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I think the main reason GW dropped specialist games is because the games don't require you to buy a bucketload of figures to play them.

Other than the move away from metal, that is a very valid reason.

That reason isn't quite as valid with Epic and Warmaster though. I think they wanted to cut the amount of different models they want to produce in addition to getting rid of metal models.

And there's always the fact that historically, GW loves to promote the line for a Specialist Game before it comes out so there is a large amount of initial sales, but then hates to keep the game around and spend effort to continue to sell it. Even when Specialist games was at it's height in the early 2000's, you would see a game like Battlefleet Gothic get an article and advertise as new releases in White Dwarf for about six issues, and then everything would go silent like the game never existed.

They love those initial splurge sales, but then hate to keep anything around that can threaten their core lines. Look at Space Hulk 3rd ed. It wasn't even a matter of changing over to plastics, and there is a strong demand even these years later, but they refused to sell it after the initial glut of "Limited Edition" purchases. $100 copy of Space Hulk means little Timmy isn't buying $100 of Space Mehreens.

GW does this with their mainline games too! Like 40K, from edition to edition were New & Different Rules, changes, rather then corrections and clarifications! They buff up armies edition to edition and then neuter them next. That is
They lost me and my son, that is for sure. They were always high priced but now they puke up 40k 6th and it is a new game... AGAIN! We continue to play 5th edition but have sworn off the GW Crack and are going straight.

Apparently there are way too many people, in my opinion, with too much disposible cash, that continue to line the pockets of GW but it will stop somewhere, of this I am sure. We are just glad we only got into 40k and have kicked the habit. I did get to play some of the dumped games and enjoyed them but GW dose not get another dime from us. In Fact I won't if they were on
RANT OVER!

The fact that Necromunda has been dropped still fills me with so much sadness. Truly my favorite game bar none.

I'm glad that ebay still has a healthy stream of models and that they can be found at good prices. I'm going to aim to have the whole range (except the rare, never produced models that go of $80 each!). I already have 6 gangs (Ratskin, Scavvy, Escher, Delaque, Redemptionist, Orlock), so just 5 more to go.

It just feels weird I'm now going to be one of "those gamers" who plays an old out of production game, haha.

If Necromunda was dropped because GW really thought it meant people wouldn't spend the money on 40K, then they are sorely mistaken. These specialist games stimulate minature buying, and I think for most people they would buy models for small skirmish games as well as larger armies.

I got into Necromunda when I was about 11 years old. Even back in 2nd edition 40K the biggest hurdle was reaching the point of having a first full army. Nowadays when models are so much more expensive and armies must be twice as large as they used to be, this hurdle is even greater. Skirmish games are a great way to get you playing while you collect enough models for a full 40k or WHFB army.

I can only hope now there will be a limited edition gift set like Space Hulk and dread fleet.

 Bottle wrote:
The fact that Necromunda has been dropped still fills me with so much sadness. Truly my favorite game bar none.

I'm glad that ebay still has a healthy stream of models and that they can be found at good prices. I'm going to aim to have the whole range (except the rare, never produced models that go of $80 each!). I already have 6 gangs (Ratskin, Scavvy, Escher, Delaque, Redemptionist, Orlock), so just 5 more to go.

It just feels weird I'm now going to be one of "those gamers" who plays an old out of production game, haha.

If Necromunda was dropped because GW really thought it meant people wouldn't spend the money on 40K, then they are sorely mistaken. These specialist games stimulate minature buying, and I think for most people they would buy models for small skirmish games as well as larger armies.

I got into Necromunda when I was about 11 years old. Even back in 2nd edition 40K the biggest hurdle was reaching the point of having a first full army. Nowadays when models are so much more expensive and armies must be twice as large as they used to be, this hurdle is even greater. Skirmish games are a great way to get you playing while you collect enough models for a full 40k or WHFB army.

I can only hope now there will be a limited edition gift set like Space Hulk and dread fleet.

Necromunda is my second favorite GW game - only Mordheim rates higher.

Playing in a Necromunda game right now - as Delaques, mostly because of the awesome, awesome Not-Delaque-No-Sir-No-How figures by Heresy.


(There is a 15% off sale, right now.)

Another player is waiting with 'bated breath for the Jailbirds from the Toughest Girls in the Galaxy Kickstarter - from what he has seen he likes them better than the original Escher figures. (But he is going to need to make some weapon swaps.)

The Auld Grump

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 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
The fact that Necromunda has been dropped still fills me with so much sadness. Truly my favorite game bar none.

I'm glad that ebay still has a healthy stream of models and that they can be found at good prices. I'm going to aim to have the whole range (except the rare, never produced models that go of $80 each!). I already have 6 gangs (Ratskin, Scavvy, Escher, Delaque, Redemptionist, Orlock), so just 5 more to go.

It just feels weird I'm now going to be one of "those gamers" who plays an old out of production game, haha.

If Necromunda was dropped because GW really thought it meant people wouldn't spend the money on 40K, then they are sorely mistaken. These specialist games stimulate minature buying, and I think for most people they would buy models for small skirmish games as well as larger armies.

I got into Necromunda when I was about 11 years old. Even back in 2nd edition 40K the biggest hurdle was reaching the point of having a first full army. Nowadays when models are so much more expensive and armies must be twice as large as they used to be, this hurdle is even greater. Skirmish games are a great way to get you playing while you collect enough models for a full 40k or WHFB army.

I can only hope now there will be a limited edition gift set like Space Hulk and dread fleet.

Necromunda is my second favorite GW game - only Mordheim rates higher.

Playing in a Necromunda game right now - as Delaques, mostly because of the awesome, awesome Not-Delaque-No-Sir-No-How figures by Heresy.


(There is a 15% off sale, right now.)

Another player is waiting with 'bated breath for the Jailbirds from the Toughest Girls in the Galaxy Kickstarter - from what he has seen he likes them better than the original Escher figures. (But he is going to need to make some weapon swaps.)

The Auld Grump

I have to say that is a great lot of Miniatures to use as Delaques. Personally been converting a few gangs, but if I get the money and chance, I want to use this as my Cawdor gang.



Not as cool looking as the original Cawdor Models, but I would use them as that.

Also, I think Games Workshop does not like fun other than "Just play our Main games and do not ask about our Specialist line". Then again, that might be me.

 necrovamp wrote:
Don't want to be a Cynic here, but....

Warhammer historical was set to release a WW2 set.

Then Bolt Action along with Black Powder and hail Ceaser got popular, a pie which priestly has got his filthy fingers into.

Battlegroup Kursk came out. Written by Warwick Kinrade, a writer for Forgeworld, that and I heard somewhere PSC was only meant to be Eastern Front. But then just randomly started putting out allies.

Oh and not forgetting Battlefronts U.K head office used to be in Lenton, is now in Beeston, for non geographical inclined people, that is a approximately a car ride of between 20mins - 30mins if that.

Either the historicals range was cancelled due to competition from the above or..

My personal opinion is that they have all done a deal. Meaning while the writers are able to write for other companies it allows GW to concentrate on their main earners.

Or I'm talking crap in my opinion, but the facts are right, or were at time of posting

Yer... pretty much all wrong there.