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On the 26th of December, a new threat to the Imperium will raise its head. Let’s check out this Orkoid menace.
You won’t have to wait long to get that sweet hit of nostalgia. Gorzag Gitstompa and Nikkit will be available first in Warhammer stores from the 26th of December until the 3rd of January. They will then be available on the Games Workshop webstore from a later date to allow as many people to add them to their collections as possible. Make sure you save up your Christmas teef so that you can get your hands on these incredible models.

This was indeed a Gorkamorka nob. I should know, I bought it at the time.

I still have it.

Gorkamorka was midway popular. People liked the orks, but after you drive around the table a couple of times, the game stalled out.

I did play in a Necromunda line, such as tunnel fights, and some one off fort fights, but after your gang rises to the top, you are in a holding pattern. Ork tabletop pretty much goes in one direction. Maybe two- Shoot them in the face, or hit them with an axe.

If you will recall, The game came out, didn't have a lot of support, and followed the OG Specialist Games line.
1 main box, 1 supplement, a batch of blisters, with white dwarf and thier specialist magazine articles...

I still pull them out on and off again, but in the evolution of the figures, I am very happy on how the new figures and models panned out, and can easily see a remake without much other then a couple of supplement books, or White Dwarf articles...

Hell if you really need someone to write them, give me a call.

This new figure looks pretty good, but he really doesn't look like he's worth the price.

Yes sir, I like it! Need need to pick up Jakob Bugmanson though.

GW just released a video of him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJjLTTLdpco

 Grot 6 wrote:


This new figure looks pretty good, but he really doesn't look like he's worth the price.

It's a strict downgrade imo. Actually no, it will be nicer to work with, so it has that going for it, and I suppose it's scaled inline with modern minis, so it's better in a few ways. Aesthetically though I think it's overall worse.

/Edit - Pic for reference (1998 Games day Nob)

So if he's the miniature released at the end of this year/start of next, does that mean there's no Grombrindal miniature coming? I thought they were something they did every year now?

So, now that we have had a mono-pose prototype of how a re-done ork range would look like, can people stop crying for re-doing perfectly fine plastic kits?

That model doesn't trigger any nostalgia for me, and that's just too much money for a nob with slugga and choppa and an alternative ammo runt.
It's still a nice model, the style is similar to the crew of the squig buggy.

I got excited, when I saw the blister. But the original sculpt is waaaay better. I’d rather hunt it down, than buy this one tbh. The face of the new ork is the worst offender.
It’s proportions are off. And the muscles are just... catachan kit -like. The mini overall seems to have less details as well.

A side by side of the two could be a decent case study on why, even after 20 years of development, plastic still isn't as good as resin / metal in many regards (discounting the weird proportions, which aren't the result of material limitations).

I agree with those saying the previous miniature was better. Something about the new version makes it seem more lifeless and bland, like it feels less energetic and emotive but rather he's just casual about it. There's something about it that just feels...boring?

The problem with 40k new ork face (not only the face but mainly) is real indeed, i dont understand why the cannot find a good recipe, its like they try new sculpt or solution everytime. Would be enough, imho, to just follow the aos ones whom prototype has been done by Brian Nelson with his ironjawz megaboss that is awesome. Even the bloodbowl ones, both team, are much better than the last years 40ork for me.

This new ork is better though, but i bet that even this one will remain just a try and new ork that will be released will change again lol.

ps: the original sculpt of brian nelson's gorkamorka ork nobs are waaaaaaaaay better, unrivaled. But this doesn't mean they can't do (much) better with new orks: i agree with mentlegen, they just feels boring, bland.

JWBS wrote:
A side by side of the two could be a decent case study on why, even after 20 years of development, plastic still isn't as good as resin / metal in many regards (discounting the weird proportions, which aren't the result of material limitations).

I’d point the finger at computer sculpting. Some companies manage to use it well (Wyrd, Moonstone, even GW at times, like with GeneCult and AdMech), but other times.. well we get this reimagining of a classic ork, Fyreslayere - awfully sculpted musculature and faces.
Another good example is a Mek with Shokk Attack Gun. The plastic version is hideous in comparison to the previous one.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

JWBS wrote:
A side by side of the two could be a decent case study on why, even after 20 years of development, plastic still isn't as good as resin / metal in many regards (discounting the weird proportions, which aren't the result of material limitations).

I’d point the finger at computer sculpting. Some companies manage to use it well (Wyrd, Moonstone, even GW at times, like with GeneCult and AdMech), but other times.. well we get this reimagining of a classic ork, Fyreslayere - awfully sculpted musculature and faces.
Another good example is a Mek with Shokk Attack Gun. The plastic version is hideous in comparison to the previous one.

For me the computer sculpting isnt the real problem; we have seen amazing and terrific models lately, i just think about new giants or the gloomspite range and trolls especially! 3/4 of bloodbowl teams or wacry warbands are incredible! If the sculpture is done by a real and pro artist computer or handmade the result is the same. The problem is when the sculpts are done by less talented people or just "simple technician", dont know if you get me . Im sorry to say that but the difference between some recent sculpts in the games workshop range are ridiculous.

New Orks, like Ironjawz, just have much more fantasy-normal orc faces. With better proportions. And it makes theem more boring. Or more cool, it depends in what are your tastes. Its a very different style to the extremely comical and exagerated ork and greenskins heads of old.

Just compare the old with the new head. The old one with the hat covering his eyes like some cartoon and a mouth thats extremely big espcially in relation with the rest of the parts of the head.

The old one looks like a dead crackhead while compared to the new one, to me at least.

 Theophony wrote:
It would also keep the copyright locked up.

Given that it lasts what, 75 years after the death of the creators or thereabouts is that really a concern?

Morghot wrote:

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

JWBS wrote:
A side by side of the two could be a decent case study on why, even after 20 years of development, plastic still isn't as good as resin / metal in many regards (discounting the weird proportions, which aren't the result of material limitations).

I’d point the finger at computer sculpting. Some companies manage to use it well (Wyrd, Moonstone, even GW at times, like with GeneCult and AdMech), but other times.. well we get this reimagining of a classic ork, Fyreslayere - awfully sculpted musculature and faces.
Another good example is a Mek with Shokk Attack Gun. The plastic version is hideous in comparison to the previous one.

For me the computer sculpting isnt the real problem; we have seen amazing and terrific models lately, i just think about new giants or the gloomspite range and trolls especially! 3/4 of bloodbowl teams or wacry warbands are incredible! If the sculpture is done by a real and pro artist computer or handmade the result is the same. The problem is when the sculpts are done by less talented people or just "simple technician", dont know if you get me . Im sorry to say that but the difference between some recent sculpts in the games workshop range are ridiculous.

I wonder how much is the sculpting and how much is the painting.

It seems the painter has created hard edges and hard crevices where they don't really exist on the model. The belly is an example, a hard crevice has been painted down the middle but looking at it closely, the underlying detail of the model does not seem to have that hard crevices.

Some of the close ups of the arms look similar, where it seems much more definition has been painted into them than exists on the sculpt, which makes it look weird.

Well, after seeing the old model here I have to say I like the new one better, especially the head. Just looks meaner instead of comic-like.
That being said if the old one showed up on ebay for a reasonable price I'd probably get that one, too.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Well, after seeing the old model here I have to say I like the new one better, especially the head. Just looks meaner instead of comic-like.
That being said if the old one showed up on ebay for a reasonable price I'd probably get that one, too.

The old one in the picture was slightly converted though, those horns were not part of the original model. 100% sure the plastic one would be cheaper than the classic nob, so far it has always been quite expensive on ebay, like 30-50 euro for that model.

Overall I prefer the old nob, but not by a large margin. This one is a good looking model, surprisingly good considering latest GW releases.

Good lord, I remember picking that up at GamesDay... 97 or 98, I think? Used to *really* like Gorkamorka - with a bit of reworking and adjusting the N20 rulesets to focus more on melee and speed (hells, even as a testbed for the ineviable Outlands expansion or a combination of Necro and Speed Freakz), that could make for a really fun game. Will definietely have to pick one up as a piece of nostalgia!

 Flamekebab wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It would also keep the copyright locked up.

Given that it lasts what, 75 years after the death of the creators or thereabouts is that really a concern?

I believe it's 25, hence the whole issue with Warhammer Quest getting grabbed by that Spanish game site. Printed books is another matter.

I'm happy for any new Ork models that come out.

Even if the old model was a slightly better sculpt, I'll still grab this new one. Folks buying new ork models in droves should, in theory, let GW know that there's still a lot of interest in orks as a faction.

Gotta say I prefer th old one. I generally prefer the newer, more realistic serious sculpts, but I prefer my orks cartoonish and hilariously out of proportion.

I really like it, happy to pick up one and either convert him into a warboss or just use him as a normal nob.

Will pick him up to my collection of one offs..

 Theophony wrote:

 Flamekebab wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
It would also keep the copyright locked up.

Given that it lasts what, 75 years after the death of the creators or thereabouts is that really a concern?

I believe it's 25, hence the whole issue with Warhammer Quest getting grabbed by that Spanish game site. Printed books is another matter.

It's 70. GW as a company isn't old enough to have had anything it's ever produced genuinely fall out of copyright.

Quest (I thought it was HeroQuest, not Warhammer Quest) was a trademark issue, not copyright. Trademarks only last ten years (generally, that's a huge oversimplification) without active renewal.