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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 23:47:50
Subject: Re:New Starter sets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hopefully the formation is good, but so many cool stories are spinning in my head of having a tech priest with a small guard looking for a tech artifact splashed into my marines or guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/02 23:53:31
Subject: New Starter sets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote: Gamgee wrote:I can't say our prices are that bad at all. I'm not paying anywhere near as much for things as New Zealand and Australia. Ontario here.
Then again I have like a 27% discount the majority of time.
You might wanna check out the cost of the Wraith Knight in Canada compared to NZ and Aus. Or the Terminator Librarian.
That is a strange anomaly. And yet it's still a better value than the majority of gakky video games coming out these days.
Oh how the world has changed.
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Damn... i gotta grab me a starter set asap with my discount will be insane. For the Tau. I could use all the things in the boxed set and its basically 10 more dollars than buying just three crisis suits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 01:20:30
Subject: Re:New Starter sets
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casvalremdeikun wrote:I would love to see stuff like this for other armies eventually. Ultimately, these kits really do include the core units(kinda, the Tyranid one needs Genestealers or one of the gaunts instead of Gargoyles) of the particular army. For example, a Space Wolves pack would include Krom Dragongaze, a Space Wolf pack, and Space Wolf Venerable Dreadnought. Or they could do something different and have it include Bjorn instead of the Space Wolf Lord.
The Tyranid one looks like it'll go really well with the Swarm box. That has all the gaunts you'll need for a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 01:49:05
Subject: New Starter sets
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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So, any idea why Canada prices are so damn high ?!
BTW, GW seems to change its ways, with the revival of the Specialists, these price cuts etc...
It's good to see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 02:10:28
Subject: New Starter sets
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Canadian Dollar tanked, so GW decided to take this opportunity to jack up our prices.
Wanna bet they "forget" to change them back once our dollar becomes the same with the USD later?
EDIT: for those of you trying to get friends into the game, the Tau set is probably the best way to do so now.
Why? 4 dollar miniatures. The Tau set effectively has all of them averaging out at 4 bucks a piece.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 02:50:06
Subject: New Starter sets
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Fixture of Dakka
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:The main problem I have with these is that, if you don't count the overpriced character, there isn't much savings to be had.
Oh please explain my fellow Canadian.
$64.50 for Hive Tyrant
$61 for Warriors
$34.75 for Gargoyles.
=$160.25 Canadian.
How is a savings of $60.25 not much of a savings to be had? Where in Canada is a 37% savings no much savings?
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 02:53:41
Subject: Re:New Starter sets
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I might just have to get the Tau one. I like the Ethereal on his hoverdrone, and considering the price is basically "buy a box of Crisis suits, get an Ethereal and 10 Fire Warriors for $10 (US)", it is a truly great deal. If I was interested in starting another army, I'd do the Admech one, as it is almost as good. Edit: spelling
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 02:55:42
Subject: New Starter sets
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think I said this else where. Will say it here.  I swore 2016 I wouldn't be spending much on GW just like the last few years. Now GW turns around and does this. DAM IT! Now I want the Spheron, (I think they are called that, the Fantasy Lizards) didn't think I wanted an Age of Sigmar Army lol. And those Necrons and Tau look good as well.
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS, 2016 looks like to be an expensive GW year for me.
I think Hell just froze over. Did the Maple Leafs win the Lord Stanley Cup? GW has turned around and giving out great discounts now.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 04:41:59
Subject: New Starter sets
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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Tau and Skitari sold out in Aus already.
Listed as "Email me" instead of "Sold Out", so perhaps a sign that they didn't expect this to go down so well and the offer will be sticking around for a while? Lets hope so.
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 05:12:53
Subject: New Starter sets
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Davor wrote: MechaEmperor7000 wrote:The main problem I have with these is that, if you don't count the overpriced character, there isn't much savings to be had.
Oh please explain my fellow Canadian.
$64.50 for Hive Tyrant
$61 for Warriors
$34.75 for Gargoyles.
=$160.25 Canadian.
How is a savings of $60.25 not much of a savings to be had? Where in Canada is a 37% savings no much savings? 
I forgot to exclude the Tyranids. My bad. But look at the SM one and it's only a 5 dollar discount if you don't count the Terminator Captain. Same thing goes for the Cadian one.
Also, for those in the future that will nitpick him apparently not seeing the "overpriced character" and counting the Hive Tyrant anyway: I specifically meant the clampack characters. The Hive Tyrant is overpriced (I think it should be 45 CAD) but not something that seems like was tossed in just to make it a legitimate discount.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 07:59:33
Subject: New Starter sets
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The tau, skitarii and tyranid ones are all pretty decent deals.
If only the Necron box had a vehicle I would've wanted, might have started my Necron army...
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 08:06:02
Subject: New Starter sets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Dark Eldar one seems bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 08:16:28
Subject: New Starter sets
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Crazyterran wrote:The tau, skitarii and tyranid ones are all pretty decent deals.
If only the Necron box had a vehicle I would've wanted, might have started my Necron army...
For Necrons, the battle box is a much better deal. The Triarch Stalker is not a must have in a Necron army.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 09:56:00
Subject: New Starter sets
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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GW wanted to show just how much they hate DE, BA, Harlequins and Orks, so they released special deals that save you no money and give you crap units and a crap codex while the other favoured armies get a bunch of discouts on OK to great units and free formations. Ya know, just to kick you when you're down.
CSM meanwhile gets nothing, because GW has forgotten they exist. Probably for the best really.
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 10:11:39
Subject: New Starter sets
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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wuestenfux wrote: Crazyterran wrote:The tau, skitarii and tyranid ones are all pretty decent deals.
If only the Necron box had a vehicle I would've wanted, might have started my Necron army...
For Necrons, the battle box is a much better deal. The Triarch Stalker is not a must have in a Necron army.
Really? I've found they perform very well in the games I've played with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 10:13:09
Subject: New Starter sets
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Triarch Stalkers are situational, maybe useful in the formation.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 10:52:55
Subject: New Starter sets
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The underpowered armies all come with a codex. Trying to get more people collecting them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 11:14:57
Subject: New Starter sets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Trying to move product more like.
They should have just kept the same style across all factions.
Disappointed with the Ork one. DE I just don't care for at the minute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 12:27:26
Subject: New Starter sets
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Nasty Nob
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That's the thing, if they'd released a decent DE and Harlies box set, I'd have bought them in a shot.
But out of that lot, the only ones that interest me are maybe the tau and tyranid sets.
I'll probably hang on though tbh, and see if they do something with the eldar factions.
The AoS sets are much more tempting. I'm quite likely to pick up Nurgle, Chaos and Seraphon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 15:06:51
Subject: New Starter sets
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Vankraken wrote:The Necron box has one of the lower % discounts and it has to compete with its own Battleforce which is a fairly good set of units to start an army for a similar % discount. Shame they couldn't match the value of the Tau box. Even bigger shame that the Orks didn't get a starter box. Orks could of used a good box set after that cluster gak that was the Mek Mob set.
I thought the mek mob set was cool. I didn't get it, but i thought it was a cool set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 15:11:15
Subject: New Starter sets
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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I'm tempted by the Tau one (will expand my army, but annoyed as I bought the campaign box for the Ethereal, and the fire warriors and Crisis suits when they came out!), the Nid one (with my mostly un-assembled Swarm box might be a solid army core?) and the Mechanicus one (can use the Dominus and Skitarii in 30k, not sure what I'd do with the Dune Crawler though...).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 15:13:50
Subject: New Starter sets
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Dakka Veteran
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Canadian Dollar tanked, so GW decided to take this opportunity to jack up our prices.
Wanna bet they "forget" to change them back once our dollar becomes the same with the USD later?
Actually, the starter prices in CAD are cheaper than in USD. If it were actual parity with current rates, the starter boxes would cost $117.75 CAD. They're discounting the boxes in Canada, compared to the US.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 15:26:03
Subject: New Starter sets
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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coldgaming wrote: MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Canadian Dollar tanked, so GW decided to take this opportunity to jack up our prices.
Wanna bet they "forget" to change them back once our dollar becomes the same with the USD later?
Actually, the starter prices in CAD are cheaper than in USD. If it were actual parity with current rates, the starter boxes would cost $117.75 CAD. They're discounting the boxes in Canada, compared to the US.
If you use logic and math, how else can we be raving idiots on the Internet?
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 16:08:44
Subject: New Starter sets
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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coldgaming wrote: MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Canadian Dollar tanked, so GW decided to take this opportunity to jack up our prices.
Wanna bet they "forget" to change them back once our dollar becomes the same with the USD later?
Actually, the starter prices in CAD are cheaper than in USD. If it were actual parity with current rates, the starter boxes would cost $117.75 CAD. They're discounting the boxes in Canada, compared to the US.
The price wasn't balanced towards how much they cost from the UK or the US, but based on how much the contents are priced at. Since some of it was older content (and thus hasn't been jacked up in price) they would have run into the issue where there was almost no discount at all. This is most evident with the Imperial Guard box, since most of it is 5th edition vintage where the price was much better.
When our dollar was almost the same as the USD, we still paid 10% more. Same issue with the Aus and NZ. Just check out the weird prices of the Wraithknight across the four countries and remember that this thing was priced when our dollar was strong.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 17:15:12
Subject: New Starter sets
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Master Sergeant
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I saw the tyranid set and was pleased to see a good price. Then I remembered that the game is garbage and the nid army a mess with a lousy dex and rules spread all over the place.
If this is the start to a change in business practices and GW plans to put serious effort into making 40K a good game and dexes/units/biomorphs/wargear reasonably balanced; doing proper errata; sell models and rules at reasonable prices; and re-engaging with the gaming community then that would be welcome.
Otherwise it is like sending someone into a burning house with a glass of water.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 22:17:38
Subject: Re:New Starter sets
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Apologies if someone has pointed this out earlier but I think the old Necron "starter set" (the battleforce) has now been removed from the store.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 23:00:42
Subject: New Starter sets
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Krazed Killa Kan
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KaptinBadrukk wrote: Vankraken wrote:The Necron box has one of the lower % discounts and it has to compete with its own Battleforce which is a fairly good set of units to start an army for a similar % discount. Shame they couldn't match the value of the Tau box. Even bigger shame that the Orks didn't get a starter box. Orks could of used a good box set after that cluster gak that was the Mek Mob set.
I thought the mek mob set was cool. I didn't get it, but i thought it was a cool set.
It was really too unfocused in what it offered with a Deffdread being something you rarely saw with trukk boyz/ MANz. The "Mek" really hurt the bundle as it is a horribly cost ineffective purchase for what amounts to a 15 point character that you throw in front of something in a challenge so your Nob or Warboss can swing his PK at the rest of the unit. Mek also has a KMS modeled which is a rather huge points waste plus if you really want a Mek model (just not as fancy) you can get one in a Loota/Burna box plus get 4 Lootas/Burnas for the same price. Meks aren't even a real HQ and is just a slotless character you can take for every HQ you have.
swalker91 wrote:Apologies if someone has pointed this out earlier but I think the old Necron "starter set" (the battleforce) has now been removed from the store.
That's a real shame they just took it down (it was up a day or two ago). Would of been a good addition to the Necron starter box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 23:37:50
Subject: New Starter sets
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Tau starter set seems like a very good deal $ wise
10 firewarriors - $50
3 Crisis Suits - $75
Special Edition Etheral - ~$20
So thats $145 for $85. VERY good deal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/03 23:43:17
Subject: New Starter sets
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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notredameguy10 wrote:Tau starter set seems like a very good deal $ wise
10 firewarriors - $50
3 Crisis Suits - $75
Special Edition Etheral - ~$20
So thats $145 for $85. VERY good deal.
You also get extra drones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/04 01:25:48
Subject: Re:New Starter sets
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The only one I don't like much is the Marine one. And that's from a marine player.
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