Switch Theme:

Femen protester mocks right wing historian a day after he commits sucide at Notre Dame  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Secretive Dark Angels Veteran





 Kilkrazy wrote:
IDK about France or Germany but under English law a dead person is not a human being, they are a dead person and don't have any human rights of free speech, religion, marriage, job and so on.


I don't know with any certainty but I would imagine they are the same, we do all use the same declaration of human rights after all.
   
Made in au
Terrifying Treeman






The Fallen Realm of Umbar

 Sigvatr wrote:
 Medium of Death wrote:
 Sigvatr wrote:
 Medium of Death wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
@people in favor of what she did: You know that she violated human rights with that act? Not blaming, showing up.


Explain?


Article 1,2,5 and 29b.


Or you could be less obtuse and just say.


Google-fu...

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.


Violated by publicly making fun of a deceased person.
Born free and equal, we don't die free and equal
Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as[...] political or other opinion[...].


See above / offending statement vs. different political opinion / idea.
See above, once you are dead people can make whatever they want of your actions in life

Article 5.

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.


Obvious.
how is it obvious, showing your bewbs and make lots of noise is not torture or inhuman by any stretch of the imagination

Article 29.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.


Obvious.
Again not only is this not obvious it is ironic as you are talking about someone who himself tried to restrict the rights and freedoms of others


C'mon Sigvatr you are better than that.

DT:90-S++G++M++B+IPw40k07+D+A+++/cWD-R+T(T)DM+
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.

 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut




Building a blood in water scent

 dogma wrote:
feeder wrote:
Interesting how it was reported she wrote "fascists burn in hell" when she clearly wrote "rest in hell".

No, really, there's writing on those bewbs!


Are we reading different articles? Because the the article itself quotes her body paint as

may fascism rest in hell


And presents a picture in which the only ambiguity is whether or not the actual word is "fascism" or "fascist".


Bullet point in the headline vs the pictures.

We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” 
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator





I'm just surprised that modern Ukrainians don't know what fascism actually is.
   
Made in us
Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau




USA

 Valion wrote:
I'm just surprised that modern Ukrainians don't know what fascism actually is.


They are from the Ukraine. Not exactly the educational mecca of the world. In a world with Russian and Mogolian Nazi's, anything is possible

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/24 01:52:17


   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Omadon's Realm

 Valion wrote:
I'm just surprised that modern Ukrainians don't know what fascism actually is.


Ukrainian women certainly know what it is to be persecuted, suffer violence and live in fear of being abducted, imprisoned and sold into slavery. So, they understand what it is to suffer under a form of fascism.



 
   
Made in us
Aspirant Tech-Adept





How is it disrespectful for her to show people those nice boobs God made for her. Good work, I say!

   
Made in ca
Stormin' Stompa






Ottawa, ON

Never add insult to injury, you may end up buried alive in a wine cellar.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/24 22:22:45


Ask yourself: have you rated a gallery image today? 
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator





 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
 Valion wrote:
I'm just surprised that modern Ukrainians don't know what fascism actually is.


Ukrainian women certainly know what it is to be persecuted, suffer violence and live in fear of being abducted, imprisoned and sold into slavery. So, they understand what it is to suffer under a form of fascism.

I'm just surprised that modern Britons don't know what fascism actually is.
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




Kamloops, BC

JWhex wrote:
How is it disrespectful for her to show people those nice boobs God made for her. Good work, I say!


Meh, I think it's a pretty bad rack then again I don't really find much on her that is visually appealing but let's not turn this into a debate of rate the chick on a fethabilty scale.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Spitsbergen

Eh, it's got bewbs. I'm fine with this.
   
Made in us
Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges




United States

feeder wrote:
 dogma wrote:
feeder wrote:
Interesting how it was reported she wrote "fascists burn in hell" when she clearly wrote "rest in hell".

No, really, there's writing on those bewbs!


Are we reading different articles? Because the the article itself quotes her body paint as

may fascism rest in hell


And presents a picture in which the only ambiguity is whether or not the actual word is "fascism" or "fascist".


Bullet point in the headline vs the pictures.


Ah, fair enough.

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
Made in au
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





I just don't get the point of the protest. I mean, gay marriage passed in France, and some right wing bigot killed himself.

That's called winning. You don't protest after you just won.




 LordofHats wrote:
They are from the Ukraine. Not exactly the educational mecca of the world. In a world with Russian and Mogolian Nazi's, anything is possible


And they're students. To students everything is fascism.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
Made in gb
Major





 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Is it just me or did it look like the Daily Mail tried to publish as many topless pictures of the protester as possible?


Standard Daily Mail reporting.

Look at this harlot! look at how disgusting she is! Here are 15 pictures of her so you look at her over and over again so you can check just how offended you are!

"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!" 
   
Made in ca
Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord





sebster wrote:I just don't get the point of the protest. I mean, gay marriage passed in France, and some right wing bigot killed himself.

That's called winning. You don't protest after you just won.

Perhaps an attempt to combat sentiments which might be sympathetic to the cause of the deceased?


Personally, I see the demonstrations as being close to the same idea behind the Westboro people gloating at soldiers' funerals. While I appreciate the message (follow the guy's lead and eat a bullet if you want to restrict other people's human rights), I don't see how a second public disruption balances out the first one.
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Space Marine





 LuciusAR wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Is it just me or did it look like the Daily Mail tried to publish as many topless pictures of the protester as possible?


Standard Daily Mail reporting.

Look at this harlot! look at how disgusting she is! Here are 15 pictures of her so you look at her over and over again so you can check just how offended you are!


I just love how in the bottom picture she looks like a crazy person being carted off in a straight jacket (the way her coat's arranged and everything.)

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/24 16:10:54


"You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something at some point in your life."  
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Omadon's Realm

 Valion wrote:
 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
 Valion wrote:
I'm just surprised that modern Ukrainians don't know what fascism actually is.


Ukrainian women certainly know what it is to be persecuted, suffer violence and live in fear of being abducted, imprisoned and sold into slavery. So, they understand what it is to suffer under a form of fascism.

I'm just surprised that modern Britons don't know what fascism actually is.



Ref: The World English Dictionary:
3. prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism

So, gender fascism would be prejudice in relation to gender... and still a type of fascism. My statement stands.

If you're going to fire shots in my direction, you will need to up your arsenal considerably.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/05/24 16:58:23




 
   
 
Forum Index » Off-Topic Forum
Go to: