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Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
The backgrounds in Final Fantasy VII to IX still hold up pretty well, especially if they were retouched up, because they are pre-rendered.
For example, here's one of the environments from Balamb Garden created by a fan as an example of what an HD remaster could look like:
Spoiler:
Looks pretty good to me. The jarring part was the character models looking out of place in the pre-rendered world. In that regard FF9 was the best as its character models fitted in best with the pre-rendered world.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
I don't have a link because my office blocks everything. But they have stated that there will be no National dex in sword and shield, which is usually how you get the full pokedex. They have implied that pokemon not included in the Galar Region pokedex will not be able to be transferred into Sword and Shield.
They have stated that the Pokemon Home app on the nintendo switch will be compatible with the Pokemon Bank for the 3ds and can hold every pokemon on it. So you can get your full national dex from sun and moon onto your switch. However you won't be able to get them in Sword and Shield yet. I have no doubt this will be an online patch at some point. Especially with as big a deal as the big pokemon tournaments are. Losing 3/4s of pokemon is huge.
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
I don't have a link because my office blocks everything. But they have stated that there will be no National dex in sword and shield, which is usually how you get the full pokedex. They have implied that pokemon not included in the Galar Region pokedex will not be able to be transferred into Sword and Shield.
They have stated that the Pokemon Home app on the nintendo switch will be compatible with the Pokemon Bank for the 3ds and can hold every pokemon on it. So you can get your full national dex from sun and moon onto your switch. However you won't be able to get them in Sword and Shield yet. I have no doubt this will be an online patch at some point. Especially with as big a deal as the big pokemon tournaments are. Losing 3/4s of pokemon is huge.
Gotcha. I am less confident that it will get patched. Consider it like MTG tournaments where only the last 3 waves of cards are tourny legal.
Pokemon has been getting a bit out of control for a long time now. By making each game a concise list of pokemon you can keep the game balanced around the current batches instead of having to balance everything always against everything that has come before it.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
It's in the Nintendo Treehouse which aired immediately after E3. You're not going to be able to transfer anything from Home to SwSh if it isn't in the SwSh regional 'dex, and this is going to be how the games work going forward. They cited game balance and animation quality as the reasons behind this change. So you'll be able to transfer everything from Bank to Home (Home being the replacement for Bank from Gen 8 forward), but you won't be able to transfer any Pokémon from Home to SwSh if it isn't in the regional 'dex, and you can't move Pokémon back to Bank from Home.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
Also, they now no longer need to find a place in the world to stick... 4 meteors, a magic lamp, a bunch of disk drives, a flute, a device to merge the B/W legendaries, a item to upgrade kaldeo, a magic mirror for the B/W trio, the ever growing list of mega stones, the ever growing list of z move carry items, A item to merge zygarde bits, a bunch of electronics to shift the forms of that electric ghost pokemon, etc etc...
Pokemon has gotten WAY out of control in terms of random ass gak you need to do gimmicks with all kinds of pokemon and having to reintroduce/reprogram the ever growing list of them into every game is a nightmare. Good on them for moving forward.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
The other aspect for them is moving to the Switch means a lot of work in animation and upscaling. That's a huge backlog of pokemon to work with, esp since most are unique enough that they aren't going to share much so you've got to work through each one from scratch.
I can see why they'd want to re-set it.
Also moving forward its likely because you've got a lot of new fans who don't have fire red or the old games and who honestly don't "want" to play those old very different (very limited by todays standards) games to get those rare missing pokemon.
I can see logic, but I can also see a lot of classic pokemon still turning up. The starters, legendaries, pickachu etc...
The only thing that makes me sad about it is that I had a team of pokemon that has earned the Elite 4 Champion Badge (and in ruby/sapphire the beauty pageant ribbons) in like the last 5 pokemon games and I really like transferring them over after I've beaten the newest game and getting them that extra ribbon on their profile.
So I'm gonna be sad if they can't all get their Sword and Shield badges.
Otherwise I don't much care. I always play the full game before transferring over anyway. I mainly use the transfer features as a way to quickly complete the pokedex.
They're using the same models they've had since X/Y which was released in 2013. They made the models much better than the 3DS could actually support specifically to future proof them.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
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Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
It's actually better today by and large, but try to keep one OS generation behind the current.
I'm on Win 8.1 right now and the list of games that I own that it won't run is tiny - even smaller when I include the few that refused to run, but which are now on GOG (such as Metal Fatigue). In fact right now the only games in the list are Populus ones (which are known to have an issue with win 8.1).
GOG has made great strides and whilst it does sometimes mean rebuying a game the regular sales and price of older software is pretty cheap - worth it and more for a fun game you're going to sink hours back into all over again.
HD remakes are great fun too - upscaling for a modern larger screen is loads of fun and I welcome the classics getting make overs.
GOG offer a bunch of old stuff but then games which is mostly patched up. Unfortunately awesome old games like Empire Earth dont work at all on newest windows.
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
They dropped the "gotta catch them all" thing a few gens back anyway where you would only need to have seen everything. It's more of a balancing move, but they haven't even mentioned how many pokemon will be in just that it would be a lot.
It's not the first time we've had to drop a bunch of pokemon only to have them added in over time. And when you are able to use them you'd just transfer them in from home anyway.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Here Here!
This has become a trend in electronic gaming lately, and I have abstained for the very reason you have listed.
So, I'll end the FF debate right here and now.
NO FF game has ever come anywhere near the greatness that was "The Legend of Dragoon."
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
See I have the opposite reaction. I can't be bothered to mingle with the peasants down on console lane.
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Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
Erm, this isn't exactly a common occurrence yeah? KotOR came out in 2003 and like, five and a half operating systems ago. It's so old the basic game never came with widescreen resolutions, and a lot of the issues stem from Bioware using wonky-ass methods that the modern OS devs just never thought to account for(for example, it doesn't play cinematics inside the game, it basically tabs the game out and opens a new window, plays the video in that, then switches back to the game - except that's so dumb nobody working on W10 considered it, so the OS gaks itself after the video finishes).
I've not had to "feth about" with PC for 99% of games(at the time they launched) for well over a decade now.
And hey, at least on PC there's a *chance* an old game will run off the bat, how many original XBox games run on the XBone, like, 20? And Sony & Nintendo expect you to rebuy everything by default.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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Alola didn’t have a National Dex either, so you couldn’t track anything outside of the Alolan ones.
You could still get them, though.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
That would have a lot to do with Zac and what went on in Crisis Core. You should really look more in to what happened in the story instead of saying stuff you know nothing about. Normally you are a lot more thorough in your arguments but here it just seems like "Could is whiney and I don't like it! Wah!"
Also here is the Original FF8 Gameplay. I agree, these things are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL. Look at that gameplay. LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE REMASTERED VERSION!
sigh
Do you guys know what you are talking about?
I think making arguments in the vein of "You don't know anything did you even play this game!" are incredibly shallow considering how much of this I have talked about thus far. For FF8: If those are the improved graphics then what was even the point? For FF7 my point is the story telling in a FF might have never been worse then it was in 7. As for Crisis Core, I never played that. Are you making the argument that in order to understand who Cloud, the main character of FF7, actually is you need to play an entirely separate game that came out 10 years latter?
Either from nostaligia or your mind filling in the blanks to make the pieces fit you (and others) have made cloud into a bad ass. He's not. FF7 is full of a lot of okay to really good character designs and a couple really good songs and a whole lot of nothing characters held together by a decent outline for a story that was poorly executed. People loved it because it was the first one on the PS and not sprite based. People loved it because it was so long it was on multiple disks and that makes it better right!, and because "cinematics". FF7 is all show.
What have you talked about thus far? So far all you have done is complain about how the characters are whiney and angsty. FF8 has improved Graphics and clearly you didn't have to wait for them to switch as I linked the old gameplay that CLEARLY looks different than the new gameplay. But I guess that doesn't really matter? FF8 still bad because GRRRR.
All the information about Cloud and what happened to him is in FF7 and it is fully explained. Crisis Core goes more in depth as to what happened to Zac, who is the protagonist and actual member of Soldier that. Zac saves his life gives him his iconic Buster Sword. Cloud does not start as a badass, but instead as a man who has just gone through a deeply troubling encounter and is thus thrust in to the role of Hero. Which he does not want but begrudgingly takes. No filling in the blanks here. He wasn't even a Member of Soldier so he was far from a badass. He was just a random goon helping Zac fight Sephiroth. Nobody here has claimed that he starts as one, but because he does end up becoming the hero, he becomes the badass as well. Not really any nostalgia. FF7 is far from my favorite FF game. But I at least represent the story correctly instead of whining about it.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
So, it is exactly the same except for the parts that are different? Gotcha. Sound logic.
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You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
On the one hand, I get it because there's getting to be a lot of the damn things and it's gotta be resource intensive to keep building up that kind of bloat, especially when many of them are probably pretty forgettable, both among fans and in terms of gameplay. I mean really, does anyone give a damn about Luvdisc? I feel like Pokemon should be finding ways to expand itself other than adding more Pokemon and really this is a problem of the franchise's own making. Why isn't there a Pokemon MMORPG at this point, honestly, other than Nintendo still looking at online content as something of tacked on consideration? Why hasn't the combat system appreciatively developed any further since Gen4? Why, given that there are people in their 40s now who love these games, has Pokemon remained a narrative dead zone for the most part? I feel like it would be nice to see Pokemon expand in other directions and cul some of its roster bloat.
On the other hand, the game is literally a collection game and I question how they'll decide to cull Pokemon from entries and manage that in the long term. I doubt any major favorites will go anywhere cause come on, like they're going to ditch fan favs for any reason, but reducing collectibility seems like the opposite direction for the very nature of the franchise that has built its popularity on giving people ever more ways and means of collecting digital critters.
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Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
So, it is exactly the same except for the parts that are different? Gotcha. Sound logic.
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To quote Thoros of Myr "It is and it isint"....The overall thing is the same... The marginal difference(so is it really a difference?) in all remastered old gen games which still looks like crap in today's standards is not worth it. Might as well remake it from the ground up, id pay for that sure.
Ive just seen too many lazy ports with slightly updated character models charging for 1/2 price of AAA game.
Just my opinion. Its a hook where you buy the game thinking its going to be great but then play it for 10 minutes before deciding actually the graphics are still crap and go onto play a new AAA game you bought recently but did not have time to play and forget about it. I'm only speaking from anecdotal experience.
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Nothing I have said has been disproven besides one person pointing out the scene where cloud throws sephiroth off a bridge (a single scene where cloud does something noteworthy).
My assessment of every character in FF7 stands. Cloud is a nothing character. Barrets 1 dimensional, vincent is a juvenile spank fest and the rest of them are whiney loosers (except Cid... who apparently has other problems i forgot about haha). Sephiroths motivations were cloudy enough that even if the game does spell it out professional reviewers still thought it was "muddy" likely because, as I said, the story telling sucks. FF7 continues to be all nostaliga and show. It's popularity is based on being the first polygonal jrpg, the first with cinematics, and the first on the play station. It's not the best at anything and taken side by side, merit for merit, it's only better then the absolute worst FF games (which are truely bottom tier garbage).
Again, despite all that, you might actually still like it. And thats fine.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Personally I liked FF8 more than FF7. But be that as it may, the old 2d FF games were as a whole more interesting gameplaywise than either one.
Ah well. FF7 is the one a certain generation got hooked on, and so its nostalgia factor is what they're banking on.
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Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Nothing I have said has been disproven besides one person pointing out the scene where cloud throws sephiroth off a bridge (a single scene where cloud does something noteworthy).
My assessment of every character in FF7 stands. Cloud is a nothing character. Barrets 1 dimensional, vincent is a juvenile spank fest and the rest of them are whiney loosers (except Cid... who apparently has other problems i forgot about haha). Sephiroths motivations were cloudy enough that even if the game does spell it out professional reviewers still thought it was "muddy" likely because, as I said, the story telling sucks. FF7 continues to be all nostaliga and show. It's popularity is based on being the first polygonal jrpg, the first with cinematics, and the first on the play station. It's not the best at anything and taken side by side, merit for merit, it's only better then the absolute worst FF games (which are truely bottom tier garbage).
Again, despite all that, you might actually still like it. And thats fine.
The soundtrack timing alone is the best of any game.. For example the music that rolls when you first step out onto the world map out of midgar realy captures the wonderlust... Anyhow,.Lance just doesn't like it for some reason and hes made up his mind.. Hes entitled to his opinions, or hi trolling whichever it is .
@ Lance - Sadly from various sources, I have heard that CID will be toned down quite a bit. He wont swear, smoke or be abusive towards sherra. (I was pretty sure he slaps sherra at one point...But I think I misremebered it, apologies) Also REDXIII is a kid during the game - Kind of like dog years so hes 48 but actually 14 or sumin? Its explained by the old floaty wise man in cosmo canyon. The scene with the puppies is right at the end of FF7 and pretty sure its prefixed with 300 years later or somin where midgar is all covered with green ivy.
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Ah... I thought the Red Xiii thing might have been a character wrap up moment. Isn't Red XIII a genetic experiment? Does that mean all Red XIIIs are hermaphrodites that self reproduce or did someone make Red XIII a lady friend in a lab?
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
RED was locked in the lab where the group finds him with Aries... He's descended from Cosmo Canyon and his name is Nanaki. Some sort of talking four legged thing. He's the son of warrior Seto whom he assumed was a coward who left his mother to die. Plot twist however, in actuality Seto fought to the death alone to save the village from the GI tribe!!
I'm not really sure what Hojo was doing. I personally think he didn't do anything to RED and I don't think its explained. I think the 'XIII' tattoo indicates specimen number...But that does not necessarily mean all tattooed specimens are sephiroph clones.
Hojo's plan(whose whole deal was that he had an inferiority complex regarding his predecessor and sephirophs creator) was that he treated Aeris and RED like endangered specimens/animals. RED was supposedly the last of his kind and so was Aeries. So he brought them into an enclosure in order to ehmmm… procreate... ?? Don't ask me how that was supposed to work. Its plausible there were others of his kind somewhere.
The game is like 22 years old. That's before the internet, tolerance, gay rights, outrage culture and a whole other bunch of cultural changes that have happened. Quite frankly a lot of old content is a bit cringy by todays society standards. I mean wall market 'busy bees' and Dons place... how could they put that in a modern game.?
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Its plausible there were others of his kind somewhere.