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You can gauge how someone feels about Fallout 3 and/or New Vegas usually by asking them their opinions on "No Mutants Allowed".

But as KingCracker just said, this is basically a case of "I like this better!" "But I like this better". Hey guys - we like different things. The world keeps spinning. Chill out.

Yeah, when it comes to FO3 and FNV, talk about first world problems. Although I like FO3 better, I had a lot of fun and spent a lot of time with FNV as well.

Thats how I feel about it. FO3 grabbed me more. Where as FNV I played for a longer time because the gameplay was better.







Werent we talking about Skyrim originally?

Well, the issue is there will be no more Skyrim DLC -- which is tantamount to saying Bethesda has begun working on FO4.

Hey youre the MOD Manchu, I was pretending to care about a thing called "Staying Ontopic"

That's what I'm saying, talking about FO is on topic!

Except they denied FO4, and announced something else instead.

Really no more Skyrim DLC isn't a big deal. The headline might as well read "Developer stops making stuff for their old game which has been out for a year, moves onto new game", followed by "Also, water is wet!" on the list things that are neither surprising nor interesting.

 KingCracker wrote:
Your problem Illuknissa, is youre trying to argue everyones opinions with your opinions. That simply doesnt work. Just accept that yours is different from ours. Obviously you dont like FO3 because youve been arguing everyone that does since the first time it was brought up. Shut up already about it would ya?

Let me give an example. You can raise big guns skill via skill points, perks, skill books or quest rewards. Bethasda managed to make perks, skill points, quest rewards and most skill books completely useless when raising big guns skill because there is one skill book that respaws allowing you to max out big guns without even hitting level 3.

That isn't even too bad when you consider that with carefull planning you can max out every skill with just skill books and skill points rendering all skill point perks useless.

Before the release of the game I heard how you needed to survive in harsh wasteland from deadly enemies and radiation.
deadly enemies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKAwKM1qeOw

safest way to rivet city:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBP9AGycWyA

So yeah I'd rather have bethesda making dlc for skyrim than making another bad game.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Except they denied FO4, and announced something else instead.

What did they announce?

 illuknisaa wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Your problem Illuknissa, is youre trying to argue everyones opinions with your opinions. That simply doesnt work. Just accept that yours is different from ours. Obviously you dont like FO3 because youve been arguing everyone that does since the first time it was brought up. Shut up already about it would ya?

Let me give an example. You can raise big guns skill via skill points, perks, skill books or quest rewards. Bethasda managed to make perks, skill points, quest rewards and most skill books completely useless when raising big guns skill because there is one skill book that respaws allowing you to max out big guns without even hitting level 3.

That isn't even too bad when you consider that with carefull planning you can max out every skill with just skill books and skill points rendering all skill point perks useless.

Before the release of the game I heard how you needed to survive in harsh wasteland from deadly enemies and radiation.
deadly enemies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKAwKM1qeOw

safest way to rivet city:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBP9AGycWyA

So yeah I'd rather have bethesda making dlc for skyrim than making another bad game.

Its like talking to a tree. Please then, since you appear to have figured out how to explain why peoples opinions and tastes can be proven wrong, explain to me why WaterWorld sucks in a way, that would make me finally realize that I should stop loving it and start agreeing with you? Because you know what? I wont. Ill still love WaterWorld, and I STILL think Bethesda made some awesome FallOut games, regardless of a couple "easy ways" to win. Heres an idea, dont fracking cheat, the game will be far better.

 KingCracker wrote:
*snip*



Its like talking to a tree. Please then, since you appear to have figured out how to explain why peoples opinions and tastes can be proven wrong, explain to me why WaterWorld sucks in a way, that would make me finally realize that I should stop loving it and start agreeing with you? Because you know what? I wont. Ill still love WaterWorld, and I STILL think Bethesda made some awesome FallOut games, regardless of a couple "easy ways" to win. Heres an idea, dont fracking cheat, the game will be far better.

Can you point out where my post contains opinions and why they are opinions?

The number of attainable skill points (without books, and not including what your skills are at character creation or your tagged skills) is 428. Combined with the Comprehension perk and every Vault Boy Bobblehead, you can achieve a 100% stat in all 13 skills, though it might take some time searching the wasteland for everything.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Skill_point

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Paralyzing_Palm

Bethesda's games are all easy because their idea of hard is a bloated hp bar.

 Manchu wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Except they denied FO4, and announced something else instead.

What did they announce?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-19-bethesda-unveils-shinji-mikamis-new-survival-horror-game

Don't mix up Bethesda the publisher and Bethesda the game dev.

 Coolyo294 wrote:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-19-bethesda-unveils-shinji-mikamis-new-survival-horror-game

Oh that. Is Bethesda doing more than publishing it?

 illuknisaa wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
*snip*



Its like talking to a tree. Please then, since you appear to have figured out how to explain why peoples opinions and tastes can be proven wrong, explain to me why WaterWorld sucks in a way, that would make me finally realize that I should stop loving it and start agreeing with you? Because you know what? I wont. Ill still love WaterWorld, and I STILL think Bethesda made some awesome FallOut games, regardless of a couple "easy ways" to win. Heres an idea, dont fracking cheat, the game will be far better.

Can you point out where my post contains opinions and why they are opinions?

The number of attainable skill points (without books, and not including what your skills are at character creation or your tagged skills) is 428. Combined with the Comprehension perk and every Vault Boy Bobblehead, you can achieve a 100% stat in all 13 skills, though it might take some time searching the wasteland for everything.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Skill_point

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Paralyzing_Palm

Bethesda's games are all easy because their idea of hard is a bloated hp bar.

The point was/is that youre arguing constantly against OTHER folks opinions. And therefore that is showing YOUR opinion against ours. But you can argue to yourself for all I care bud, Im finished discussing this with you.