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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 03:34:33
Subject: Re:Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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KingCracker wrote:Dakkaguns are awesome because they are a bigshoota with less range. You need to open that view to Bigshootas are awesome. I LURVE the bigshoota. I always seem to mow something down with them. My bikerboss runs with a squad of stock koptas and man, all those TL bigshootas is just BRUTAL, even MEQs feel that one
I don't have aproblem with big shoota koptas i just dont got any yet so dont run in em tourneys. I usually use the rokkits for more reliable pens on dreadnaughts or hit targets lootas don't have LOS too (manticores and the like).. the snake eyes incident does happen though.
I was just saying that the points for a nob biker is more worthwhile than buggies I think? because of hullpoints at least? the LOS blocking of the buggies is wonderful, but I feel like my meta will glance them out w/o me running a KFF. I think I might consider running big shoota koptas though on top of rokkit koptas @ 2k+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 11:25:07
Subject: Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Stinky Spore
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I have went for some nob bikerz.
Converted some from the 2 x bike box sets and a box of nobz.
6 total, currently have:
1 x pk, bp
1 x pk
1 x bc, bp
1 x bc
1 painboy
1 unbuilt....
So 2 power klaws and 2 big choppaz. And one painboy.
Should I give the last one a big choppa?
And which model should get the banner?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/10 11:26:13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 14:18:44
Subject: Re:Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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skyfi wrote: KingCracker wrote:Dakkaguns are awesome because they are a bigshoota with less range. You need to open that view to Bigshootas are awesome. I LURVE the bigshoota. I always seem to mow something down with them. My bikerboss runs with a squad of stock koptas and man, all those TL bigshootas is just BRUTAL, even MEQs feel that one
I don't have aproblem with big shoota koptas i just dont got any yet so dont run in em tourneys. I usually use the rokkits for more reliable pens on dreadnaughts or hit targets lootas don't have LOS too (manticores and the like).. the snake eyes incident does happen though.
I was just saying that the points for a nob biker is more worthwhile than buggies I think? because of hullpoints at least? the LOS blocking of the buggies is wonderful, but I feel like my meta will glance them out w/o me running a KFF. I think I might consider running big shoota koptas though on top of rokkit koptas @ 2k+
More reliable pens? Sure...but you have to actually hit the damn thing to make those happen, and Ive learned from trying numerous rokkit spam lists in 5th, even TL rokkits arnt that good, you still seem to miss more than hit. Where as bigshootas, you zip around behind the dread, which should be too hard, and blow holes in it more reliably with those, then rokkits.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Billagio wrote:Haha I know what you mean. I like to run green tide and even though I rarely need more than my 120, Id really like to have 180 just so I can max out if I want.
I started to go more speed freeks however and am at a pretty good spot with my 4 trukks and 3 BWs at around 1500. Luckily if I want more trukks I can go to my dollar store and and pick up some $1 toys to convert. But im running out of bitz and gubbins :(
Yea I seem to be weird as far as trends go. 5th was all about getting into battlewagons or behind kans and having a go and dont forget your super maxed out to the teef nobz mob. I did none of that. I spammed boyz like a mofo and hid behind rokkit buggies that stayed under a KFF, and randomly hit lines with MANzmissiles. Now in 6th, people are saying "Vehicles suck!" and my response? "MORE VEHICLES!!!"
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/10 14:20:44
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 16:44:47
Subject: Re:Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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i think it comes down to "your mileage may vary"
My normal rokkits NEVER hit, while the TL ones seem to... albeit if I regularly roll 1's to wound/pen
I don't have an issue with the big shoota koptas, i think they are viable, but I don't think I would personally run them until I had a squad of rokkit koptas as well... but your mileage may vary!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 19:36:48
Subject: Re:Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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@KC Yeah im going more vehicles too now with the changes to rapid fire. I have a friend who plays C:SM and Tau (and nids) and now that he can move and shoot his full range and with taking casualties from the front, it takes forever to get close enough with green tide.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/12/10 19:37:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 22:17:04
Subject: Re:Nob Bikers vs MANz
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thats what my experiences were as well. Felt like boyz were tripping over the dead ones or something, because it just took FOREVER to get into combat. So Im changing my main tactics. Instead of slow and relentless, Im going more towards "Im either hitting the enemy lines like a freight train, or dying in a brilliant explosion"
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