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BrianDavion wrote:
except CA is optional, because using points is optional you might vastly prefer points (I do too) but we need to reckongize that, strictly speaking, they're optional and one can always choose to use PL instead

PL are "optional" too.

 liquidjoshi wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:


And for a nice exemple, GW stated that codex 2.0 is not necessary for csm.

A "codex 2.0" should be unacceptable for any faction within the same edition. It is utter insanity to think that such a measure should be necessary in an even halfway competently made game. FAQs aren't perfect, but this is something else. I can't think of any other game or company that would try something like that, with the exception of edition changes.

It's trash, is what I'm saying.

If they fixed the mistakes from the previous book then I would be arguing against this, saying that they evolved with the edition.

But they didn't.

NL and others aside from AL are still trash.

Most of the stuff didn't really change. Just charging the same price for a few 'updated' stat lines.

But hey Red Corsairs got some love right?

Oh yeah.. different book.


More to the topic of the thread I wouldn't say all those documents are needed. They are needed competitively in which case this is a case of concern as it makes it harder to keep track of everything so you don't get cheated, but if it's just a casual game around friends then you don't need to worry so much.

There may be 102 documents but realistically how many do you NEED to play a game?

The last game I played the documents I personally used were
Codex: Death Guard

My opponent used
Codex: Astra Militarum
The White Dwarf issue with Assassin rules

We also shared Chapter Approved 2018 and Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook.

I guess you could count a bunch of FAQs as well but neither of us had them on hand or needed to reference them.

So excluding the FAQs we used a grand total of 5 documents. To run my Chaos Space Marine army in 7th I needed more than that, so I'm not fussed by what's needed to play these days.

That's curious since I need precisely one document to play my armies.

Other than soap boxing I don't see the point of this thread. Furthermore there are not 102 documents needed or required to play 40k, there are 102 documents to get all of the rules released for 40k, these are very different things.