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 dogma wrote:
I know that, in the US, "speech" includes financial transactions but I did not realize it included violence.

Pretty sure we've already got laws against violence in the US.

 Seaward wrote:

Pretty sure we've already got laws against violence in the US.

Yes, those exist.

Did anyone in this thread actively claim that the state should suppress speech?

 dogma wrote:
Yes, those exist.

Did anyone in this thread actively claim that the state should suppress speech?

Do you mean anyone other than the guy I was replying to? It's not a complicated quote chain, so I'm not sure where the disconnect's occurring.

I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

 d-usa wrote:
But whatever. I'm gonna go to my half-brown baby and my brown wife and celebrate being an awesome family.

This is 'MURICA and you go have a nice day with your baby, wife, and your baby's plushie very hungry catepillar. Good day to you sir

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

You live in Texas right?

The Red River is right here, if you don't like it secede!

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

I mean, I have lived in LA for 3 years, I lived in PA for 22.

Mexico is no peach for sure, but we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to Mexico. We should be setting a standard, and this article shows a really bad standard we are setting...

 Seaward wrote:

Do you mean anyone other than the guy I was replying to? It's not a complicated quote chain, so I'm not sure where the disconnect's occurring.

I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that KK was implying that the legal suppression of racism which violently rears its head entails the restriction of speech. I mean, yeah, much like any criminal law regulation which administers consequences for violent, racist action restricts the freedom of expression (read: speech) but that's just sort of how it goes when you exist in society; especially if that society has a formal government.

 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

You live in Texas right?

The Red River is right here, if you don't like it secede!

Red River is north of me Hewhodoesn'tknowhelivesinaRepublic?

LA is just an hour and half north of Mexico. He should go there. I did...and what a party!


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 gameandwatch wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

I mean, I have lived in LA for 3 years, I lived in PA for 22.

Mexico is no peach for sure, but we shouldn't be comparing ourselves to Mexico. We should be setting a standard, and this article shows a really bad standard we are setting...

Yes, our bad standard has an Indian Miss America and a mixed race geek for a US President. We're just an entire nation of Klansmen...

 dogma wrote:
I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that KK was implying that the legal suppression of racism which violently rears its head entails the restriction of speech. I mean, yeah, much like any criminal law regulation which administers consequences for violent, racist action restricts the freedom of expression (read: speech) but that's just sort of how it goes when you exist in society; especially if that society has a formal government.

Unless he was suggesting more and consequently redundant laws against murder or assault or battery or even incitement of violence, there's not much else he could have been suggesting beyond the restriction of speech.

 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

You live in Texas right?

The Red River is right here, if you don't like it secede!

Red River is north of me Hewhodoesn'tknowhelivesinaRepublic?

LA is just an hour and half north of Mexico. He should go there. I did...and what a party!

I know it's north of you.

I wouldn't expect a true Texan to run away and to Mexico if he does not like America.

I would expect him to just take his state (every true Texan thinks America should just be like Texas anyway ) and leave!

Hence, the Red River reference. Your new border between Texas (aka, True America(TM)) and fake America!

Clearly he was putting forth reasons for a return to rule by monarchy. Come on guys, connect the dots already!


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 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 gameandwatch wrote:
I find it more and more remarkable how incredibly stupid Americans are as a whole. I mean, having never personally left this country, I don't need to visit foreign soil to understand how ignorant and backwards so many Americans are...

*Disappointed Face* Common people, get it together...

You live in LA right? You're complaining about other Americans?
Mexico is South. Drive there.

You live in Texas right?

The Red River is right here, if you don't like it secede!

Red River is north of me Hewhodoesn'tknowhelivesinaRepublic?

LA is just an hour and half north of Mexico. He should go there. I did...and what a party!

I know it's north of you.

I wouldn't expect a true Texan to run away and to Mexico if he does not like America.

I would expect him to just take his state (every true Texan thinks America should just be like Texas anyway ) and leave!

Hence, the Red River reference. Your new border between Texas (aka, True America(TM)) and fake America!

He said he's never been to foreign soil, but lives in LA. Dude, it quicker to drive to Mexico then to drive home if he's in LA. Make a run for the border and check it out!
Oklahoma's still flat by the way.

 Seaward wrote:

Unless he was suggesting more and consequently redundant laws against murder or assault or battery or even incitement of violence, there's not much else he could have been suggesting beyond the restriction of speech.

He also could have been suggesting that the status quo is just fine, while providing a rationale for its existence; which was my understanding of the comment.

 Seaward wrote:

 dogma wrote:
I don't understand how you came to the conclusion that KK was implying that the legal suppression of racism which violently rears its head entails the restriction of speech. I mean, yeah, much like any criminal law regulation which administers consequences for violent, racist action restricts the freedom of expression (read: speech) but that's just sort of how it goes when you exist in society; especially if that society has a formal government.

Unless he was suggesting more and consequently redundant laws against murder or assault or battery or even incitement of violence, there's not much else he could have been suggesting beyond the restriction of speech.

I was suggesting that existing laws would need to be applied.

 dogma wrote:

 Seaward wrote:

Unless he was suggesting more and consequently redundant laws against murder or assault or battery or even incitement of violence, there's not much else he could have been suggesting beyond the restriction of speech.

He also could have been suggesting that the status quo is just fine, while providing a rationale for its existence; which was my understanding of the comment.

Admit it, in your heart of hearts you know he wants Henry VIII back. Search your feelings Luke...

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I was suggesting that existing laws would need to be applied.

Fair play, then.

If I put on some weight and grew a beard, I would be Henry VIII.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If I put on some weight and grew a beard, I would be Henry VIII.

I don't think your wife likes this plan. Careful you may be Henry, but she may be Lady MacBeth...

 Frazzled wrote:

Oklahoma's still flat by the way.

Not as flat as some of the contestants!

(Bringing it back on-topic )

good one.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

There really should be a law against hawt women getting tattoos, it's like scribling across the Mona Lisa or something.

I must wholeheartedly disagree with you here... To me, there aint nothing more beautiful than a pretty girl with tattoos... It's just a shame that little Miss Kansas didn't have more than the one piece.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If I put on some weight and grew a beard, I would be Henry VIII.

I don't think your wife likes this plan. Careful you may be Henry, but she may be Lady MacBeth...

Better than pining for Anne Boleyn.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If I put on some weight and grew a beard, I would be Henry VIII.

I don't think your wife likes this plan.

One would suggest that if this is the case then he's picked pretty much the best person in history to deal with this meddlesome priest spouse no ?

Good point.

I'd also like to note that, in rebuttal to the US is EVILLZZZ RACISTS because of some twitterjerks, I believe the Miss America contest already had several African American winners.

OT but if they are married can they compete?

 reds8n wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
If I put on some weight and grew a beard, I would be Henry VIII.

I don't think your wife likes this plan.

One would suggest that if this is the case then he's picked pretty much the best person in history to deal with this meddlesome priest spouse no ?

That was Henry II

Ahh, people are so stupid.

Just gonna stick to my Canada in the corner over here....

Mmmm, tasty casual racism/ignorance on Twitter. Now that's how you start a Monday.

Truly we live in a remarkable age. Back in the day you generally had to talk to someone personally, or maybe over the phone to really get the casual racism to come out. Occasionally some idiot would forget the whole 'dog' part of 'dog whistling' and it'd end up in the paper or on the news, but they stood out for that reason.

Now whatever hurtful, hateful, bigoted and/or ignorant thing someone wants to share can be tossed out there for public consumption, permanently and all but irrevocably tied to them if they're dumb enough or people are invested enough in the matter.

It's an ugly aspect of our species, but through technology we have what can prove to be a self correcting problem. Instead of finding out after decades whether or not someone was secretly a giant gakbag, now a mere perusal of their FB and/or Twitter page can generally give one a solid idea.

Truly we live in remarkable times.

 gossipmeng wrote:
Just gonna stick to my Canada in the corner over here....

Dude, you live in Toronto.

That's not something to be proud of.