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 insaniak wrote:

Davor wrote:
I don't understand. A lot of people chided GW for not supporting the tournament scene. So how come this was never brought up until now about GW being swindled so that is one of the reasons whey they quit.

This is big news why they left. Why not bring it up and not before, or nobody knew why GW stopped supporting the tourney scene?

This is the problem with GW not having any real PR setup, No explanation was ever given as to why GW stopped supporting events, so it was left up to the community to speculate... and so obviously some of the speculation wasn't too flattering for GW.

Mind you, 'Some people are abusing the system, so we're just canning the whole shebang' probably wouldn't have been well-receive, either, If a few TO's rorting the system was really the reason for GW pulling tournament support, I expect that people would have preferred if they had looked (or at least made the appearance of looking) for some way to overhaul the system to make it less abuse-prone...

 Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:The ultra-cynic in me wants to say that, if true, it'll be there way of stopping 3rd-party miniatures in events with prize support. Want prize support? 100% GW miniatures only.

From my understanding a lot of tournaments still use the old "75% GW parts" metric.

Where i am from, they dont even require GW models to begin with.

I would much rather they develop and even charge for a well tested tournament supplement.

 azreal13 wrote:

That's the philosophy I've lived up to.

Except sometimes it didn't work, so I had to give it up.

 insaniak wrote:

Davor wrote:
I don't understand. A lot of people chided GW for not supporting the tournament scene. So how come this was never brought up until now about GW being swindled so that is one of the reasons whey they quit.

This is big news why they left. Why not bring it up and not before, or nobody knew why GW stopped supporting the tourney scene?

This is the problem with GW not having any real PR setup, No explanation was ever given as to why GW stopped supporting events, so it was left up to the community to speculate... and so obviously some of the speculation wasn't too flattering for GW.

Mind you, 'Some people are abusing the system, so we're just canning the whole shebang' probably wouldn't have been well-receive, either, If a few TO's rorting the system was really the reason for GW pulling tournament support, I expect that people would have preferred if they had looked (or at least made the appearance of looking) for some way to overhaul the system to make it less abuse-prone...

IIRC, the system did evolve from year 1 to year 2 in response to some of the shenanigans going on. And they WERE going on, although I think the vast majority of events were playing nice. But my impression was that it was a combination of factors that did it in, including shenanigans, the departure of the guy running the thing, and probably some basic "why are we supporting this/dealing with this/footing the bill for this" thinking on GW's part.

To be fair, I'm not sure what GW could have said about their decision to kill off tourney support that would have smoothed things over. They probably thought it best to just it die as quietly as possible.

To Davor's question, IIRC some things were aired on Dakka and probably elsewhere at the time. Other things were kept quieter. As far as the idea that players would have known if shenanigans had happened...well...I don't think the vast majority of players are really that clued into all the different things that go on at the TO level.

 azreal13 wrote:
Did nobody invite Bodazooka to the meeting where we all agreed to trash GW and everything it stood for at every opportunity?

No?

Guys! Seriously, how can we perpetrate a massive conspiracy if we don't TELL people about it?!!

I'm sorry for having an opinion?

Oh, seriously?

Unpucker a little, you'll feel better.

 azreal13 wrote:
Oh, seriously?

Unpucker a little, you'll feel better.

Man.. I don't know you, this is an internet forum, please don't be offended if I take what you say more literally than what you intended. Maybe add a next time

xxvaderxx wrote:
I would much rather they develop and even charge for a well tested tournament supplement.

I would pay lots of dollars for a tournament supplement that was frequently FAQed, etc.

Too Little... Too late... Good Luck to the rest you guys.