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Hi,

I've tried searching on the threads and have not seen anything related to this topic (my apologies if there is). I thought I had seen a thread on the True Scale Terminators by Three Stage Studios. (Link - http://threestagestudios.blogspot.com/)

I'm a little tweaked with this guy. I ordered True Scale Terminators from him and had to go through PayPal to get my money back. A friend of mine, Angelo and I are stationed together and we like 40K – he provided me a link to this because he knew I bought some Trusescale from Chapterhouse and was looking at a few Terminators for a diorama I want to do.

The seller then told me his mother died - I sent my apologies, but have been told this was BS by a friend who ordered and did not get his either. I was told he really went on vacation and let things slide – granted this is from my friend Angelo located with me. He did some Ebaying with the guy and says he got some lame excuses and then a truth bare all email coming clean asking for more time on Ebay.

I got an email from the seller telling me how much he regretted this error and asked me to withdrawal my claim with PayPal - that I had 45 days from the time I filed instead of the purchase date. I knew this was wrong and left it going. He could not/would not provide a tracking number. (I'm U.S. military stationed in Europe - I know you can get this - I've spent the last 13 years outside the U.S.). Tracking is not always available but usually is.

He then professed great love and affection for the U.S. military and said he was shipping more sets of miniatures for free in the one he was 2 months late on. Since June - there has been no contact from him. I did get my money back through Paypal- my friend did not. He missed it by one day due to travel.

My main concerns/questions are these:

1) Does anyone know his real name? - I'd like to file a BBB complaint if is this a legit business. (It seems to be a part time operation to me.)
2) Does anyone know the state he is located in? I never got anything in the mail and Angelo never got his Ebay items either.
3) Are others being ripped off or is this isolated?
4) It looks like he is ripping off RedStarOne as well. TS-7B Robot on his site. (Not sure if he has permission to Cast/Sell these.)
5) Is this guy okay to do business with normally? Is my case out of the realm of normal - or should I avoid at all costs?

V/r,

PanzerTC

Edited portions follow here:

Elements changed - Title change and update.

Former Title – Mon, 06/Aug/2012 12:04:41 PM Subject: Has anyone else been ripped off by Three Stage Studios - True Scale Terminators?

New Title – SAT 29/SEP/2012 Subject: Has anyone else had problems/issues/complaints with and or about Three Stage Studios - True Scale Terminators?

UPDATE

I have dealt with all kinds of professional and personal things as fast as I could. I have updated this to avoid anymore drama or emails concerning this post. I’m not going into any lengthy details - but this will hopefully be my last post on this. I’ve stated before I have no time for drama or threats of lawsuits. I’m too busy doing important stuff in the real world. My hobby is supposed to be my escape from it – not the reason I hide in real life work.

1) Terminators have shown up. They were sent relatively fast. If someone wants I'll post pics of them.
2) Angelo is squared away – no issues with Daniel/TSS.
3) Tracking about the new knight kits on Ebay and other buyers.
4) The community has my thanks for the support and advice you have all given me.
5) To those of you still working with Daniel/TSS – good luck.
6) It is clear there are and will be issues about this subject. As I stated in some of my other posts – what I expected to hear when I posted this – turned into a rather long and convoluted entry.
I no longer feel as though my time and trust has been ripped off. I will not do business with Daniel again, but he is square with me and Angelo.
I wish the rest of you the best of luck and will continue to monitor the post.

V/r,

PanzerTC

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A client of mine was waiting on at least one of those terminators. Seems like they're either extremely disorganised and/or unprofessional. Either is bad, really.

 
   
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TSS has some bigger issues to worry about.

I found a blatant piece of illegal re-casting on their website.

How can I tell? Easy! Let me give you a comparison:

Original piece: Made be the Lego Group.

Spoiler:


The TSS Version:

Spoiler:


They are so fethed.

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See thread here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/440271.page#4508647

If you can, start PayPal/Credit Card recovery action right now.

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@wynterdyne – Roger – so this is a usual occurrence given the thread at the bottom by

@Chowderhead – Roger tracking on this – Number 4 on my concerns. You say Lego Group has this one- I honestly thought it was Redstarone (maybe yes to both).

@filbert - thanks for the thread – I really tried to find it – looks like I was in the wrong place to search.

I did get my Money back – my friend, not a U.S. citizen but is serving in a NATO assignment with me, really got doubly screwed by this guy. I was looking at a BBB complaint as a possible way to help him out. Try and get the owner/operator to do the right thing.


Looks like this guy is an AVOID at all costs guy.

Thanks.

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Rumor is that this is Matthew Bonder (AKA Red Star One).
I do not confirm or deny that rumor... only that I was told this by someone who purported to know.

I've noticed the gammatical differences, which I admit has made me skeptical.

Eric

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Side note:

The BBB can't do a damn thing about it. They only care about companies that are members, and then they coddle those members when complaints arise so that they don't lose the income.

The BBB is stupid is what I'm getting at. Complaining to them means little to nothing.

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PanzerTC wrote:
I got an email from the seller telling me how much he regretted this error and asked me to withdrawal my claim with PayPal - that I had 45 days from the time I filed instead of the purchase date. I knew this was wrong and left it going. He could not/would not provide a tracking number. (I'm U.S. military stationed in Europe - I know you can get this - I've spent the last 13 years outside the U.S.). Tracking is not always available but usually is.


Just as a side note, I've tried using USPS tracking via delivery confirmation to APOs several times and it has never worked for me besides the original scan at the counter when I'm paying. Obviously this isn't the issue in your case but I thought I'd chime in with that info from the shipping side. If he is the person Magical Memories mentioned, you should do a google search on the name (or even just here at dakka or at bartertown) and consider yourself lucky to have gotten your money back. What was the person's name (if any) that was attached to any communication you had?

   
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@ Aerethan, I am well aware of what the BBB can and cannot do (in some cases will not do). (Not intended as a mean or angry comment please don’t take it that way.) If you see my comment it refers to trying to find out if he is a legitimate business or if this is a side business. Not all businesses are members of the BBB, but some are. I have successfully resolved three issues in 13 years of overseas deployments I have used the BBB 5 times, 3 in my favor 1 in the business’s favor (in this case it was a really bad international car transit company clearly in the wrong – but I agree on this point – they coddled the member) and 1 time in Texas – the BBB just never replied to me. So I see it as give it a shot – nothing more is lost by it.

@ warboss, I jump back to the states for schools and training for a few weeks to a few months at a time and use the Postal System myself. There are some issues in when the Postal Workers are ignorant (meaning uninformed/experienced) of the system themselves. On some occasions the size and resources allocated to the facility make some options hard to get/not available. I have had training as a unit postal officer in several of my assignments as an additional duty. Usually there is a way to track and or confirm receipt in one way or another. It is often just asking the right question to illicit the right response from the Postal worker. Some are more helpful/proactive than others.

Thanks for the suggestions I will look into when I get some more time. I did get my money back – it is my friend that I am concerned about. As he isn’t a U.S. citizen I feel an obligation to help him on a personal level. He is a wonderful teammate and ally. He and his wife have helped me and my wife out with issues dealing with the local nationals where we are now. Keeping us from getting ripped off by bad businessmen here.

The name I had was Daniel Mandelbaum with TSS on the Paypal transaction. I tried a brief search on him a few months ago and nothing showed up.

Thanks for the help guys. I’m just tired of getting ripped off/having bad experiences that don’t turn out right.

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MagickalMemories wrote:Rumor is that this is Matthew Bonder (AKA Red Star One).
I do not confirm or deny that rumor... only that I was told this by someone who purported to know.

I've noticed the gammatical differences, which I admit has made me skeptical.

Eric


You've got to be kidding me... this guy is like the Osama Bin Laden of the miniature wargaming hobby, his name keeps popping up..

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Wow. Strong comparison. I am usually in Europe or the Middle East, lately in Africa and I've not heard anything bad about Red Star One.

I've recieved a few PMs warning me about him and his business practices lately.

Can anyone tell me what happened?

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PanzerTC wrote:Wow. Strong comparison. I am usually in Europe or the Middle East, lately in Africa and I've not heard anything bad about Red Star One.

I've recieved a few PMs warning me about him and his business practices lately.

Can anyone tell me what happened?


He has been pulling simultaneous scams since 2009 ( that I know of ).
I warned about him before he actually scammed dakkadakka, but my warning was dismissed as drama.
Then he proceeded to boldly scam a dakka mod + other dakkites.

He was lieing about his sick wife and dying son as he delayed his commission on dakka
while simultaneously run event and scams on 2 other site ( that I know of ).

He basically follow the pattern of:

Been (legit for a few trades), does commission legitly for few clients.
earn enough trust and publicity till he have enough "baited"
then he tries to scam as many people as he can within window of 1 week.

After he is exposed, he goes to new site, does the samething again ( build reputation and such )

over and over again.

Bad person is bad, too bad no dakkite in USA went to hunt him down yet xD

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LunaHound wrote:I warned about him before he actually scammed dakkadakka, but my warning was dismissed as drama.
Then he proceeded to boldly scam a dakka mod + other dakkites.


Ouch.

But yeah, I'm also morbidly amused by how often this guy's name comes up. I mean I feel bad for all the people being scammed, but holy gak I just can't believe how long the guy's been doing it and getting away with it.

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As much as I'd like to see Red Star One being hunted down and put through a Kangaroo court for his actions, I don't think we need to pull that jerk into this thread until it is 100% confirmed that this is another one of his schemes.

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Moore, Ok.

It's Bonder/Redstarone.
I'm surprised he didn't tell the OP he was Special Forces.
He's reading this too by the way. It's like he get's off on us talking about what a douche he is.
OP got lucky. He usually gets away with it, and others are left to clean up his mess. I dont want
to be in his state when it comes payback time. That's some seriously bad Karma.

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It's him again? Geez, that donkey-cave has a lot to answer for.

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BrookM wrote:It's him again? Geez, that donkey-cave has a lot to answer for.

*sniff sniff it sure smells like him again http://www.astronomican.com

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I think anyone who bought those blobby, pockmarked models got ripped off regardless of whether they were delivered or not.

I hope you guys can get your money back.

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@Luna
Do you have proof that he was lying about his wife and son?

I mean, I know he abused those excuses, whether legitimate or not, but that's a pretty crappy thing to accuse someone of lying about if you don't know they're lying.


Also, I saw someone mention that they were asked to drop their PayPal claim so that the stuff could be sent (sorry. I forget who). NEVER DO THIS WITH ANYONE. It was a trick used by Matthew numerous times. People would close their PayPal claims, so as to make the money available to him "so he can afford to ship the stuff," then he never shipped. Once you close a PayPal claim, you can NOT reopen it.

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MagickalMemories wrote:@Luna
Do you have proof that he was lying about his wife and son?

I mean, I know he abused those excuses, whether legitimate or not, but that's a pretty crappy thing to accuse someone of lying about if you don't know they're lying.


Also, I saw someone mention that they were asked to drop their PayPal claim so that the stuff could be sent (sorry. I forget who). NEVER DO THIS WITH ANYONE. It was a trick used by Matthew numerous times. People would close their PayPal claims, so as to make the money available to him "so he can afford to ship the stuff," then he never shipped. Once you close a PayPal claim, you can NOT reopen it.

Eric

When he told Dakka he had no time to take care of his end of business, he said it was because of his wife, and his son ( forgot what order they were used.... )
either way, at that same period while neglecting dakka, he was already on 2 other sites that I know of (might be more?)
One was miniwargaming, that one caught my attention right away because well its a Canadian store ( i visit there daily ). All the thing he said he couldn't do with dakka, he was doing it happily there.
In my eye, I can tell he already "used up" what he needed with dakka and moved on to the next one. The other site I cant remember the name right now, its either conversioncorner ( closed down) or
another one you guys know ( already mentioned in this thread somewhere ).

Either way I already halted him on miniwargaming and now he is on astronomicon

*edit the other site was mini wargame conversion

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Oh he is full of it, trust me. No one had cancer, I doubt he was even married. His latest round of shenanigans, in addition to this pile, has included pretending to be a 60 year old woman and now saying he or other people have cancer as well to get out of things.

Way I see it, he either lives on a radioactive dump site and hasn't the sense to move, or he is a sociopath and a liar that will continue to use the most heinous excuses to get out of delivering, and relying on the fact that any moral person would hesitate to question an excuse of that magnitude, even if absolutely everything that has every happened ever with this guy points to disgusting, illegal and predatory behaviours, and also that individually these are relatively small amounts to keep his ass out of jail.

This has been going on for years, and frankly I think if you totalled everything up, it would not be a small amount he has stolen, not at all. I will cherish the day when the police finally knock on his door and he has to answer for all this.

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Shame the old thread got locked, after being as good as exposed using some woman as a front to do his business, he's slithered off the radar for a bit. And now he's back finding more victims.
   
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MajorTom11 wrote:Oh he is full of it, trust me. No one had cancer, I doubt he was even married. His latest round of shenanigans, in addition to this pile, has included pretending to be a 60 year old woman and now saying he or other people have cancer as well to get out of things.

Way I see it, he either lives on a radioactive dump site and hasn't the sense to move, or he is a sociopath and a liar that will continue to use the most heinous excuses to get out of delivering, and relying on the fact that any moral person would hesitate to question an excuse of that magnitude, even if absolutely everything that has every happened ever with this guy points to disgusting, illegal and predatory behaviours, and also that individually these are relatively small amounts to keep his ass out of jail.

This has been going on for years, and frankly I think if you totalled everything up, it would not be a small amount he has stolen, not at all. I will cherish the day when the police finally knock on his door and he has to answer for all this.


That is the interesting thing Tom. To me, RSO was never talented in his work, and he is rather a one trick pony person in his works.
This is how I catch him so easily and fast when ever he tries to "start over".

In other words, his possible actions in the future are always linear and predictable.

He doesn't have variety in his work, nor subject of his work, nor does he "finish" new works fast enough.
In other words he'll always be borrowing or be in the shadow of "his own past work".
Then it becomes painfully obvious who he is no matter what name he changes to.
After all, he is in a hurry to establish credentials YET HE DONT HAVE ENOUGH NEW WORK TO SHOW.

Hence, it is inevitable he'll be exposed, and when he is he'll lie about everyone's claim.

His only possible action now, is to stay in hiding till he improve his work enough so he cant be so easily caught.
There is no way he can dodge people that knew what he did indefinitely, because each site he scamed isnt a perfect shaped impact, it cracks and branches like a smashed glass,
he'll be hard pressed to know where to hide

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This kind of thing is disgusting.

Ripping of people is bad enough but using the cancer excuse is absolutely repugnant on a personal level. My mother died from complications arising from breast cancer treatment last year and i am fighting Hodgkins Lymphoma right now.

People like this need the full weight of the law brought down on them and a good ass kicking thrown in for good measure.

   
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i just got my money back...didnt think it was going to happen but when I told him I was going to the BBB and post on the forums again I actually got a response...
heres my email correspondence with this person
it was months of promises and nothing....
STAY AWAY is my recommendation
cheers gents

Daniel
I.sent an email offering condolences on her passing. Jesus man all i have asked for is what i hVe paid for and you have given nothing but lip sevice and bullshitted me for 3 months now. I.am sorry for your loss, have a vacation, etc et all but YOU have told me my gak was in the mail for.months and i.havent gotten a thing from you but the run around.
Im not threatening you, hell, i.dont even know you but you treat me like a bitch because this is the internet.
We all have gak. One of my best friends died, my dad had surgery, my girlfriend has an donkey-cave ex blahblah.blah.... Stories are just that man.
You have fed me one for.months now telling me you are mailing me what i ordered. You have said i have lied...whatever man.
I will post the truth, my gak wont have been mailed and you will still be in business. End of this.story


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From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>;
To: josh saxton <Redacted;;
Subject: Re: crusader order
Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 1:00:54 AM

Going to reply or just threaten me?

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
Post whatever you want. After thew last 2 days of drama with bull gak people saying im someone im not, saying my mother didnt pass away, im frankly tired of this.


Its also bull gak I have to prove I did not lie about who I am or about my mother when People say I went on vacation and she didnt pass away.

The fact I have to post her obituary is down right wrong of you people to force me.

Go post whatever you want or take the refund. I will not play both games. Pick what you want and stick with it.




On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Daniel
Fyi... Its been 2 weeks and nothing but the refund. I will be posting on multiple forums this evening our dialogue's in the hope that the community at large can assist your business acumen.
I have say back and waited for liner than 4 months.
I find your practices to be dishonesty and i truly do not know why this situation had not been resolved. Perhaps you decided to seek out someone who came to you peacefully requesting assistance in purchasing from your company and maneuver a small sum away while not following through on multiple promises to be an honorable business person. The story does not matter just the now.
I will also seek out the better business bureau and any other agencies i can to file grievance against your business.
Many thanks
Joshua


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From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>;
To: josh saxton <Redacted>;
Subject: Re: crusader order
Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 3:48:12 AM

Extra set will be included and refund for the 10 will be sent in the morning. Dont take my word for it, just sit back, relax, and watch it happen .

Daniel

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Torso and legs are fine, my paypal address is Redacted
Joshua


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From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>;
To: josh saxton <Redacted;;
Subject: Re: crusader order
Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 3:39:01 AM

Hi,

Just tell me which option you want. I will refund the 10 dollar difference gladly but you should read the details. That is not the same set you bought, and in fact the set you bought is sold out and there is no way to get the shoulder pads included. The40 dollar option was always there, its simply torsos and legs. It was an option when you bought your set.

I will ship and refund the 10 as that seems to be a sticking point to you but hopfully, you will see, i did not just lower my price or even add a new option to it. I simply removed other options as the molds died.

Please send the money request or tell me the paypal specifically right here to refund. Most people use their normal email but some dont and I cant look up your paypal info right now.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:35 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Daniel,
Really?
3 options present themselves.
First you can honor your word as a business man and ship my order tonite while refunding the $10 price difference between when i originally placed my order and the current price on your website while including any extra product you feel might displace my inconvenience as a customer who had waited 3 months for your product.
Second you can refund my full paypal payment to you of $52 tonite.
Third you can continue to tell me you conduct business in a professional manner and not honor the merchant client agreement.
Its really up to you as you have my money and i have received nothing but a lesson as of yet.
Good luck in the future.
Joshua





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From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>;
To: josh saxton <Redactedcom>;
Subject: Re: crusader order
Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 2:32:05 AM

Oh wait, you wanted a refund instead? Let me know ASAP.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
Tracking inbound for your order and extras.




On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Daniel
Its a week later


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From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>;
To: josh saxton <Redacted>;
Subject: Re: crusader order
Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 1:37:54 AM

Im on the train heading home. I will provide you a tracking number first and a refund as the money uploads into my paypal from my bank which i started last night.

I would write more but the connection is terrible here.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:33 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
daniel
did not hear from you last night
hope you are having a good day
josh

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: josh saxton <Redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: crusader order

You sent a blank email. Gmail cuts peoples emails sometimes. Please resend .

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: josh saxton <Redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: crusader order

So you post saying I took your money, models and didnt refund you? You told me and I told you I needed until tonight to send the refund AND the tracking. Go update your post as frankly, you lied in it and failed to mention you have been in talks with me as of TODAY.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:06 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Howdy, I have been up for 26 hours at the moment...drove to northern michigan with my 3 children...I feel you on the no mood to argue.
I would love for you to keep your word and send me your product. Or my money. I leave it up to you to decide what form of compensation will occur and would appreciate you letting me know this evening when you have had a chance to cool off from your day.
Thank you

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: josh saxton <Redacted>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: crusader order

Hi.

I am in 100f heat, at work, very tired due to lack of sleep and not in a mood to argue.

Do you want the refund or not? Or do you want the tracking number? Both will be this evening whichever you choose.

I do hope whatever you have said about me youd link me to so I can read it for myself, or at least mention im offering a refund or the models. Im not screwing you over and do understand your position. Please understand mine.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
I have received no email or phone call offers of a refund, nor referenced emails to my paypal dispute .
In the last 2 months I have received multiple emails from you have been promising delivery of goods I have paid for.
In letting people know that I am an unsatisfied customer I am not trying to damage your company nor reputation but let people know that there are problems that need to be addressed. I have said nothing inflammatory, just spoken the truth as I see it.
I am a self employed one man operation as well and understand fully the vagaries of time and fortune, in that is the saving grace of my patience in this situation.
You have said on 2 occasions that you would ship them the next day and once said you would give a delivery confirmed order.

1)Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM,
'Hmm, I will send out a replacement set, first thing tomorrow!'

2)Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:54 PM
"DId you not get the mass email from last night? Maybe your spam got it. Here it is (but doesnt really apply to you as your order is going out much sooner):

Hello there,

I do apologize for the delaies. I will be updating the blog and website with new products as well as finally being caught up on all past due orders including yours. I wont make excuses other then that life hs been tough, but, thats ok. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. As such, expect some extras in your package and I hope you can look past the delaies and remain a customer for future projects im releasing and others in the works.

Again, I am very sorry for this.

I will have your order out within the week, though if your out of the USA, I will have to pay extra (from my pocket, so dont worry) for signature conformation that way we can track it. I wish USPS would track after it leaves customs here but it sadly doesnt. Domestic orders will posted with a normal tracking number.

If you have any questions at all, just let me know.

Regards"



Perhaps you will be able to more clearly understand my frustration in this matter with your words.
I will let you decide to refund my money or mail my order. I see the crusader sets are on sale now.
Thank you for your response
Joshua

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: josh saxton <Redactedgt;
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: crusader order

Hello,

I have made it clear I can not reply to the paypal dispute center from my phone. I made that clear several times.

I have also offered a refund several times.

Making threats to talk bad about my company while admitting others got their products is rather confusing. It will simply make you look like you did something wrong when you did no such thing.

If you want a refund I will send it today. If you want another set, I will send it today with a tracking number.

I do this not because of your threats but because I do not leave my customers hanging in the wind. Understand I am a one man show and my blog clearly states that.

Have a nice day,

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
Ok man,
You got me. I have attempted to contact you via paypal transaction resolution center and my case was denied as its been longer than 45 days since I sent you $52.50 for an item I have not received.
I have not received my order and will obviously not be buying from you in the future and I will be posting in the forums I frequent as to my negative experience. Apparently other folks received their orders so I assume there are some satisfied customers, I am not one.
Thank you
Joshua S

From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: crusader order

DId you not get the mass email from last night? Maybe your spam got it. Here it is (but doesnt really apply to you as your order is going out much sooner):

Hello there,

I do apologize for the delaies. I will be updating the blog and website with new products as well as finally being caught up on all past due orders including yours. I wont make excuses other then that life hs been tough, but, thats ok. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. As such, expect some extras in your package and I hope you can look past the delaies and remain a customer for future projects im releasing and others in the works.

Again, I am very sorry for this.

I will have your order out within the week, though if your out of the USA, I will have to pay extra (from my pocket, so dont worry) for signature conformation that way we can track it. I wish USPS would track after it leaves customs here but it sadly doesnt. Domestic orders will posted with a normal tracking number.

If you have any questions at all, just let me know.

Regards



On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted> wrote:
Howdy again man...not heard back from you with shipping number not received items in mail...
While I am excited about true scale terminators and your amazing work I am wondering if this is meant to be.
If you cannot have the crusader squad to me by Monday I would ask for a refund of my payment.
Thanks
Redacted
Redacted
Redacted
Redacted


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-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: crusader order
From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted>
CC:


Hi Josh,

I will check into the pile of receipts and find yours. You should most certainly have them. i do apologize and will find out quickly whats going on.



On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted> wrote:
Dude...its June 18th. After my last email you said you would get a set of crusader guys in the mail 12 days ago to Redacted. I have not received a package.
I will need you to send the package via some kind of delivery confirmed service and send me the tracking number.
Thanks
Josh


Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch



-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: crusader order
From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted>
CC:


Hmm, I will send out a replacement set, first thing tomorrow!

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted> wrote:

Howdy again
Wondering if my address email went through? when can I expect the crusader armor guys to arrive?
Thanks
Josh
Redacted
Redacted
Redacted


Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch



-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: crusader order
From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted>
CC:


Here is the original as Gmail seems to want to quote it and not just post it.

-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: crusader order
From: Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com>
To: Saxtonmassagetherapy <Redacted>
CC:


Hello Johsua,

Can you give me your address and exact order and ill check the status as I cant check paypal shipment info from my phone :(



Automatically Appended Next Post:
REMOVE MY MOTHERS OBITUARY NOW

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
"Go post whatever you want or take the refund. I will not play both games. Pick what you want and stick with it. "

I did warn you I will not play both games. You took the refund and then attacked me.

Game on.


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
YOU HAVE JUST CROSSED THE fething LINE

i apologize ot the community at large for inadvertently including personal information and have removed said link from my post.

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Three Stage Studios <threestagestudios@gmail.com> wrote:
REMOVE MY MOTHERS OBITUARY FROM YOUR fething EMAIL CHAIN RIGHT fething NOW.


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:44 PM, josh saxton <Redacted> wrote:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/468034.page;jsessionid=37EE314C9C9B0C85C9F647B78D9594E6#4623649
ya....guess im lucky then if this is you.

As far as getting my money back, thank you. I told you time and again I wanted the minatures I ordered and again and again you told me they were in the mail. Id love to see a pic of my name on a box and the date it was supposed to be shipped.

BBB does not have three stage studios on file but you are on a few scam sites....guess you probably are aware of that.
I will make mention that I received my money back.

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Again, I'm not saying this IS Matthew Bonder -I have ZERO actual proof- but, *IF* it is, he's going a LONG WAY out of his way to type like someone else, AND he's being consistent about it.

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MM, it's him no question. The obituary link that was shown above was Susan Beasley's. That name should be familiar, it's the one he used in his last scam.

Glad you got refunded, good on you for keeping at it.
   
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MagickalMemories wrote:Again, I'm not saying this IS Matthew Bonder -I have ZERO actual proof- but, *IF* it is, he's going a LONG WAY out of his way to type like someone else, AND he's being consistent about it.

Eric


I don't know MM, change Daniel to Matthew and those emails sure do sound familiar. Real familiar.

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I also sort of doubt that every bad person could be the exact same person. There is a chance of more of them.

Can't be the only donkey-cave in the world.

   
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Did you see my post, not_u?

Anyway, I have no desire to ever discuss this person on Dakka ever again beyond folks getting refunds. But those emails are definitely Bonder... or, I guess, Daniel Mandelbaum.

And if he is indeed related to her, it seems she may have indeed died, which is sad. But it does nothing to change the fact that he used her name, and even posted pictures of her here And emailed them to me, last time he was on here.

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