Dropping Physical Codexes

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**shiner**

Mr Morden wrote:
Galef wrote:
shiner wrote:
I'm pretty sure anyone who says they can look up the page they want faster in a book (or several books at the table), have never actually tried using an IPad. The enhanced editions of the Codices link rules, points, special abilities, etc. right through the data sheets; and they trim down a lot of the lore and fluff pages that aren't useful in a game.
Speaking from personal experience, I can say with confidence that I have yet to bet beaten to the relevant rule in a book by someone using a tablet/phone. I almost always have the page open seconds before the person with a device has the "page" loaded
Admittedly, however, I do put sticky-note tabs in my books and am fairly meticulous in knowing where a rule typically is, so I tend to almost always just flip to it instantly

But that highlights my point about personal preference. GW should not dictate what the preferred media is, the player should be able to decide this.
99 people preferring digital media doesn't really matter to the 1 person that prefers the physical book, nor should it impact that preference.

"Paying more" for that convenience is also a very relative concept. Codices were around $30 before being hardback and consistently $40-$50 since
If hard copies remain $40-$50 while digital becomes cheaper and cheaper, it's all relative. I'm still buying the book, which hasn't really increases in price even though there is now a cheaper alternative
That is the way it should be.

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Agreed - thats even if they can find the relevant rule or page or are not relying ona third party download which is not always accurate.

I don't want to get caught in this endless loop of "mine is better than yours", but here goes: Like anything, it depends on the operator. I'm just as fast as those with a book, and in some ways faster because I use the enhanced ebooks the way they're supposed to be used; that is with the links, and the ability to highlight important text, and the thumbnail views of the entire book with 1 tap. I guess it just depends on who's doing the tapping, and who's doing the page turning.
And what is this "page loading" you speak of? I have a 2 year old IPad that only takes time to load the book at the start. The rest is instantaneous once the book is open.

**Andykp**

As I’m old I would like a book and some kind of quick reference cards like they did for the knights or in AoS. That would be my best.

**Just Tony**

First, it's codices, not codexes.

Second, I've pretty much bailed on modern GW rules and play retro. I still chased down new models that fit the games I play and that I like. However, GW going solely to digital would finally push me to the point that I would never spend a dime on any new GW products ever again, AND I would dedicate as much time as humanly possible to poison the well everywhere I had access.

**CapRichard**

Less paper = Better.
Free rules, paid fluff and that's It.

**Mmmpi**

BaconCatBug wrote:
Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
No.

I hate e-books.

An online page with points costs would be neat, but I would not want the whole book train to go digital.
You know you can just print them out if you want something physical?

You know you can just scan your codex if you want something digital?

See what I did there?

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Reemule wrote:
All industry shows that within a few years Eformat will be the norm.

Once that happens, print to order will kick in. If you desire a print book, pay extra and get it Printed.

This isn't my experience.

If you want to pay extra for your format, just buy a scanner and scan it.

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Galef wrote:
shiner wrote:
I'm pretty sure anyone who says they can look up the page they want faster in a book (or several books at the table), have never actually tried using an IPad. The enhanced editions of the Codices link rules, points, special abilities, etc. right through the data sheets; and they trim down a lot of the lore and fluff pages that aren't useful in a game.
Speaking from personal experience, I can say with confidence that I have yet to bet beaten to the relevant rule in a book by someone using a tablet/phone. I almost always have the page open seconds before the person with a device has the "page" loaded
Admittedly, however, I do put sticky-note tabs in my books and am fairly meticulous in knowing where a rule typically is, so I tend to almost always just flip to it instantly

But that highlights my point about personal preference. GW should not dictate what the preferred media is, the player should be able to decide this.
99 people preferring digital media doesn't really matter to the 1 person that prefers the physical book, nor should it impact that preference.

"Paying more" for that convenience is also a very relative concept. Codices were around $30 before being hardback and consistently $40-$50 since
If hard copies remain $40-$50 while digital becomes cheaper and cheaper, it's all relative. I'm still buying the book, which hasn't really increases in price even though there is now a cheaper alternative
That is the way it should be.

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I can find information faster in a physical book than I can in an E-book on a computer. And on a phone or tablet, it's even slower. I don't use sticky notes, usually just flip to the ToC, or Index and go from there.

Both is definitely the way to go. Considering most prints are loaded into the printer from a PDF, there's no reason that GW can't sell both. Unfortunately, their non-I product versions blow.

**Absolute_Maniac**

Good news everyone!
GW is updating digital codices with their new rules i.e. CSM codex will include all the points updates and rules from Shadowspear and the like.
Does anyone know if they've done something similar with digital codices and CA?

**Dandelion**

Absolute_Maniac wrote:
Good news everyone!
GW is updating digital codices with their new rules i.e. CSM codex will include all the points updates and rules from Shadowspear and the like.
Does anyone know if they've done something similar with digital codices and CA?

Enhanced editions on ios have always been updated with the FAQs and CAs.

**Mr Morden**

Andykp wrote:
As I’m old I would like a book and some kind of quick reference cards like they did for the knights or in AoS. That would be my best.

Agreed - They did them for Sisters - why are they not doing it for others I don't get.