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 ImAGeek wrote:
If I were going to do Carcharodons, I'd draw all the tattoos on with a really thin black marker. So much easier than trying to control a brush to do it, and on grey or white they'd show up.

That is a great idea, and I feel silly for not thinking of it! I have been so scared of free hand, and a marker would do the job!

But which marker to use? I haven't had much luck with ink. It always seems to slide right off. Ill admit the tattoos are half the reason I want to do this, so I need to do them well!

I figure most people can't do those small designs because they try to do them as complex as the picture books. Simplicity will be the key here I believe.

Even though the scheme is rather bland I think its got a lot of potential. Instead of worrying about several colours I can focus on depth. This may be the perfect canvas for my new "total drybrush" technique!

Micron pens. You can pick up a set for about $10 to $15 at most hobby/art stores. That's what I use on mine and it looks great. I use a 0.2mm size. Only thing you have to be careful with is varnishing over it. Certain varnishes will make the ink run. I think that problem mostly occurs in the aerosol varnishes.

So basically the conclusion of this thread is:
1. They're a cool chapter with awesome tactics
2. They look badass
3. Tyberos is a pretty cool guy.

And discourse on the mechanics of Latin is best left to linguistics professionals...

As for modeling the rank and file troops.....

Remember that after the Badab Conflict, the Carcharodons rampaged across the Mantis Warriors and took anything they could from the destroyed chapters armory. Current model power armor, weapons and even Transport would be widely available.

I recently started a Carcharodon force myself.

A handful of lightning claw termies, a small squad of tac termies and a trio of Librarian Termies.
An Assault squad kitted similar to the Raven Guard with dual lightning claws and a jump pack Chaplain.
Some Tactical marines with a bunch of chaos chainswords for a slightly offbeat look.
More scout snipers/ assault scouts armed again with a bunch of close chaos combat weapons.
Two small squads of devestator marines to provide small skirmish heavy weapon support.
A whole crew of heavily armored dreads with several Mortis style dread for heavy support
Some techmarines and a master of Forge to allow me to field a crew of dreads if desired.
A big chunk of chainsword wielding bikers supported by some meltagun trikes.
Landraider crusaders, predators and a vindicator for some armored punch for handling Monstrous creatures.

I agree the tattoo marks are a pain to recreate. I am trying to use ink and a tiny brush to paint them on and its working, but not as well as I would like.

No desire to field Tyberos. He runs his part of the chapter. My troops fly far and wide on their own at this point. All the leadership comes from normal HQ types. I always felt the strength of the Carcharodons lies in each soldier doing his thing versus one guy who carries the whole unit with OP rules. Oh, and dual twin linked Las cannons/autocannons. Those help a little bit also.

I am also putting together a BFG fleet for my little force. A little creative sculpting on some chaos warships allows you to recreate the old model ships used back before the Heresy. A reasonable group of modern Marine support craft help tie the modified chaos ships back to their Imperial designs.

airinhere wrote:
No desire to field Tyberos. He runs his part of the chapter. My troops fly far and wide on their own at this point. All the leadership comes from normal HQ types. I always felt the strength of the Carcharodons lies in each soldier doing his thing versus one guy who carries the whole unit with OP rules.

Agreed with your other points, but not quite so much here. I'm a fan of bringing Chapter Masters for my marines when I can because Orbital Bombardments are groovy, and if I'm going to bring one for a chapter, I want to actually bring the active Chapter Master if he's named and has his own rules.

I also don't really feel like Tybby is OP. End of the day, he's only inches better than an equivalently equipped/costed Chapter Master because of his Red Thirst +Strength thing. Slightly undercosted for his wargear, but still is a T4 unit without Eternal Warrior, and without any shooting.

 SRSFACE wrote:

airinhere wrote:
No desire to field Tyberos. He runs his part of the chapter. My troops fly far and wide on their own at this point. All the leadership comes from normal HQ types. I always felt the strength of the Carcharodons lies in each soldier doing his thing versus one guy who carries the whole unit with OP rules.

Agreed with your other points, but not quite so much here. I'm a fan of bringing Chapter Masters for my marines when I can because Orbital Bombardments are groovy, and if I'm going to bring one for a chapter, I want to actually bring the active Chapter Master if he's named and has his own rules.

I also don't really feel like Tybby is OP. End of the day, he's only inches better than an equivalently equipped/costed Chapter Master because of his Red Thirst +Strength thing. Slightly undercosted for his wargear, but still is a T4 unit without Eternal Warrior, and without any shooting.

I get both logic, but I would be bringing Redwake fo' sho' for same reasons you would. Same reason I bring Typhus and Asterion!

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