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**vipoid**

Oberron wrote:

Except that isn't how the Lance rule works and isn't how modifiers apply. lance is a constant effect not just when it is shooting.

How can it be a constant effect?

Are you telling me that the Lance is affecting the Ghost Ark even when it's not shooting it?

Oberron wrote:

There is still conflict because set modifiers apply at the same time there is no other order they apply in.

That's incorrect. If two effects would happen simultaneously, then the player whose turn it is gets to chose the order in which they happen.

So even if, as you seem to think, say there's no order to apply the effects (because lance weapons are apparently affecting every model on the field at all times

), then the DE/Eldar/nid player can still choose for QS to happen first, and then the Lance rule.

I guess QS overrides Lance during overwatch, though.

**Oberron**

vipoid wrote:
Oberron wrote:

Except that isn't how the Lance rule works and isn't how modifiers apply. lance is a constant effect not just when it is shooting.

How can it be a constant effect?

Are you telling me that the Lance is affecting the Ghost Ark even when it's not shooting it?

Oberron wrote:

There is still conflict because set modifiers apply at the same time there is no other order they apply in.

That's incorrect. If two effects would happen simultaneously, then the player whose turn it is gets to chose the order in which they happen.

So even if, as you seem to think, say there's no order to apply the effects (because lance weapons are apparently affecting every model on the field at all times ), then the DE/Eldar/nid player can still choose for QS to happen first, and then the Lance rule.

I guess QS overrides Lance during overwatch, though.

I made a thread for lance vs qs here

**Slayer-Fan123**

Those threads usually end in an unhappy manner.