Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Marbo.

I always explain his 'He's behind you!' rule as "Marbo was already there disguised as a rock/tree/rubble, we just decided to fight where he was waiting."

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The Alpha Legion are masters of subterfuge and infiltration.

Spoiler:

In the Horus Heresy, the Alpha Legion harvested fresh Raven Guard corpses from the battlefield of Istvaan III and surgically transplanted the faces onto Alpha Legion operatives. The operatives consumed the flesh of the Raven Guards, allowing them to absorb their memories (natural ability of Space Marines). And their own memory was psychically wiped, so that they forgot their true name and instead referred to themselves as Alpharius. They knew they were not the Alpharius, but if exposed thats the only name they would and could give because they'd forgotten their true name.

This allowed them to infiltrate the surviving Raven Guard forces as they fled the planet. Once they arrived at Deliverance, they carried out a plan (devised by Omegon, the twin Primarch of Alpharius) that involved formenting a rebellion in the Tech Guilds of Kiavahr (the planet orbited by the moon Deliverance, the home base of the RG). This provided a distraction that alowed the Alpha Legion to sabotage Corax's attempts to rebuild his legion through a drastically accelerated process of genetically engineering Astartes using the original Primarch Project geneseed (the original material used by the Emperor to create the Primarchs). The Alpha Legion stole the technology and promised to give it to to Horus (though planned to use it to further their own agenda).

-Deliverance Lost.

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
Purple Kommandos Have YOU ever seen a purple ork?

 buddha wrote:
Fluffwise nothing can beat the Necron Deathmarks. They exist in their own pocket dimension and emerge just to hunt you from anywhere in the galaxy.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 buddha wrote:
Fluffwise nothing can beat the Necron Deathmarks. They exist in their own pocket dimension and emerge just to hunt you from anywhere in the galaxy.

Sound like mandrakes.

 Shandara wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 buddha wrote:
Fluffwise nothing can beat the Necron Deathmarks. They exist in their own pocket dimension and emerge just to hunt you from anywhere in the galaxy.

Sound like mandrakes.

Sounds like Daemons.

Da krimson barun wrote:

 Dakkamite wrote:
What on earth are Ork Kommandos doing on there? They're pure garbage

.....Why are morks teeth sticking out of your back?Does that new skull of snikkrots remind you of someone?And besides.Paint kommandos purple and even smurfs will be fooled!

 Dakkamite wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:

 Dakkamite wrote:
What on earth are Ork Kommandos doing on there? They're pure garbage

.....Why are morks teeth sticking out of your back?Does that new skull of snikkrots remind you of someone?And besides.Paint kommandos purple and even smurfs will be fooled!

Because I'm looking at their rules, not their fluff.

I absolutely love Blood Axes fluffwise, and Kommandos are some of the coolest Ork stuff out there.

But rules wise they're absolute trash. I've been looking at allies options to field as Blood Axes, and might use Marbo as rules for Snikrot

deepstriker wrote:
Fluff wise says the best infiltrators are the Raven Guard. They move with silence and stealth.

 Peregrine wrote:

deepstriker wrote:
Fluff wise says the best infiltrators are the Raven Guard. They move with silence and stealth.

Marbo does not move with silence and stealth. Marbo simply changes reality and appears wherever he needs to appear.

Creed does not move with silence and stealth, as he prefers to use his tactical genius to infiltrate a titan wherever it needs to be.

So the only question here is whether the Raven Guard would find all of their spare bolter ammo replaced with demo charges, or suddenly realize that what they thought was one of their fellow squad members is actually a Reaver titan. Either way, they lose.

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Marbo.

I always explain his 'He's behind you!' rule as "Marbo was already there disguised as a rock/tree/rubble, we just decided to fight where he was waiting."

 Iron_Captain wrote:

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Marbo.

I always explain his 'He's behind you!' rule as "Marbo was already there disguised as a rock/tree/rubble, we just decided to fight where he was waiting."

Marbo does not hide from the enemy.
The enemy hides from Marbo.

DEUS VULT wrote:

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
Wouldn't this go to Necron Wraiths?

I know it's Ward fluff, but they're described as able to phase out of existence and still be able to walk (slither/crawl lol) amongst enemy troops and phase back in at will to assassinate the enemy commander or destroy vital materiel, etc. They can even just phase certain parts back in to disable an organism's connection to its brain or heart, for an undetected kill.

I mean nothing in the 40K-verse I know of has that sort of capability, and in the abundance that the Necrons have with their legions of wraiths - these are far greater than Deathmarks in terms of their overall utility. Other units/entities from other races are indeed skilled, but that took years of training and experience. A wraith comes off the assembly line with that capability and from the second its CPU is activated pretty much.

Is that what the fluff says these days???? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!!

 Furyou Miko wrote:

DEUS VULT wrote:

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
Wouldn't this go to Necron Wraiths?

I know it's Ward fluff, but they're described as able to phase out of existence and still be able to walk (slither/crawl lol) amongst enemy troops and phase back in at will to assassinate the enemy commander or destroy vital materiel, etc. They can even just phase certain parts back in to disable an organism's connection to its brain or heart, for an undetected kill.

I mean nothing in the 40K-verse I know of has that sort of capability, and in the abundance that the Necrons have with their legions of wraiths - these are far greater than Deathmarks in terms of their overall utility. Other units/entities from other races are indeed skilled, but that took years of training and experience. A wraith comes off the assembly line with that capability and from the second its CPU is activated pretty much.

Is that what the fluff says these days???? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!!

Actually, old fluff had them as even more awesome infiltrators, because while Wraiths have always had that phase-in, phase-out ability to Kitty Pryde their way to victory, under the old Necron fluff they were actually Necrons, not robots - so they had carried over their skills at the silent kill from when they were alive.

Deathmarks don't just teleport in, their fluff states that they're already there, just shifted into a folded space - nowhere does the fluff imply that they teleport. In fact, it pretty much states that they can't move while in Hyperspace, which means they have to get into position, then shift into hyperspace to hide, then wait for their prey to pass them by - so not only do they have to have excellent sneaking skills, they have to be able to predict the enemy movements perfectly and get it right every time.

HOWEVER,

Since Eldar Pathfinders have the handwave of authordom stating that they're the stealthiest infiltratiest sneaksters in the entire galaxy, and a bunch of them got ambushed by Kroot, I'm going to have to say that Kroot win this contest.