get acted on more quickly and severely than serial mail fraud

Sigh....this guy again? Gods doesn't he realize the internet is frelling archive? Just pile up more evidence you half wit....

The wonderful thing is that he doesn't know when to stop digging his hole. Fortunately copyright infringement is taken more serious by the authorities than mail fraud, which is a sad testament of our country as well...

d-usa wrote:The wonderful thing is that he doesn't know when to stop digging his hole. Fortunately copyright infringement is taken more serious by the authorities than mail fraud, which is a sad testament of our country as well...

Has anyone contacted LEGO about that whole copyright infringement thing concerning the Knight head? That one is some of the most blatant claiming of someone else's work as your own I've ever seen. At least recasters don't claim to have created the originals.

Also, googling Three stage studios comes up with this thread as well as:

http://www.scambook.com/report/view/141241/three-stage-studios-Complaint-141241-for-$56.00

That complaint was 4 months ago, so that's fun.

Well, just in case, I sent the following email thru the LEGO site(couldn't find the direct email for their legal department sadly, if you have it please let me know, and send a letter of your own if you can):

I couldn't find the email for your legal department, so here's hoping that you can forward this to the appropriate person.

I'm emailing you to notify you of the copyright infringement of a piece of a Bionicle kit that is being reproduced without permission from LEGO. The piece in question is the head in the top middle of this picture:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jLjmfRoaZMs/SpdrVbw3J5I/AAAAAAAAASg/7XCT-QfDIok/s400/090827-bionicle-gold-004.jpg

That head has been reproduced with minimal change in the following kit, which is being sold for profit:
http://threestagestudios.bigcartel.com/product/ts7-b-crusader-heavy-assault-robot

Clearly this is copyright infringement, and there are many people in the wargames hobby that want it to stop. Please take swift action against the person who is stealing from your company. Many will appreciate it, as we all love your products and we feel that no ones work should be stolen, let alone also being sold for profit.

Going back to people thinking Dakka is evil, I've been thinking about it. We probably ARE evil from their point of view. A forum of people with similar tastes and interests communicating and coordinating ANYTHING vaguely related to those interests who despise scammers and seeing fellow community members get screwed?

Yeah that's the equivalent of the evil league of evil to a scam artist.

+1 to Aerethan for taking the extra step there

Wow. This has certainly been exciting for my first post here. I really expected something completely different to occur. Like - Naw it's random/temporary.

I've received several PMs - a few people who know me other sites have PM'd emailed etc. I'd like to say thanks and I have continued to respect those as private and intend to continue to do so.

With that I'd like to also thank those of you who sent me thanks in regards to my service to the country/military/etc. It has been my honor,my pleasure and my privilege. I have been able to see people I consider to be far better than myself continue to lead by example both from the U.S.military (the best by the way) and our Allies {and those claiming to be allies - but really not so much - you know who you are ].

This post reminds me of Bad Springer shows at 3 AM while drinking/coming back from an I-HOP or Waffle house (both of which my wife and I miss - in most of Europe these are lacking) mixed in with Trolling - Troll-Bashing on You-Tube. I enjoy some Troll bashing there myself.

I'm sure that no one is surprised when I write this - I've had emails from both Matthew and Daniel claiming to be separate individuals and not the same person. - I make no statement to the effect of which is whom, if they are the same person or not, etc.

What I am writing is to clarify a potential mistake I may have made in my opening statement. I did not clarify a point clearly - no bad intention is intended - so I'm clarifying this right now.

There was common name Daniel in an email to Angelo, from an Ebayer who did not deliver to him. This is a seller who also failed to send me some items. Through the course of emails i had with the TSS Daniel - he made some references to purchases and trust, etc. without referring to the Ebay User ID. These two people both have the first name Daniel - but the paypal names do not match-up. The TSS one lines up with the Mandelbaum name.

In some recent exchanges her gave two Ebay Ids - both are supposed to be linked to him and/or his mother. (I've seen the references - and some other allegations.) I don't drag people through the mud after their deaths - with very few exceptions of evil politicians or my personal enemies. I will not do that here - it would be unprofessional and disrespectful. Neither of these two accounts have anything negative associated from myself or others. I make this statement because I promised I would in order to clarify this point - there was no intention to deceive or misrepresent the facts. I should have clarified this in my first post, but I as stated above - I hoped it would turn out differently.

In all this drama and riga-ma-roll I and my friend made an assumption that our business dealings with the same Ebayer and with TSS were the same Daniel. This adds another factor to consider. I did do searches of Mandlebaum for obits - but with namechanges, divorces, remaryying etc. - there was nothing there to settle this conclusively. These appear to be legit and clear - at least in my dealing with the one I know I used, I think I counted 5 purchases in a five month span - there maybe more.

I do not access my Paypal when I'm travelling - I just don't do it for cyber-security in some regions. I travel in Europe and Africa for business. I'm sure you are aware that some countries have ScamsCyber issues/hackers etc. I'm not smart enough to deal with that crap - so I avoid it.

When I get back home - I will check my Paypal and finish checking my part of this and double check with Angelo. I don't know his Paypal user name or address - and I will not volunteer his name to the TSS Daniel, in case he used his wifes name or some other Paypal account he has.

Sorry to throw this in - I just want to keep things above board. With this written though - it does look like people do have an issue with taking advantage of people and stealing IP/misrepresenting. It is just so hard to tell the bad guys from the good.

Hell - this post all got started because I was trying to be good guy about the Knight model. I have gotten several crappy re-casts lately - I bought one in Milan,Italy,one from a guy in France (not sure where - it came in after I left for this trip) and a third miniature (spiky nobs on it like heresy armor) from a guy in Monaco. I was just trying to find the original caster/owner to get a few more in better condition to finish my Knights squadrons for my Titan support for my Omminsah faction of 40K.

My apologies for re-opening wounds, that was not my intention.

I just want to help my friend and find out if this was a blip and if I should give the busines another go to complete my Truescale project.

V/r,

PanzerTC

PanzerTC, if you can at some point it may be helpful to post a little more clearly about what you're saying- I couldn't tell if you're saying you dealt with an ebay seller you mistakenly thought to be connected, or one that was connected (or maybe you don't know). This was the case in the last scheme, with 3 separate ebay accounts being used, so it would be good to know if you do connect something back to this.

And definitely, thank you for your service!!

There is a fine line between discussing issues and attacking someone who is no longer able to defend themselves on this site due to being permanently banned.

Keep in mind that one of the key rules of Dakka Dakka is to not attack former members who are no longer able to actively defend themselves here on the site.