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Any genuine Orc vehicle.
ALL my Orc vehicles are salvaged from other factions, my Death Skullz are just too good at lootin’.
Mind you, I am guilty of drooling over the Orc flyers, as soon as I find a good looking way of making them look stolen I’ll probably grab one or two.

Thunderwolf Cavalry, no doubt.
I think the idea of power armored marines riding giant wolves absolutely stupid and the minis awful.
And I throw with them Santa Claus Grimnar. I mean come on...

Because I don't buy models I don't like the look of:
Centurians
Those Primaris jump guys
Original Dark Eldar
Custodes
A SoB pipe organ Exorcist
Thunderwolf cav

Because I won't spend the $:
A Warlord+ tian
The 2 legged strider things for the AdMach - not at that price per model.

Because I don't know where I'd put it, or how I'd transport it to a game:
A Tau Manta dropship.

Cyclops Demolition Vehicles - I have never seen anyone use mines in 40K so as cool a concept as they are, it's not practical.

Colossus Bombard - Same reasoning as above really. If I can find someone who wants to do some siege warfare with me I might change my mind, but until then...

 IronSlug wrote:
Thunderwolf Cavalry, no doubt.
I think the idea of power armored marines riding giant wolves absolutely stupid and the minis awful.
And I throw with them Santa Claus Grimnar. I mean come on...

Yes! These! I can't believe I forgot about those garbage Thunderwolves!

 Techpriestsupport wrote:
Have you ever committed to not getting a particular miniature for 40k even if yiu could use it and if so why?

I hate huge models and I wouldn't even consider anything bigger than a land raider, gorkanaut or stormwolf, which means no stompas or FW huge tanks. I also can't stand super heroes and characters that are too big compared to regular infantries. No footslogging dudes of the size of a dread or bigger.

I also avoid very expensive kits, I'd never pay for a single miniature the same cost of a starting collecting. But tipycally even that price is too much for a single miniature, I've only bought three models that were 60ish euro: the land raider crusader, stormwolf and the voidraven bomber, all with a 25% price cut though.

About the aesthetics I'd never buy identical models that aren't vehicles. So no more than a single original talos or grotesque, I converted tons of them. The only models that are identical in my collections are those 3 monopose gretchins, that are just one piece, but I need more than just a single box so I've settled with having multiple identical gretchins, at least they're cheap enough to justify the exception and see the gaming table pretty much everytime.

No finecast models, unless I found something very very cheap on ebay, mostly for converting into something else.

Also no primaris, of course. I don't like them at all. The only miniatures I own that I don't like and I've bought them only for gaming purpose are three drop pods which I'll be happy to sell as soon as possible. I usually avoid buying miniatures that I don't like, even if the army I play must rely on them to be competitive.


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 IronSlug wrote:
Thunderwolf Cavalry, no doubt.
I think the idea of power armored marines riding giant wolves absolutely stupid and the minis awful.

Lol, they're litterally the only reason I started a space marine army

For my Daemon army...Beasts of Nurgle. Expensive, ugly (and. It in the good Nurgle way), and just not worth it to me. They were expensive before and pain to work with (built literally a single one for a friend years ago), but now they’re MORE expensive and uglier. Can’t justify them. I’ll convert one, if I want it. But over a decade since Daemons got their own book and BoN came back as a unit...haven’t gotten one yet and don’t see the need.

Primaris.

As a Blood Angels player I refuse to buy any primaris models. I hate everything about them, they don't fit the rest of my army, and they are an obvious cash grab that I refuse to support with my money.

I also wont buy anything finecast. When I got into 40k one of the first models I ever bought was an Eldar Spiritseer, I had no clue fine cast was a thing and just assumed it would be plastic like my friend's chaos marines. When I saw and felt the model I felt like I was ripped off. It's part of the reason I switched to blood angels, since it's easier to convert the few finecast models for my army out of plastic.

 TechnoWitch wrote:
As a Blood Angels player I refuse to buy any primaris models. I hate everything about them, they don't fit the rest of my army, and they are an obvious cash grab that I refuse to support with my money.

I also wont buy anything finecast. When I got into 40k one of the first models I ever bought was an Eldar Spiritseer, I had no clue fine cast was a thing and just assumed it would be plastic like my friend's chaos marines. When I saw and felt the model I felt like I was ripped off. It's part of the reason I switched to blood angels, since it's easier to convert the few finecast models for my army out of plastic.

Not to try to start an argument, but truescale marines are something that have been highly requested for a very long time. Primaris bring that without forcing us to re-purchase our armies. IT allows the people who want tall marines to have them, and those of us who don't care, to not have to buy new stuff.

As for the topic, I was going to say I'll never own an eldar model, because I just don't like them at all. Then I recalled that I have a few eldar as basing material. That brought me to wonder if there is any model that I despise so much that I would never own for conversion or basing....I can't really think of anything.

Logan's dumb chariot.

-Any Primarch
-Literally anything Tau

Quite a few - all based on looks

Centurions
Wulfen
small Marine flyers
Santa Logan
Grey Knights baby carrier

Anything finecast

Any non-forgeworld space marine model released from sixth edition onward.

 Blackie wrote:

I hate huge models and I wouldn't even consider anything bigger than a land raider, gorkanaut or stormwolf, which means no stompas or FW huge tanks. I also can't stand super heroes and characters that are too big compared to regular infantries. No footslogging dudes of the size of a dread or bigger.

I also avoid very expensive kits, I'd never pay for a single miniature the same cost of a starting collecting. But tipycally even that price is too much for a single miniature, I've only bought three models that were 60ish euro: the land raider crusader, stormwolf and the voidraven bomber, all with a 25% price cut though.

About the aesthetics I'd never buy identical models that aren't vehicles. So no more than a single original talos or grotesque, I converted tons of them. The only models that are identical in my collections are those 3 monopose gretchins, that are just one piece, but I need more than just a single box so I've settled with having multiple identical gretchins, at least they're cheap enough to justify the exception and see the gaming table pretty much everytime.

This basically sums up my views.

The only difference is that even Gorkanauts and Stormwolves are too large for my taste.

 H wrote:

I don't understand why people hate metal miniatures so much though. I'm not at all an expert modeler, but I never really had issues building metal kits. I'd say the most difficult was the old meta Dark Elf Hydra. Getting the necks to stay took a little time, but that model has been rock soil since. Metal is astronomically harder to convert than plastic, but I've even done small ones on some of my old Sisters of Battle.

For me, I dislike metal for a few reasons:

1) Some metal models are a pain to assemble. In fairness, I think it was the older kits that gave me the most trouble, but still.

2) I like converting models and, whilst not impossible, metal is a much more difficult material to work with in that regard.

3) I. Hate. Painting. Metal. Models. It never seems to matter how much time I spend scrubbing them before priming them, they still end up chipping if you so much as cough in their general direction. On more than one occasion I've tried to drybrush a metal model, only to discover that my brush was removing more paint than it was adding.

 vipoid wrote:
For me, I dislike metal for a few reasons:

1) Some metal models are a pain to assemble. In fairness, I think it was the older kits that gave me the most trouble, but still.

2) I like converting models and, whilst not impossible, metal is a much more difficult material to work with in that regard.

3) I. Hate. Painting. Metal. Models. It never seems to matter how much time I spend scrubbing them before priming them, they still end up chipping if you so much as cough in their general direction. On more than one occasion I've tried to drybrush a metal model, only to discover that my brush was removing more paint than it was adding.

Well, like I said, to me, it's a trade off. They are indeed "harder to build" but much harder to break. I think a big part is, I leaned how to deal with the oddities of building metal minis. I haven't found a way around the badness of bad resin (because some warps are just too much to bend back, no matter how warm you get it). Here, I think experiences lead us different conclusions, because my only experience with resin is bad, so overall, I am sour on resin. My overall experience with metal is that it's definitely more of a pain than plastic, but overall, has solvable problems that take time, but can be overcome.

I never had the experience though of paint not sticking though. Back in the day, it was easier for me to get a hold of spray paint, rather than primer, so nearly everything I had was done in Rustoleum Painter's Touch paint. I never had a case where that wouldn't stick and I never washed anything before priming.

Minis from factions which I don´t like namely Tau & Necrons. Why? Take a look in the "how to improve a faction thread".

If we're opening it up to Factions, then <IMPERIUM> is a hard limit, even if I buy Cadians/AM minis.

 H wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
For me, I dislike metal for a few reasons:

1) Some metal models are a pain to assemble. In fairness, I think it was the older kits that gave me the most trouble, but still.

2) I like converting models and, whilst not impossible, metal is a much more difficult material to work with in that regard.

3) I. Hate. Painting. Metal. Models. It never seems to matter how much time I spend scrubbing them before priming them, they still end up chipping if you so much as cough in their general direction. On more than one occasion I've tried to drybrush a metal model, only to discover that my brush was removing more paint than it was adding.

Well, like I said, to me, it's a trade off. They are indeed "harder to build" but much harder to break. I think a big part is, I leaned how to deal with the oddities of building metal minis. I haven't found a way around the badness of bad resin (because some warps are just too much to bend back, no matter how warm you get it). Here, I think experiences lead us different conclusions, because my only experience with resin is bad, so overall, I am sour on resin. My overall experience with metal is that it's definitely more of a pain than plastic, but overall, has solvable problems that take time, but can be overcome.

I never had the experience though of paint not sticking though. Back in the day, it was easier for me to get a hold of spray paint, rather than primer, so nearly everything I had was done in Rustoleum Painter's Touch paint. I never had a case where that wouldn't stick and I never washed anything before priming.

Haven't had nearly as bad of a problem, but I have had paint chip off of models primed with Rust-Oleum after some use.

Agree with resin. I've shopped for and bought space ships made with resin, some are so bad I've considered tossing them. I also have Mk II Marines that need elbows bent to make the Bolters fit.

 H wrote:

Well, like I said, to me, it's a trade off. They are indeed "harder to build" but much harder to break.

That's fair.

 H wrote:
I think a big part is, I leaned how to deal with the oddities of building metal minis. I haven't found a way around the badness of bad resin (because some warps are just too much to bend back, no matter how warm you get it). Here, I think experiences lead us different conclusions, because my only experience with resin is bad, so overall, I am sour on resin. My overall experience with metal is that it's definitely more of a pain than plastic, but overall, has solvable problems that take time, but can be overcome.

Yeah, it sounds like we've just had different experiences.

I've definitely had some bad times with Resin - particularly with the Necron range. On the other hand, I've also had many resin ones - even ones with very small/delicate parts - that have been fine. And some of these allowed me to make conversions that would have been impossible with metal models.

 H wrote:

I never had the experience though of paint not sticking though. Back in the day, it was easier for me to get a hold of spray paint, rather than primer, so nearly everything I had was done in Rustoleum Painter's Touch paint. I never had a case where that wouldn't stick and I never washed anything before priming.

I'm the opposite - even the primer barely sticks to my metal models, and any paint I add after that seems to get chipped almost instantly.

I've also given up on washing metal models because it has never once made an ounce of difference.

I have never once had a positive experience with a metal model.

 vipoid wrote:
I have never once had a positive experience with a metal model.

3 Questions, I might know what's happening.

1- What kind of humidity do you have where you live?

2- Where do you store your models?

3- What you scrub your metal models with before painting them?

 vipoid wrote:
3) I. Hate. Painting. Metal. Models. It never seems to matter how much time I spend scrubbing them before priming them, they still end up chipping if you so much as cough in their general direction. On more than one occasion I've tried to drybrush a metal model, only to discover that my brush was removing more paint than it was adding.

You're doing it wrong.
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 H wrote:
I never had the experience though of paint not sticking though. Back in the day, it was easier for me to get a hold of spray paint, rather than primer, so nearly everything I had was done in Rustoleum Painter's Touch paint. I never had a case where that wouldn't stick and I never washed anything before priming.

Rustoleum Automotive Primer for metal. or old school Citadel Black. 'nuff said.

Anything Genestealer Cult related. Hate everything about GSC and the way they look.

I don't think I will ever own anything Ork related. I think the faction is great, I've just hit my limit on armies to focus on.

For armies I own, here are some models I have no plans to pick up:
Dark Angels:
Primaris Captain. I just don't need one. He doesn't do anything I can't already do better with other models. I already have the Gravis armored one anyway.
Primaris Chaplain. I like the model, but the rules are just so meh...
Stalker/Hunter. I just don't really need one of either of these for my lists.

Chaos Space Marines:
Mutilators. Such butt ugly models, and crap rules on top.
Defiler. See above, except less crappy rules (still bad, but not as bad as Muties)
Lucius the Eternal. No, just no.
Kharybdis Assault Claw: Too expensive in money and points.

Chaos Daemons:
Keeper of Secrets. Too small and ugly. Maybe if they give it a nice new plastic kit I might consider one.
Skarbrand. I just don't see myself ever actually using him.
Beast of Nurgle. Way too expensive in money, and not great rules either.

Death Guard:
Plague Surgeon. Rules are just not good. Only way I'll get one is if I pick up the battleforce box, which seems unlikely at this point.

Tau Empire:
XV106 R'varna: Expensive in terms of money, and not that good in game. Cool model, though.
KX139 Tau'nar: Even if I could afford one of these, it's beyond my modelling skills to assemble and paint it.

Other:
Titans (any type). I don't have the money or skills to reasonably take one of these on. Plus I'd hardly ever use it even if someone gave one to me.

Well, there’s some armies I have no interest in - Chaos Daemons, Orks, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, and Sisters of Battle, so I’ll never buy minis for those.

However, out of the factions I do have, you’ll never find me with a GW Taurox (I have a proxy model made from a half-track) - that thing is just a modeling fail. Also, the SM Thunderfire cannon - unless they remake it in plastic, I’m not investing in GW Finecast gak (though if someone could point me to a decent proxy, I’d consider it....)

Then of course, any of GW’s “character” models - I’m not paying their ridiculous prices for *one* figure - and I doubly have no interest in named characters; I just refuse to play in games where the likes of Bobby G is in every freaking battle.

 Stormonu wrote:
Well, there’s some armies I have no interest in - Chaos Daemons, Orks, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, and Sisters of Battle, so I’ll never buy minis for those.

However, out of the factions I do have, you’ll never find me with a GW Taurox (I have a proxy model made from a half-track) - that thing is just a modeling fail. Also, the SM Thunderfire cannon - unless they remake it in plastic, I’m not investing in GW Finecast gak (though if someone could point me to a decent proxy, I’d consider it....)

Then of course, any of GW’s “character” models - I’m not paying their ridiculous prices for *one* figure - and I doubly have no interest in named characters; I just refuse to play in games where the likes of Bobby G is in every freaking battle.

I agree. Taurox is simply aweful and once upon a time in 40K history you needed the approval of your opponent to field a named character. But today restrictions like that would be impossible to implement. Just imagine the salty whining and gnashing of teeth that would accompany such a decision.

I really don't like the current bloodthirster, though I may give in eventually. I've avoided it so far. I'd have to do some conversion work on it to be able to tolerate it.

I own some space wolves, but there's practically no chance I'll ever get thunderwolf cavalry or wulfen.

Anything Primaris for my Crimson Fists. I just don’t like the background material, or the aesthetic (both in general terms and how they look next to Classic Marines). So I’m planning on just keeping that army fully old school.

Orks: the current plastic Warboss. Just think the old metal ones are way nicer sculpts and much more characterful.

Anything: any Special Characters. Nope, just don’t care for them. Would rather create my own guys.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
3) I. Hate. Painting. Metal. Models. It never seems to matter how much time I spend scrubbing them before priming them, they still end up chipping if you so much as cough in their general direction. On more than one occasion I've tried to drybrush a metal model, only to discover that my brush was removing more paint than it was adding.

You're doing it wrong.

Thank you, that's very helpful.