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Are you sure all his point totals are correct? It's no fun bringing 1500 to a 2000 fight.

His opponent's list is 1600pts, based on a legal build with the gear and units mentioned.

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
His opponent's list is 1600pts, based on a legal build with the gear and units mentioned.

SJ

List I used against it-
CCB
-Nightmare Shroud
-Phase Shifter
-Warscythe

10 Warriors
-Gark

5 Immortals
-Night Scythe

Doom Scythe

Doomsday Ark

5 Lychguard

Minimum Canoptek Harvest w/ Gloom Prism and 3x Whip Coils

So yeah, probably uneven.


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I know what I can do to help you guys help me
Here's my collection. I really want to use Necrons mainly to win.

CCB
5x Lychguard w/ Warscythes
3x Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
8x Scarabs
30x Warriors
7x Immortals w/ Gauss
1x Ghost Ark
1x Doomsday Ark
1x Night Scythe
2x Night/Doom Scythe (Magnets OP)
1x Cryptek

And for allies...
(I don't have the Tau codex at the moment)
3x Stealth Suits (1x Fusion)
1x Railgun Hammerhead
24x Fire Warriors
3x Plasma Crisis Suit
3x Fusion Crisis Suit
Ethereal
Cadre Fireblade
3x Fusion Piranha
4x Gue'Vesa (Pathfinders)
6x Pathfinders
Darkstrider
Devilfish

(I have the IG Dex)
Baneblade
LRMBT
Funisher (Pask)
2x Demolisher
10x Vets w/ GL
Lascannon Sentinel

"Deathwatch Kill Team"
(Tactical Squad w/ Melta and Combi Melta)
20x Hammernators
5x Lightning Claw Terminators
16x Tactical Terminators
Terminator Librarian
Land Raider
Terminator Captain

Ok, so here's a thing I plan on using.

Catacomb Command Barge (215)
-Warscythe
-Phase Shifter
-Nightmare Shroud

Warriors (235)
-Gark

Immortals (215)
-Night Scythe

Min Canoptek Harvest (239)
-Whip Coils

Allies:
Tau

Cadre Fireblade

12x Fire Warriors

3x Fusion Suits

1x Plasma Suits

1x Fusion Piranha

1x Fusion Piranha

1x Fusion Piranha.

Viable?

How about that they can all take hammers now for the Paladins. That awkward moment where you don't read the codex carefully

All of that AP 2 should do nicely. Especially since he can't kill more than a unit a turn with his deathstar if you avoid multi-assaults correctly. The issue is that unless it's strength 8, you are looking at a 5+/5+ for each wound, so you'll need a lot of shots to kill the deathstar.

Since he's not bringing Draigo, he will have some difficulty getting gate of infinity, so you can just use the baneblade to literally melt that unit (it has a str 9 ap 2 large blast right?)

Ignoring the deathstar really is the best option, however

Taking fast units and ignoring the death star and playing the objective game is your second best bet. Taking the baneblade is your best bet. Insist on playing with bao/LVO FAQ, so you can still blast/template India units at bs1.

-PURGED-

Tell him in us only sets a units bs /WS to one. When he disagrees, tell him to show you in his rulebook. Make sure he is rolling for his powers. If he generates with cards, insist he rolls, because statistically he shouldn't get in is against you every game. He probably has his in is card marked, if he randomly generates at all.


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 Verviedi wrote:

greytalon666 wrote:
Taking fast units and ignoring the death star and playing the objective game is your second best bet. Taking the baneblade is your best bet. Insist on playing with bao/LVO FAQ, so you can still blast/template India units at bs1.

This is a person who believes the entire internet is lies and only follows GW rules.

Doesn't seem like he does that too well without a rulebook. I'd print out the bao/LVO FAQ and bring it to your next game. They've done a good job of trying to rebalance the game and fix things. Insist on at least trying the FAQ out, after all, you are both friends and just trying to have a good time, right?

-PURGED-

There is a difference between homebrew and widely accepted tournament rules.


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If you give up on fun, and you aren't playing WAAC tournament/tournament prep, you should honestly quit playing and find a new game.

I personally find the super competitive tournaments a lot of fun. I don't mind playing fun games, but if given a choice, I'd always choose competitive. This isn't what your friend is doing though.

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Same opponent, new armies, same old story.

 Verviedi wrote:

greytalon666 wrote:
There is a difference between homebrew and widely accepted tournament rules.


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If you give up on fun, and you aren't playing WAAC tournament/tournament prep, you should honestly quit playing and find a new game.

I personally find the super competitive tournaments a lot of fun. I don't mind playing fun games, but if given a choice, I'd always choose competitive. This isn't what your friend is doing though.

Sorry, I meant I gave up on fun when playing him. I can still enjoy other games. To him, non GW = homebrew.

If you can still enjoy games with other people, just play other people.


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What does he do if he doesn't roll invisibility?

greytalon666 wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:

greytalon666 wrote:
There is a difference between homebrew and widely accepted tournament rules.


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If you give up on fun, and you aren't playing WAAC tournament/tournament prep, you should honestly quit playing and find a new game.

I personally find the super competitive tournaments a lot of fun. I don't mind playing fun games, but if given a choice, I'd always choose competitive. This isn't what your friend is doing though.

Sorry, I meant I gave up on fun when playing him. I can still enjoy other games. To him, non GW = homebrew.

If you can still enjoy games with other people, just play other people.


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What does he do if he doesn't roll invisibility?

Lose.

As in forfeit and say "you win, new game?" Or does he actually play it out?

greytalon666 wrote:
As in forfeit and say "you win, new game?" Or does he actually play it out?

He plays it out. He's a good guy when the power doesn't go to his head.

I just finished painting up some more stuff. I now have 3 Fusion suits, 3 missile suits, and 3 plasma suits.