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 Desubot wrote:
Well damn now i want to see what a skin tight powered armor would look like

Apparently it looks like this...



Or did, back in the day

Amberley Veil was also said to wear power armor on occasion. Although apparently hers was so blinged up that Cain mistook her for the Emperor when he was coming out of a stupor.

I'd also consider this piece to be pretty iconic for the Inquisition:

I think this power armour wearing inquisitor is pretty iconic:


Over the years GW has sold a bunch of inquisitor models with power armour, all unusable now.


Hell, they even had power armour when they were first introduced in the Rogue Trader.

 Fafnir wrote:
I'd also consider this piece to be pretty iconic for the Inquisition:

Spoiler:

Coteaz is the only one with a Psyber Eagle though, and he's still in the army. If it's an Ordo Malleus inquisitor in Terminator Armour, that's in there too.
That image, besides being one of the best pieces of art in the game, isn't really something they've ever used to draw hard lines to the rules for.

 Purifier wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
I'd also consider this piece to be pretty iconic for the Inquisition:

Spoiler:

Coteaz is the only one with a Psyber Eagle though, and he's still in the army. If it's an Ordo Malleus inquisitor in Terminator Armour, that's in there too.
That image, besides being one of the best pieces of art in the game, isn't really something they've ever used to draw hard lines to the rules for.

Okay, fine, if that doesn't count, here are a few more:

 Desubot wrote:
Well damn now i want to see what a skin tight powered armor would look like

Feels like you're wearing nothing at all! "nothing at all"

 Captain Joystick wrote:

GAdvance wrote:
In all those previous threads the acolytes were both cheaper and able to take other armour.

As it is they are 8pt guardsmen with bolters and a 6 man maximum

So after everything's said and done, you're paying 3 points/60% more for a different weapon arrangement (which includes combi-weapons, flamers, etc), the ordo-specific effect of quarry, the ability to take a bullet for the inquisitor herself, and free choice to take any dedicated transport you want, but less the ability to benefit from orders and Commissars

FTFY.

And I'd take 10 guardsmen over 6 Acolytes any day now.

Also note that the weapons available themselves are also more expensive. A plasma gun, for example, goes from 7 for your standard guardsman/vet/scion to 13(!) for our friendly neighbourhood acolyte.

craggy wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Well damn now i want to see what a skin tight powered armor would look like

Feels like you're wearing nothing at all! "nothing at all"

A Flanders quote ha, you're showing your age.

 Gunzhard wrote:

craggy wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
Well damn now i want to see what a skin tight powered armor would look like

Feels like you're wearing nothing at all! "nothing at all"

A Flanders quote ha, you're showing your age.

Stupid sexy inquisitors.

C.Straken wrote:
As an aside to Acolytes not being awesome now.

Has anyone else noticed (or have a reason for) Ordo Xenos being worse than Malleus and Hereticus.

Xeno only allows you to re-roll 1's but Malleus and Hereticus allows re-roll all failed hits.

It's because the Xenos bonus applies to a much larger range of enemies. The quarry rule for Malleus and Hereticus is practically useless when you aren't fighting Chaos (or Grey Knights for hereticus, hilariously enough.)

Real News wrote:

C.Straken wrote:
As an aside to Acolytes not being awesome now.

Has anyone else noticed (or have a reason for) Ordo Xenos being worse than Malleus and Hereticus.

Xeno only allows you to re-roll 1's but Malleus and Hereticus allows re-roll all failed hits.

It's because the Xenos bonus applies to a much larger range of enemies. The quarry rule for Malleus and Hereticus is practically useless when you aren't fighting Chaos (or Grey Knights for hereticus, hilariously enough.)

That was my first thoughts. But really when you look at it Xeno works against:
Eldar
Dark Eldar
Harlequin
Necrons
Tau
Tyranid
Orks

Hereticus works against
Chaos Marines
Chaos Daemons
Eldar Psykers (Most of their HQs and Elites)
Tyranid Psykers (All of their Synapse)
Ork Psykers (Insignificant really)
Grey Knights
Any Imperium Psyker

Malleus
Chaos Marines
Chaos Daemons

So Malleus works on the least variety but two of the most common armies. Hereticus probably has the most utility, though it works on HQ's mostly. Xeno works on armies which cannot for the most part ally across the board unlike Chaos and Imperium.

Maybe it is because it affects a bigger list of Factions, but you only ever fight one opponent. If they are using Chaos, then you choose Malleus or Hereticus and get full re-rolls. Thry use a Xeno you choose Xenos and only re-roll 1's. Still seems odd.

Well Ordo Hereticus generally is only going to work on HQ units, which as characters are going to be hard to target

I'm just annoyed because it's seems like the inquisition only losses options, but never gets them.

I am disappointed by the drop, but 3 wounds did seem a little high. Still wish they at least had carapace armor and options for storm shields.

Worse yet is the Jokaero and Daemonhosts. The Jokaero cannot ride in any transport and neither of these are characters so they could be picked off by nearly any weapon with range.

C.Straken wrote:

Maybe it is because it affects a bigger list of Factions, but you only ever fight one opponent. If they are using Chaos, then you choose Malleus or Hereticus and get full re-rolls. Thry use a Xeno you choose Xenos and only re-roll 1's. Still seems odd.

Tailoring your list to counter your immediate opponent is frowned on in many competitive environments, and as far as I know most tournaments require you to submit your list in advance. There are also WYSIWYG-related concerns that come up when you go around saying your inquisitor is hereticus in one game and xenos in the next, if WYSIWYG is important to you. The wargear restrictions aren't there anymore, but if I see a guy in a witch hunter hat on the table I'm going to assume he's hereticus, and if I see a guy with a hammer I'll assume he's malleus. Just a question of sportsmanship really.

If you aren't tailoring and you're building a TAC list then you'll usually have to assume that the odds of fighting a Chaos army are minuscule compared to the combined odds of fighting Eldar, Dark Eldar, Harlequin, Necron, Tau, Tyranids or Orks. As for psykers, they make up a tiny portion of most armies and tend to be characters who can rarely be targeted with shooting anyway.