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Any news on which sub-faction the F2P orks will be in (or is it all of them?)

Check the link. There are 4-5 factions per race.

Well, except for space marines, who are more like 10 factions. Which I guess at least mirrors Games Workshop's obnoxious antics.

I actually meant - will all the ork F2P ers be in the same ork faction (eg Goffs or Blood axes?) - which is actually what my original question asked.

I think they were actually all relegated to Ork starter classes, wtih the only orks able to go past that were those who paid.

Ah - that makes sense - thank you.

On a related note - is there any news on how sub factions will work re guilds and/or groups - if I eg pick Dark Angels, will my 'squad/friends/guildmates' be obliged to be Dark Angels too, or is the faction thing just cosmetic?

 eddieazrael wrote:
Ah - that makes sense - thank you.

On a related note - is there any news on how sub factions will work re guilds and/or groups - if I eg pick Dark Angels, will my 'squad/friends/guildmates' be obliged to be Dark Angels too, or is the faction thing just cosmetic?

Just cosmetic, you can play with your friends no matter what Chapter you all pick.

They just sent out a newsletter with a survey. Very nice.

I pray that my cries for lore fidelity are heard.

I hope gameplay takes a higher priority than lore fidelity, regardless.

Fortunately it is possible to accomodate both.

Still no TTK fix in sight. Space Marine had okay TTK, a bit too low but it was somewhat passable. This looks much worse.

Slowly drifting from hope to 'meh, I may as well keep playing WoW then.'

But much remains to be seen.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Fortunately it is possible to accomodate both.

Still no TTK fix in sight. Space Marine had okay TTK, a bit too low but it was somewhat passable. This looks much worse.

Slowly drifting from hope to 'meh, I may as well keep playing WoW then.'

But much remains to be seen.

TTK?

I probably know that acronym from somewhere but can't put my finger on it.

Also yes it's possible, but not if your definition of "Space Marine" is "Mary Sue", like many peoples. I'm not accusing anyone here of anything, but I have run in to a lot of people who see "Space Marine" and think "Unstoppable badass who cannot lose because he's a god on the battlefield"-- and that is not true, and never has been true. Doesn't stop people from arguing it constantly.

If so, I wouldn't have had anything to say because it is Astartes vs Astartes, eh? Don't worry, my beliefs here have firm lore roots. I wouldn't use headcanon as arguments in anything like this.

TTK is Time To Kill. High TTK is very appropriate for a game like this (even if we account for the increased weapon lethality) because, whether you're Astartes or Nob, you're fiendishly tough to kill.

It also means less reliance on CoD-esque quickscoping and camping. I don't mind CoD, I've played a lot of it in my days, but it would be a lot better for Guardsmen VS Cultists than Astartes VS Orks VS Eldar.

(If you're concerned it would make the players too powerful, keep in mind that relatively speaking, saying that firepower is nerfed is just as accurate as saying that toughness is buffed).

Actually, I felt Orks died too quickly in Space Marine. I mean FFS you could kill half a dozen just by stomping your foot.

The stomp attacks were a bit odd, yes, but otherwise Orks in Space Marine were perfect. Boyz are sawed down in short order, Nobz are utterly deadly but survivable as long as there isn't more than one or maybe two at once, and the Warboss eats fire like a tank.

Consistent with what we read in the game lore.

So... have they ACTUALLY shown off any of the non-marine type factions yet? Because I was following this game for a while and they keep going on about how there'll be Orks and Eldar and Tyranids, yet did't show them off.

Also, why no Dark Eldar? I understand that making a game requires more money for the more assets you add, but if they can make Spiky marines just by changing the skin, why not make spiky elves as well?

Dark Eldar might come later.
But, making a game work at all takes time, making it with options adds to that time. There's a cut-off point where you're holding a game back because of nice-to-haves, and the project crashes.
So, keep asking for DE through the forum and any questionnaires they send out. But, they're not going to be there at release. DE are more than just spiky Eldar. Their weapons are different, and they fight differently, too.

I look forward to butchering and teaming up with all those involved

Closed Alpha is starting on Monday 14th September. Still only SM vs CSM.

Is there a post anywhere listing all the referral codes people have posted?
Here are a couple I've come across (mine is one of them):

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Pick a random code when you sign up, and you'll get free points.
I'll shuffle them once in a while. (Shuffled 10 times)

Has anyone else tried the early-access yet?
I'm not in until next month.

For those of us who bought the Warrior pack, look in your account for a Steam key.
Or, get a Warrior Founders pack (use a referral code when registering), and wait to get given early access.

Got early access through a few days ago, the steam key was quite well hidden took me a while to realise it was there.

First impressions are not great, but its early days, it looks really nice and the enviroments are top notch too.
Im looking forward to seeing how it goes, if the team in charge do nearly half of the stuff they have talked about it should be a decent game.

I played for a few hours, and I've played less-capable alphas.
The announcements are suggesting that more content is going to start coming along soon.

Here is a basic class overview. Nothing Special but gives you a look at the main classes for Space Marine:




Also I've started to uploaded my play sessions with my Chapter via Twitch, feel free to follower me and I can answer stuff while I stream - http://www.twitch.tv/vigiliamortis




Will be doing more of these videos with feedback about other features which people may find helpful

My biggest issue with Eternal Crusade is not the gameplay (TTK is WAY too low in my opinion but I've covered that), nor is it the model.

It is the visual style.

No, not the unfinished models, or the missing models. The visual art style.

it is just... inferior.

Quite frankly:

This is Space Marine.



This is Eternal Crusade.

Yeah, the exaggerated "dough" look is pretty "in" for fantasy stuff.

Thanks, WoW. I guess.

Which is pretty funny, because the former is a WoW cinematic model, whereas the latter is a model from Heroes of the Storm.

They did it to Starcraft, also. NuBlizzard loves that gak.

Few more videos of game play as a small team:







Enjoy

Yeah, way too low TTK still. Killed by a few bolt rounds right to the breastplate, wtf.

No thank you.