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 Frogboy14 wrote:
1st I hope he is. Phil I hate.

2nd At first we thought that he was invited. So no one said any thing we just gritted our teeth and went on, Then we found out through dinner that no one invited him

3rd Its a shop I cant be telling off people i don't like left and right the owner would kick me out!

Yes you can? So you're saying if you show up with a buddy to play a game, and captain asshat says "NO I WANT TO PLAY DURRRRR" You have to let him play ?

weeble1000 wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
It happens all the time in real life too.
Tell him he wasn't invited and carry on with your game.
Simple.

Some people have a hard time doing that. And it can be tough to do.

Oh I know the answer to this.

"Tehn you needz to grow sum ballz lulz"

angel of ecstasy wrote:Public places (and lets call stores public places in this situation) are for everyone, and if you can't stand that then it's up to you to leave, not the person you don't like.

angel of ecstasy wrote:

weeble1000 wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
Tell him he wasn't invited and carry on with your game.
Simple.

Some people have a hard time doing that. And it can be tough to do.

Oh I know the answer to this.

"Tehn you needz to grow sum ballz lulz"

Aren't these two statements mutually exclusive (not to mention utterly unhelpful)? You can't tell the lad both that he shouldn't stick up for himself and that he should "grow sum ballz lulz" and stick up for himself.

Whether or not it was an all-comers throw-down is immaterial to whether or not this guy should have displayed good gaming etiquette. If I turn up somewhere with my Forgeworld Repressors, I ask if people would rather I played them as Rhinos. If they say they would, it's no skin off my nose; if I didn't enjoy playing with one hand tied behind my back, I wouldn't play SoB to begin with. I certainly wouldn't spam the table with super-heavies when the opposition has none - to my mind, it'd be poor sportsmanship.

To the OP, it's what a friend of mine likes to call "Life Experience", which he defines as "What you get when you don't get what you want". Evidently the guy felt like being TFG, and presumably your comrades at your FLGS are now as aware of it as you are. So next time, don't play against him - you and your friends have a game together, and let him play Billy No-Mates in the corner.

 mattyrm wrote:
A simple feth off is usually the perfect accompaniment to a dish like this.

You cant beat a good "feth off", although nowadays I would probably ask him nicely first while maintaining eye contact, getting soppy in my old age.

Frogboy14 wrote:Yeah its a private fb group and we thought he was with our buddy. we didn't know that he never got an invite till after we had some dinner.


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Also yeah he was saying his character was name " Joe Blow" and he has the profile of Karne and he also has x y and Z

If that's the situation then it's more important than ever to confirm attendance ahead of time. If you guys are all facebook/internet connected, it's not hard to go the extra mile in requiring RSVPs for an event. RSVP's make sure that everyone know's who's invited and make it much easier to turn away those who aren't invited.

I feel your pain at having to put up with TFG, but if you want to have a good event or game, it won't organize it'self. You've got to be on the ball from start to finish.

Best of luck with the next event. I have a feeling you and your friends won't make the same mistake (not controlling your invites/RSVP's) again.

kronk wrote:Assertive: Putting your needs at the same level as whomever you're dealing with. i.e. Not being a punching bag or push over.

Aggressive: Putting your needs as a higher level than whomever you're dealing with. i.e. being a d-bag.

Well said! Too many people get aggressive when they should simply be firm and assertive.

Compared to aggressiveness, being assertive:
-is more likely to bring success (you look like the mature one and they look like a d-bag)
-is less likely to escalate the situation. Aggression often just breeds more aggression.
-makes it much less likely that you will do something in the heat of the moment to make a donkeycave of yourself. Nothing makes it easier for a d-bag to continue being a d-bag when those opposing him don't look any better.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Frogboy14 wrote:
Yeah its a private fb group and we thought he was with our buddy. we didn't know that he never got an invite till after we had some dinner.


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Also yeah he was saying his character was name " Joe Blow" and he has the profile of Karne and he also has x y and Z

So he wasn't using made up rules? Or he was. Because using something as your own version of a counts as Kharne is 100% legit.

He was using Kharn's statline with additional made-up rules. We have an entire proposed rules section where people do that, but most people have the decency to ask before they whip that stuff out.



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And you only have three options:

suck it up and play with him or grow a pair and tell him to leave. If that's too hard for you, leave. If you don't want to play against someone, don't. If your group doesn't want to play with someone, don't. Life isn't easy, sometimes you have to tell people that they need to leave. Either do it or suck it up.

 McNinja wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Frogboy14 wrote:

Also yeah he was saying his character was name " Joe Blow" and he has the profile of Karne and he also has x y and Z

So he wasn't using made up rules? Or he was. Because using something as your own version of a counts as Kharne is 100% legit.

He was using Kharn's statline with additional made-up rules. We have an entire proposed rules section where people do that, but most people have the decency to ask before they whip that stuff out.

Yeah...

IF he's making up rules, likely super powered rules, that's not cool.

IF he's brought minis from forgeworld, along with their rules, to an open Apocalypse game, then that's fine.

I think in future you just have to assert yourselves. Be clear beforehand on who is attending and what people should play. That way another player can't just insist on joining in with a heap of things that you don't want and upsetting the points balance in the game.

You just have to say that it's a group game that was prearranged between your friends to be a certain size and that that his mass forge world and home made rules won't fit in. What's the worst that can happen. TFG gets upset and leaves?