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 Xenomancers wrote:
Lady Thor hummm...Perhaps they should use a body builder type instead of one that is 105 lbs of pure bone. That would probably hurt viewership though because tiny girls are prettier. In the end it's all about the money isn't it.

A. She was already cast as Foster.
B. It's magic and muscles are meaningless. Loki is orders of magnitude stronger than Cap... Danvers is on a different scale again...

I am very excited for more Thor- but especially for the implication here. Lady Thor is only the most famous other hammer wielder. I think this is just an elaborate setup for the first animated MCU movie, Thor 5-

Throg, Frog of Thunder!

If this is going to be a multiverse spanning thing, maybe they can work in my favorite Thor - Beta Ray Bill.

Well, we've seen him or at least one his species already immortalised by The Grandmaster in Thor Ragnarok?

I really hope that this is a sign of Marvel indulging in the more esoteric areas of their lore. I mean, Dr Strange and Ant-Man both nailed the respective visuals, and harnessed some of the potential.

Now the wider audience is accepting of Magic and the Quantam Realm? Who knows how far they could successfully take things?

OK, can one of you Thor guys check my work before I started reading the Jane Foster Thor comics backstory? The chronology is a... little confusing.

Thor - God of Thunder 1-24 (2012-2014)
Thor - Vol 4 1-8 (2014-2015)
Secret Wars (2015-2016)
Thors (2016)
The Mighty Thor Vol 3 (2017-2018)

Does that seem right? Anything important I'm missing? I don't want to dig too deep into tangentially related Secret Wars or Original Sin stuff if that is avoidable; want to avoid rabbit holes.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I'm way more interested in the What If... announcement then Jane Foster Thor, because I haven't read any of the Jane Foster Thor comics yet. I guess I have like two years though. I've heard they're pretty good.

really surprised to see Natalie Portman come back though. I was sure she was gone for good.

I am all in on this idea of Lady Thor. I think it could be a pretty fantastic movie given the people involved. My only hang up is.... where has her character been this whole time? When did we even last see her? It should be like, a decade at least in the movie timeline?

Edit: Does this also mean Kat Dennings is coming back?

How is she going to play Thor? She weighs about 20 pounds - like anorexic thin. I was surprised she could even lift the fake hammer.

 Ouze wrote:
OK, can one of you Thor guys check my work before I started reading the Jane Foster Thor comics backstory? The chronology is a... little confusing.

Thor - God of Thunder 1-24 (2012-2014)
Thor - Vol 4 1-8 (2014-2015)
Secret Wars (2015-2016)
Thors (2016)
The Mighty Thor Vol 3 (2017-2018)

Does that seem right? Anything important I'm missing? I don't want to dig too deep into tangentially related Secret Wars or Original Sin stuff if that is avoidable; want to avoid rabbit holes.

The new War of the Realms has a bit of Foster Thor.

Basically, if there's Jason Aarons involved you're on the right track.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I'm way more interested in the What If... announcement then Jane Foster Thor, because I haven't read any of the Jane Foster Thor comics yet. I guess I have like two years though. I've heard they're pretty good.

really surprised to see Natalie Portman come back though. I was sure she was gone for good.

I am all in on this idea of Lady Thor. I think it could be a pretty fantastic movie given the people involved. My only hang up is.... where has her character been this whole time? When did we even last see her? It should be like, a decade at least in the movie timeline?

Edit: Does this also mean Kat Dennings is coming back?

How is she going to play Thor? She weighs about 20 pounds - like anorexic thin. I was surprised she could even lift the fake hammer.

How does Tom Hiddleston play a guy that can no sell Captain America and shrug off experimental SHIELD weapons?

We live in a world where Keanu Reeves and Jim from (the bad version of) The Office are credible action heroes and where grown-ass adults pay good money to watch movies about magical fantasy beings, but for sure Portman's appearance being subjectively waify is what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Everything else is hyper-realistic, as fans of comic books have always demanded.

in a Universe of Magic Hammers and talking ducks and rodents moaning wee Nats isn't physically 'right' seems to scream 'the wrong kind of fun'

plus not having read the books but isn't the gist that Jane and the Thorette are separate incarnations so we could be looking at a CGI / mo-cap ala Banner Hulk

It's almost like people who can genuinely ACT are able to make all kinds of things believable.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
in a Universe of Magic Hammers and talking ducks and rodents moaning wee Nats isn't physically 'right' seems to scream 'the wrong kind of fun'

plus not having read the books but isn't the gist that Jane and the Thorette are separate incarnations so we could be looking at a CGI / mo-cap ala Banner Hulk

The reasoning for them being separate is because of something going on in the background:

 gorgon wrote:
It's almost like people who can genuinely ACT are able to make all kinds of things believable.

True.

Not relevant to Portman, but true.

 Frazzled wrote:


How is she going to play Thor? She weighs about 20 pounds - like anorexic thin. I was surprised she could even lift the fake hammer.

She'll probably go through a fitness program to build muscle and fill-out a bit. Its worth mentioning that Chris himself looked more like Tom Daily before he trained for the role of Thor.

Then again, Chris was much younger when he put on muscle and Nat would be doing it later in life, which is more challenging. But considering her resume, she seems a disciplined woman - and will no doubt be fully committed to that goal. Assuming she is to shoot in the second half of next year...she won't look like Meg Gallagher or Ronda Rousey but she can achieve the build of Daisy Ridley or Alicia Vikander.

 Excommunicatus wrote:
We live in a world where Keanu Reeves and Jim from (the bad version of) The Office are credible action heroes and where grown-ass adults pay good money to watch movies about magical fantasy beings, but for sure Portman's appearance being subjectively waify is what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Everything else is hyper-realistic, as fans of comic books have always demanded.

Not her appearance. How can she physically manage the role?

i think she's a great actress (perfect in Black Swan), I am just concerned how she is going to physically handle the requirements of that role. I (or my wife I should note more clearly who has more experience in this) don't think she's healthy. She gives off all the signs of an eating disorder.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Excommunicatus wrote:
We live in a world where Keanu Reeves and Jim from (the bad version of) The Office are credible action heroes and where grown-ass adults pay good money to watch movies about magical fantasy beings, but for sure Portman's appearance being subjectively waify is what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Everything else is hyper-realistic, as fans of comic books have always demanded.

Not her appearance. How can she physically manage the role?

i think she's a great actress (perfect in Black Swan), I am just concerned how she is going to physically handle the requirements of that role. I (or my wife I should note more clearly who has more experience in this) don't think she's healthy. She gives off all the signs of an eating disorder.

Do you think it'll be significantly more physically demanding than Black Swan? She did most of her own dancing (though exactly how much of the complex stuff she did is disputed, she certainly did a lot) and ballet is hard.

If you do, why?

It's not as if she can't hit the gym and tone/bulk up.

I mean, look at The Machinist and Batman Begins. One made after the other, and those are two very different Christian Bales.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Excommunicatus wrote:
We live in a world where Keanu Reeves and Jim from (the bad version of) The Office are credible action heroes and where grown-ass adults pay good money to watch movies about magical fantasy beings, but for sure Portman's appearance being subjectively waify is what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Everything else is hyper-realistic, as fans of comic books have always demanded.

Not her appearance. How can she physically manage the role?

i think she's a great actress (perfect in Black Swan), I am just concerned how she is going to physically handle the requirements of that role. I (or my wife I should note more clearly who has more experience in this) don't think she's healthy. She gives off all the signs of an eating disorder.

Not her appearance, but here's a load of subjective BS about her appearance.

Did you know Christopher Reeves can't really fly? *gasp*

If they go the angle of Jane Foster with Cancer turned into Lady Thor, why does her petite frame make her unsuited for the role? I'm confused because that sounds exactly how she should look.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It's not as if she can't hit the gym and tone/bulk up.

I mean, look at The Machinist and Batman Begins. One made after the other, and those are two very different Christian Bales.

An eating disorder is not about "going to the gym and bulking up."

She's much worse after BS. I am not sure she could handle that role now.


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 Excommunicatus wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Excommunicatus wrote:
We live in a world where Keanu Reeves and Jim from (the bad version of) The Office are credible action heroes and where grown-ass adults pay good money to watch movies about magical fantasy beings, but for sure Portman's appearance being subjectively waify is what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Everything else is hyper-realistic, as fans of comic books have always demanded.

Not her appearance. How can she physically manage the role?

i think she's a great actress (perfect in Black Swan), I am just concerned how she is going to physically handle the requirements of that role. I (or my wife I should note more clearly who has more experience in this) don't think she's healthy. She gives off all the signs of an eating disorder.

Not her appearance, but here's a load of subjective BS about her appearance.

Did you know Christopher Reeves can't really fly? *gasp*

Not appearance, health. Is English your second language?

You know absolutely nothing about her health and are using your subjective (and almost certainly ignorant) views about her appearance to leap, two-footed, to a conclusion that she is unhealthy.

Away and gak.

This thread is pretty much the epitome of the Dead Dove meme...

Doesn't anyone ever get tired of the constant barrage of all these superheros? 9/10ths of these films were bad, really, really bad. Cringy even.

I thought this would have died out by now.

Oh well, the genocide of science fiction will continue I guess...


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 Galef wrote:
If they go the angle of Jane Foster with Cancer turned into Lady Thor, why does her petite frame make her unsuited for the role? I'm confused because that sounds exactly how she should look.

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My friend just told me about this story this morning. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

I have Cancer! Give me Chemo!
Okay, It's helping.

Now I'm Thor, the Chemo is nullified.
And so is the Cancer!

Nope. Cancer stays.


It sounds abysmal. Is this what Comic fans consider as good?

 Excommunicatus wrote:
You know absolutely nothing about her health and are using your subjective (and almost certainly ignorant) views about her appearance to leap, two-footed, to a conclusion that she is unhealthy.

Away and gak.

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 Togusa wrote:
Doesn't anyone ever get tired of the constant barrage of all these superheros? 9/10ths of these films were bad, really, really bad. Cringy even.

Yes indeed. I've paid to see Venom and Deadpools. Nothing else in several years.

 Togusa wrote:
Doesn't anyone ever get tired of the constant barrage of all these superheros? 9/10ths of these films were bad, really, really bad. Cringy even.

I thought this would have died out by now.

Oh well, the genocide of science fiction will continue I guess...


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 Galef wrote:
If they go the angle of Jane Foster with Cancer turned into Lady Thor, why does her petite frame make her unsuited for the role? I'm confused because that sounds exactly how she should look.

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My friend just told me about this story this morning. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

I have Cancer! Give me Chemo!
Okay, It's helping.

Now I'm Thor, the Chemo is nullified.
And so is the Cancer!

Nope. Cancer stays.


It sounds abysmal. Is this what Comic fans consider as good?

Chemo is an unnatural, external poison in her body. Cancer is her body unwittingly destroying itself.

Personal experience made the series too hard for me to get through, but its definitely not poorly written.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I'm way more interested in the What If... announcement then Jane Foster Thor, because I haven't read any of the Jane Foster Thor comics yet. I guess I have like two years though. I've heard they're pretty good.

really surprised to see Natalie Portman come back though. I was sure she was gone for good.

I am all in on this idea of Lady Thor. I think it could be a pretty fantastic movie given the people involved. My only hang up is.... where has her character been this whole time? When did we even last see her? It should be like, a decade at least in the movie timeline?

Edit: Does this also mean Kat Dennings is coming back?

How is she going to play Thor? She weighs about 20 pounds - like anorexic thin. I was surprised she could even lift the fake hammer.

It's okay, she playing a god. It would have been fine if they cast a thin unbuff guy to play thor too. It's not immersion breaking at all. By this logic Michael Cera would have made a great Thor. Hollywood apologist are so dishonest.

Dont get me wrong I love Portman. Shes one the best actress in hollywood IMO. Shes just not the right choice for this roll. Only Keira Knightley would have been a worse choice.

 Frazzled wrote:

That's not even the right scene.

Eight year-olds, dude.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Doesn't anyone ever get tired of the constant barrage of all these superheros? 9/10ths of these films were bad, really, really bad. Cringy even.

I thought this would have died out by now.

Oh well, the genocide of science fiction will continue I guess...


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 Galef wrote:
If they go the angle of Jane Foster with Cancer turned into Lady Thor, why does her petite frame make her unsuited for the role? I'm confused because that sounds exactly how she should look.

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My friend just told me about this story this morning. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

I have Cancer! Give me Chemo!
Okay, It's helping.

Now I'm Thor, the Chemo is nullified.
And so is the Cancer!

Nope. Cancer stays.


It sounds abysmal. Is this what Comic fans consider as good?

Chemo is an unnatural, external poison in her body. Cancer is her body unwittingly destroying itself.

Personal experience made the series too hard for me to get through, but its definitely not poorly written.

You're telling me the Asgardians can't cure cancer?

If the answer is yes, that's absurd and bad writing.

Sure, why not? Jane Foster in the comics was Thor for a bit.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I'm way more interested in the What If... announcement then Jane Foster Thor, because I haven't read any of the Jane Foster Thor comics yet. I guess I have like two years though. I've heard they're pretty good.

really surprised to see Natalie Portman come back though. I was sure she was gone for good.

I am all in on this idea of Lady Thor. I think it could be a pretty fantastic movie given the people involved. My only hang up is.... where has her character been this whole time? When did we even last see her? It should be like, a decade at least in the movie timeline?

Edit: Does this also mean Kat Dennings is coming back?

How is she going to play Thor? She weighs about 20 pounds - like anorexic thin. I was surprised she could even lift the fake hammer.

Probably the same way Hemsworth can lift weapons made out of magical alien metal.

Say it with me now, mmmaaaaaaggggiiiicccc

 Togusa wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Doesn't anyone ever get tired of the constant barrage of all these superheros? 9/10ths of these films were bad, really, really bad. Cringy even.

I thought this would have died out by now.

Oh well, the genocide of science fiction will continue I guess...


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 Galef wrote:
If they go the angle of Jane Foster with Cancer turned into Lady Thor, why does her petite frame make her unsuited for the role? I'm confused because that sounds exactly how she should look.

-

My friend just told me about this story this morning. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

I have Cancer! Give me Chemo!
Okay, It's helping.

Now I'm Thor, the Chemo is nullified.
And so is the Cancer!

Nope. Cancer stays.


It sounds abysmal. Is this what Comic fans consider as good?

Chemo is an unnatural, external poison in her body. Cancer is her body unwittingly destroying itself.

Personal experience made the series too hard for me to get through, but its definitely not poorly written.

You're telling me the Asgardians can't cure cancer?

If the answer is yes, that's absurd and bad writing.

I also like to reduce complex stories down to incorrect characterizations. Watch:

Imagine, posting on a Warhammer 40k forum and complaining about bad stories. As if superhumans in power armor would have any issue fighting space bugs. Lol Something something writing is bad