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Gathering the Informations.

They've specifically called Vanguard Marines(Infiltrators, Incursors, Eliminators, and Suppressors) out as not being called up for Deathwatch.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
They've specifically called Vanguard Marines(Infiltrators, Incursors, Eliminators, and Suppressors) out as not being called up for Deathwatch.


where's it said that? also all primaris can serve as vanguard marines so... that doesn't make much sense

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Gathering the Informations.

BrianDavion wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
They've specifically called Vanguard Marines(Infiltrators, Incursors, Eliminators, and Suppressors) out as not being called up for Deathwatch.


where's it said that? also all primaris can serve as vanguard marines so... that doesn't make much sense

Community FB was reposting it back when they first dropped as part of Shadowspear.

Additionally, there's an important distinction to be made by 'Vanguard Marines'(of which the 10th Company is a standing force of 100) and Marines just throwing the gear on in the other Companies.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
...it can be good or bad depending on your individual needs. it's... differant. Truthfully I kinda like it, (I've been advising people to just buy the ETB primaris Marines and then use 3 of the primaris in the box as a starting place for Primaris Leuitenants for that reason) but if you JUST need a HQ, or want a HQ that really stands out and pops.. yeah it could be annoying


Cloak pauldrons out of the basic Guard kit help for making your HQs stand out. As to when you want to buy just the HQ model yes, but while you usually want Space Marines in five-model or ten-model squads (so taking one out to make a character makes for four redundant/surplus minis) Custodes come in five-model boxes and have minimum squad sizes of three, which makes it much easier to have just the one surplus model.

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 AnomanderRake wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
...it can be good or bad depending on your individual needs. it's... differant. Truthfully I kinda like it, (I've been advising people to just buy the ETB primaris Marines and then use 3 of the primaris in the box as a starting place for Primaris Leuitenants for that reason) but if you JUST need a HQ, or want a HQ that really stands out and pops.. yeah it could be annoying


Cloak pauldrons out of the basic Guard kit help for making your HQs stand out. As to when you want to buy just the HQ model yes, but while you usually want Space Marines in five-model or ten-model squads (so taking one out to make a character makes for four redundant/surplus minis) Custodes come in five-model boxes and have minimum squad sizes of three, which makes it much easier to have just the one surplus model.


as I said in the case with marines I noted, you make some HQs out of an intercessor box and then use the ETB box to plug the gaps. the end result is getting 2 HQs and a ten man intercessor squad for 75 bucks which is cheaper then 2 generic Leuitenants if you buy em seperatly. although if you wanna give em a power sword you DO need a bits box

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 Kanluwen wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
They've specifically called Vanguard Marines(Infiltrators, Incursors, Eliminators, and Suppressors) out as not being called up for Deathwatch.


where's it said that? also all primaris can serve as vanguard marines so... that doesn't make much sense

Community FB was reposting it back when they first dropped as part of Shadowspear.

Additionally, there's an important distinction to be made by 'Vanguard Marines'(of which the 10th Company is a standing force of 100) and Marines just throwing the gear on in the other Companies.


Community FB pages say a lot of things and GW is well documented on theirs as directly contradicting themselves with things on the WHC page for example.


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Well they did it, they made another donald trump miniature.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
Well they did it, they made another donald trump miniature.

What was the first?

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BrianDavion wrote:


Codex Space Marines released in augest, so that was 3-4 months ago. so no no it hasn't been 7 months. unless you;re refering to the original shadowspear release.


Shadowspear was in March genius. In that time, Deathwatch have gone backwards.

BrianDavion wrote:

As I said give it some time, we know death watch are getting something for PA. I'd be willing to bet that what death watch will get is a "Umbra Kill team" that is based arouind phobos armor.

just a hunch but... *shrugs*


DW players have given it time. In that intervening period, the army has been repeatedly screwed over. FanDex all you please, it isnt changing anything.

BrianDavion wrote:

Phobos units for death watch have a few design challanges that the other Marine armies don't have.
1: special issue ammo - how does it interact with things like the bolt sniper rifle, the marksman and occultus bolt carbines
2: Kill team squads. - what sets DW apart, other then it's specialist ammo, is DW having kill teams made up of various unit types each giving buffs to the squad etc.

these two things means GW needs to devise some new rules, think about interactions with other ones and do some play testing, big differance from say.. blood angels where you can just drop a squad of eliminators in and it performs more or less the same as it would in any other marine 'dex


That doesnt take a year to do. And saying "hey you might get nice rules down the road, enjoy being fundamentally inferior in the meanwhile" is a patently insulting attitude to take.
   
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on the forum. Obviously

the_scotsman wrote:
Well they did it, they made another donald trump miniature.


Nah, if it were Donald Trump it would an Imperial Fist.

"I will build a fortification...a big, beautiful fortification"

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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Well they did it, they made another donald trump miniature.


Nah, if it were Donald Trump it would an Imperial Fist.

"I will build a fortification...a big, beautiful fortification"


The meme is god emperor trump, but it should have been "Donald Dorn"

can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. 
   
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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Well they did it, they made another donald trump miniature.


Nah, if it were Donald Trump it would an Imperial Fist.

"I will build a fortification...a big, beautiful fortification"


"AND MAKE CHAOS PAY FOR IT!"

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