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 Sir Arun wrote:

 TheSilo wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 bocatt wrote:
What is the Dark Eldar Warlord table? Just for curiosity's sake

1: All friendly dark eldar faction models with 12" have fear
2: Reroll seize, night fight, and reserve rolls (would have been Vects if he was in there)
3: Rage
4: Hatred
5: +1 Ws
6: All friendly dark eldar faction models with 12" have fearless

Lol, +1 WS, what a troll WL trait.

Because having all your attacks hit on 3s instead of 4s is so terrible. I think it's a better WL trait than Rage.

+1 WS on an archon or succubus is pointless, they're already at WS 7/8 respectively and will always hit on 3's. The only time it'd be useful is on a haemonculus who happens to be fighting a WS 5 characters. And in the grand scheme of battle, having a 12" arc of fear or fearless is much better.

Even better is that is the trait Lilith has. Ws9 to 10. Thanks Gw, thanks.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Even better is that is the trait Lilith has. Ws9 to 10. Thanks Gw, thanks.

The Avatar of Khaine cannot hit her on a 3+ anymore yay

You said Wych weapons got the nerfbat. Could we get specifics? What do they do now?

Someone earlier said Cronos were 1-3 now. Is that true? And are Talos also increased in squad size?

 Jimsolo wrote:
You said Wych weapons got the nerfbat. Could we get specifics? What do they do now?

Someone earlier said Cronos were 1-3 now. Is that true? And are Talos also increased in squad size?

Cronos and Talos squads are 1-3.

Shardnet and impaler used to give you +1 attack and minus 1 attack to all models in base contact. Now its reroll 1s for hits and wounds

Hydragauntlets were D6 + 1 attacks. Now its ap5 and shred.

Razorflails were reroll all hits and wounds. Now its ap5 and reroll hits

Only benefit is that you can take 3 per 10, and they are half the points, were 10pts now 5pts

Does anyone have any reliable information on the Haemonculus Covens supplement? I've only found two reviews, both on BOLS and both completely illegible gibberish.

 Jimsolo wrote:
Does anyone have any reliable information on the Haemonculus Covens supplement? I've only found two reviews, both on BOLS and both completely illegible gibberish.

Only thing I heard was the increase to the already good Grotesques getting IWND.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:
Does anyone have any reliable information on the Haemonculus Covens supplement? I've only found two reviews, both on BOLS and both completely illegible gibberish.

Only thing I heard was the increase to the already good Grotesques getting IWND.

There's a ton of lovely things for covens.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/10/hamonculus-covens-preview-by-black.html

Pictures

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/10/dark-eldar-coven-supplement-formations.html

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/10/dark-eldar-coven-supplement-contents.html

If you play anything resembling covens you'll want it simply because of the 4 HQ 6 Elite slot so you can force more wracks/grotesques in there.

Negative, wracks are elites regardless. The coven supplement will make them troops.

Actually, no. It's more akin to the Champions Of Fenris List - their force org chart doesn't require (indeed can't take!) troops.

A coven force is going to have issues with armour; the only real antitank firepower available to it is the odd lance shot off a raider and heat lances or haywire from Talos. At the same time, the army is ridiculously tough. The fact that you don't even have to take wracks if you don't want to and can instead jump straight to a grotesque-based force - a sort of coven terminator army? - makes them faintly ridiculous.

Power from pain has been updated - mostly because the codex version doesn't help coven units at all*. Their version is much tastier for coven units:
Turn 1 - Nothing
Turn 2 - Fearless
Turn 3 - Fear
Turn 4 - It Will Not Die
Turn 5 - Zealot
Turn 6 - Eternal Warrior

Note that since the coven coterie gets so many HQ choices, almost every unit in your army will be +1 level on the table


Also - grotesques now ALL have the option of liquifier guns. Yes, the liquifier is now only S3 but still, the amount of wall of death hits a decent sized unit can generate is ridiculous. Worse yes, a WWP strike with no scatter can easily lay 4 or more templates across a target infantry squad and melt half of them before they can say "where the frak did they come from?"



* They already have feel no pain, either have poisoned weapons or ridiculously high strength (so furious charge is useless), and don't have fleet so may not get the charge so rage isn't much cop either.

* They already have feel no pain, either have poisoned weapons or ridiculously high strength (so furious charge is useless), and don't have fleet so may not get the charge so rage isn't much cop either.

FC would enable Grotesques to re-roll wounds against Plague Marines.

Though rage is good for them a bit due in part the mass poison melee attacks and the precision point WWP, but still the new chart is far better for them considering they will be running high amounts of Haemon.

Means I should probably check my mail box to see if I got the book.

 Sir Arun wrote:

 TheSilo wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 bocatt wrote:
What is the Dark Eldar Warlord table? Just for curiosity's sake

1: All friendly dark eldar faction models with 12" have fear
2: Reroll seize, night fight, and reserve rolls (would have been Vects if he was in there)
3: Rage
4: Hatred
5: +1 Ws
6: All friendly dark eldar faction models with 12" have fearless

Lol, +1 WS, what a troll WL trait.

Because having all your attacks hit on 3s instead of 4s is so terrible. I think it's a better WL trait than Rage.

when you are native WS 7, 8 or 9 how many times are you not hitting on 3s?

Of course if you get +1 WS on your Haemi or Urien, it might show some use.


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 Sir Arun wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
Even better is that is the trait Lilith has. Ws9 to 10. Thanks Gw, thanks.

The Avatar of Khaine cannot hit her on a 3+ anymore yay

Kharn still hits her on 2+

Reminded me vaguely of the infamous Dark Angels Codex from 2005 i.e. very stripped back, although not to the extremes of that DA book.

It feels like a deluxe version of a 40K 3rd edition Codex.

Does the 'Horrors Of The Dark City' boxed set actually make a play-out-the-box army? Just curious, I really like the contents of the box and fancied something to paint over the winter...