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Many things need to be on fire, particularly the heretics and the heresy.

Frateris Militia and Redemptionists could be two different options under an "Imperial Cult" unit entry.

Frateris Militia - rag-tag bunch of church-goers, ex-PDF types and the odd lay clergy, armed with autoguns and shotguns and things.

Redemptionists - mad insane loonies with eviscerators and flamers and exterminator cartridges on their shotguns and autopistols and clubs and knives and flails. Also flaming headpieces.

Redemptionists could even be 0-1 but I accept that the days of such restrictions are long past.

Many things need to be on fire, particularly the heretics and the heresy.

I remember producing a "Univeral Tactical Flowchart" for a friend with an Adepta Sororitas army:

Q1: Is it on fire?

Y: All is well. Continue to apply fire.

N. Q2: Should it be on fire?

Y: Heresy! Purge with fire! Apply fire.

N: Innocence proves nothing. Apply fire anyway.

Frateris Militia and Redemptionists could be two different options under an "Imperial Cult" unit entry.

True, but technically redemptionist loonies put in the front line are inducted as 'Frateris Militia' - the term just means 'We know the Ecclesiarch's not allowed and army, this is just a force of "concerned citizens" not directed by us, honest!'.

I'd definitely want the Frateris to have the opportunity to take exterminators and eviscerators, but ultimately I'm not sure it needs to be two seperate unit entries any more than 'chaos cultists with pistols and clubs' and 'chaos cultists with autoguns'.

 Elbows wrote:
I imagine you've picked up the old 2nd ed Sisters codex - it's great fluff (not sure how much has been retconned).

Most of it was never retold, never contradicted. How valid is it is up to interpretation. How AWESOME is not, though : it's AWESOME and there is nothing you can do about it!

 master of ordinance wrote:
This modern day "your depiction defends muh" stupidity pisses me off - look ladies, not everyone resembles a shapeless mound of flesh, and no, being 50+stone overweight is not healthy, and quite frankly women who have been trainied for combat are probably going to look closer to the Sisters we have now than to the Mconalds regular some want to push on us.

This recently released League of Legend character has been praised for having a different body type by the same people you seem to be ranted about:

I somehow don't think having some muscle is inconsistent with having been trained for combat, especially not when the alternative is skinny top-model look.

I just wish new Sisters models/artwork kept the thicker version of the current official interpretation of Sisters. Basically, Andrea Uderzo's drawings.

http://andreauderzo.deviantart.com/art/Retributors-42915169
http://andreauderzo.deviantart.com/art/Dominions-42895226
http://andreauderzo.deviantart.com/art/Celestians-42893988

I imagine you've picked up the old 2nd ed Sisters codex - it's great fluff (not sure how much has been retconned).

Nothing has been specifically contradicted. The "Chamber Militant" thing has largely disappeared into the background, but that's more because Grey Knights and Deathwatch apparently no longer have to answer to the Inquisition so much.

I just wish new Sisters models/artwork kept the thicker version of the current official interpretation of Sisters. Basically, Andrea Uderzo's drawings.

Agreed. Armour can be all elegant and stuff, as long as it still looks like armour. It's why I liked the Karl Urban judge dread film - yes, the uniform was instantly recognisable as 2000AD judges, but it also looked like it had a fighting chance of stopping a bullet.

locarno24 wrote:
The "Chamber Militant" thing has largely disappeared into the background

And that appeared only in 3rd edition iirc.

So I'm thinking of painting up my killteam in Order of the Valorous Heart colours. Mainly because I love the black robes on black armour, but there's other things about that scheme I can't seem to find consistent information on:

Some sources say they only have red on their ecclesiarchy badge and order symbol, but most art I see has red robe lining and red bolters, often enough the ecclesiarchy symbol isn't red either. Have the specifics of their colours changed?

I'm currently thinking black with grey highlights for the robes, cloth gloves, etc, blue-black glossy for the armour, emphasis on white trim and silver for the iconography, with silver and white for the weapons to make them stand out. Only place I really see the red working is on the inner lining of the robes and maybe the skull on the ecclesiarchy symbol.

Andrea Uderzo's art is absolutely stonking, some of the best Sororitas art out there. Would not be displeased in the slightest if they took inspiration from them for any re-release.

As far as Order of the Valorous Heart goes:

"Battle Sisters of this Order wear black armour as well as black cloaks. Cloak linings are white [as are their over-gauntlets if present], whilst the only trace of red evident in their uniforms is in the order badge [red heart on white Maltese cross] and Ecclesiarchy symbol."

Their boltguns and other weapons are gunmetal or other dark metal colour.

Information from Codex: Sisters of Battle (2nd Edition).

Other artwork depicts them as having red lined cloaks with white borders on the black, and red piping on their armour plate (knee rims, shoulder pad rims). with red cased boltguns.

The Ecclesiarchical symbol on their Chaplets are depicted variously as red with golden skull, or metal with golden skull - or wooden with bone skull.