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Mutilatin' Mad Dok





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Awesome Greenstuff work Geifer

Gave myself a build deadline to make sure I could get it painted intime, heres what I managed. Just spraying it now, left some bits of so its easier to paint, it sitting on magnets so it rotates and the shells can be loaded in via a movable hatch (hopefully)


   
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 Midget Gems wrote:
Gave myself a build deadline to make sure I could get it painted intime, heres what I managed. Just spraying it now, left some bits of so its easier to paint, it sitting on magnets so it rotates and the shells can be loaded in via a movable hatch (hopefully)

Oh my Gork, that is insane


 
   
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Renegade Kan Killin Orks






Northern Ireland

Super cool MG. That’s for sure the gun Crocodile Dundee pulled out when he famously quoted our theme this month.

   
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Okay, I'm looking for some help, guys. I'm deep into painting my wraithlord, but I'm having a crisis of confidence about my chosen paint scheme. The idea is to mix the schemes for a classic fire dragon and the scheme I made for my Arach-Qin guardian way back in the objective secured contest (pics of both below), so the paint scheme would be red-yellow-black, but what I've come up with doesn't seem to be working so far. Can anyone give me some feedback or advice on my colour choices? The red is all highlighted and shaded, but the black isn't (and the black will probably be lightened to a v.dark blue/grey to match the guardian), but it doesn't feel like there's enough of the Arach-Qin scheme in there and I'm not sure the black flame motifs are doing enough. So... help?

Or just tell me I'm being stupid and it looks okay?
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 Midget Gems wrote:
Awesome Greenstuff work Geifer


Thank you.

 CancelledApocalypse wrote:
Okay, I'm looking for some help, guys. I'm deep into painting my wraithlord, but I'm having a crisis of confidence about my chosen paint scheme. The idea is to mix the schemes for a classic fire dragon and the scheme I made for my Arach-Qin guardian way back in the objective secured contest (pics of both below), so the paint scheme would be red-yellow-black, but what I've come up with doesn't seem to be working so far. Can anyone give me some feedback or advice on my colour choices? The red is all highlighted and shaded, but the black isn't (and the black will probably be lightened to a v.dark blue/grey to match the guardian), but it doesn't feel like there's enough of the Arach-Qin scheme in there and I'm not sure the black flame motifs are doing enough. So... help?

Or just tell me I'm being stupid and it looks okay?


I think you're looking at two issues here. The first one is that you inverted the colors from the Guardian and now have majority red with some black parts. They're the same colors but used in different places and at a different ratio, so the connection to the Guardian isn't very strong. At the same time I think you haven't committed to any one color the same way you did on the Guardian, keeping the ratio of red and black too close to 50:50, and threw on a large, yellow area for good measure to further dilute the scheme. I like the combination of red, yellow and black and use it a lot, and in my experience you have to settle on a strong primary color with the others just providing spots of interest to make the whole look good. If you want the Wraithlord to tie in with the color scheme on the Guardian, I think you need more black on it and can't leave it so peripheral. The black needs to appear more central to and on the model.

The second issue I see is the head. The yellow doesn't tie in with anything you have on the Guardian while taking up a large area. At the same time you have no black on it, which goes both against the general color scheme of the Guardian and and the particular look of the red face framed by the black helmet. I think you have been too conservative with the red flames and should extend them upwards to about the halfway point on the curve from where they end now to where the head levels out. Increase the height on the sides to just above the vents to go with that.

The other thing I'd suggest is a black frame. I don't know how you feel about blending, but the red flames could do with a transition from pure black at the bottom to pure red at the top, with maybe two thirds of the height of the current red flames given over to that transition. I would further give the black more presence by extending it down to the neck, shoulders and top plate of the chest as well to account for my first point and put a larger black area in a more prominent spot and relegate red back to supplementary color. Not sure about the back or if you want any kind of transition on the torso as i can't really see those areas in the pictures. I'm not sure overdoing the flame motif by adding red ones that reach into black areas is going to help.

Just my take, but I hope it's of some help to you.

Edit: I notice you went with a brighter red than on the Guardian. Perhaps it's worth considering darkening some recessed red areas to a similarly dark red, perhaps?

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Thanks @Geifer, lots of good points there. I'm actually going to paint the fire dragon symbol on the centre of the faceplate in black (like the fire dragon model below), that's why the red flames don't come up higher, but I'm very willing to try blending the flames into black towards the bottom. Or I could even paint more black flames within the red flames? I'll probably see what it looks like with the symbol first, of course.

Yeah, I totally agree with the not enough black point, looks like I'm going to have to cover up a lot of work to rebalance it. There will be yellow flames along the forward black barrel section of the gun, so hopefully that will help balance that colour out somewhat. I've also thought about adding some of the long Wraithlord tassels and painting them up blue, like the guardian has. Or would that just confuse things even more?

If I were to extend the black on the standing leg up to the kneecap, then paint the upper torso body panels and second shoulder pad black, do you think that would be enough? Or should I paint up the forearms/arms with the black, too?
   
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 CancelledApocalypse wrote:
Okay, I'm looking for some help, guys. I'm deep into painting my wraithlord, but I'm having a crisis of confidence about my chosen paint scheme. The idea is to mix the schemes for a classic fire dragon and the scheme I made for my Arach-Qin guardian way back in the objective secured contest (pics of both below), so the paint scheme would be red-yellow-black, but what I've come up with doesn't seem to be working so far. Can anyone give me some feedback or advice on my colour choices? The red is all highlighted and shaded, but the black isn't (and the black will probably be lightened to a v.dark blue/grey to match the guardian), but it doesn't feel like there's enough of the Arach-Qin scheme in there and I'm not sure the black flame motifs are doing enough. So... help?

Or just tell me I'm being stupid and it looks okay?


You have two totally different colour schemes here. The guardian is black with red details and then light blue for an accent colour. The construct is red with black in equal measure and yellow details.. The blue worked with the black while the red works with the yellow so you need to lean into one or the other. The later paint job also lacks part definition. You need to define smooth surfaces like this by their colour placement. The gun needs to be painted different to the body at least. Think of it like space marine colour schemes and how they contrast.

My first thought was to paint the limbs black and leave the torso red and the head yellow. You get the fire dragon core while the majority of your model is black fitting the guardian. That style lets you adopt other head colours for say banshee constructs because red and black pair well with bone and you have most aspects covered in your 4 colours there. Black as your primary with red secondary and unit details being paired with either works across the whole faction.
   
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Hi Flinty, here are a couple of pics of the Dauntless WIP

Spoiler:


And primed:

Spoiler:


That was done late August and painted up end of August/ early September, does that let me qualify?

EDIT - images spoiler'd as they are BIG

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Yo7 wrote:
 CancelledApocalypse wrote:
Okay, I'm looking for some help, guys. I'm deep into painting my wraithlord, but I'm having a crisis of confidence about my chosen paint scheme. The idea is to mix the schemes for a classic fire dragon and the scheme I made for my Arach-Qin guardian way back in the objective secured contest (pics of both below), so the paint scheme would be red-yellow-black, but what I've come up with doesn't seem to be working so far. Can anyone give me some feedback or advice on my colour choices? The red is all highlighted and shaded, but the black isn't (and the black will probably be lightened to a v.dark blue/grey to match the guardian), but it doesn't feel like there's enough of the Arach-Qin scheme in there and I'm not sure the black flame motifs are doing enough. So... help?

Or just tell me I'm being stupid and it looks okay?


You have two totally different colour schemes here. The guardian is black with red details and then light blue for an accent colour. The construct is red with black in equal measure and yellow details.. The blue worked with the black while the red works with the yellow so you need to lean into one or the other. The later paint job also lacks part definition. You need to define smooth surfaces like this by their colour placement. The gun needs to be painted different to the body at least. Think of it like space marine colour schemes and how they contrast.

My first thought was to paint the limbs black and leave the torso red and the head yellow. You get the fire dragon core while the majority of your model is black fitting the guardian. That style lets you adopt other head colours for say banshee constructs because red and black pair well with bone and you have most aspects covered in your 4 colours there. Black as your primary with red secondary and unit details being paired with either works across the whole faction.


Yeah, agreed, although the two schemes aren't totally different, they both have red (and black) in them... though the issue obviously is with the red being the primary colour in one scheme and secondary in the other. I think I'm going to paint the symbol on the helmet, and the yellow flames on the barrel, then see how that looks before making more changes to the limbs and/or torso.

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@Paradigm & Nevelon - I hope it’s not rude of me to ask since I know you both are busy IRL, but will there be a vote soon for last month’s competition? I finally finished a mini on time and I’m dying to see it up there with all the other (better) entries.

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Sorry, vote will be coming soon, I was planning to get it done over the weekend but haven't been feeling well the last few days so wasn't able to work on compiling the entries. Feeling a little better today, so I'll make a start later.

 
   
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Mostly, on my phone.

Well, a bit sad still that it wasn't snazzy this month, so painted Heimdall and Malekith anyway. But still, I reckon Skurge is done:

Behold! My stuff!

Loved doing the display base and finding odds and ends from across the multiverse.

So we have scatter from across a whole range of games I play. I think my favourite reference might actually be the Shadows of Brimstone crate and dynamite, as that's a game of crossing time and space. The wolfskin is a wee nod to Fenris also

He had to have Des and Troy, but there's also Cable's gun, the big shoota, FW plasma pistol, a Mantic GCPS officer sidearm and a Void Viridian blaster.

And separate from the display base (but still with some stuff).

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CancelledApocalypse wrote:Okay, I'm looking for some help, guys. I'm deep into painting my wraithlord, but I'm having a crisis of confidence about my chosen paint scheme. The idea is to mix the schemes for a classic fire dragon and the scheme I made for my Arach-Qin guardian way back in the objective secured contest (pics of both below), so the paint scheme would be red-yellow-black, but what I've come up with doesn't seem to be working so far. Can anyone give me some feedback or advice on my colour choices? The red is all highlighted and shaded, but the black isn't (and the black will probably be lightened to a v.dark blue/grey to match the guardian), but it doesn't feel like there's enough of the Arach-Qin scheme in there and I'm not sure the black flame motifs are doing enough. So... help?

Or just tell me I'm being stupid and it looks okay?


I think it may be that the colours you painted each in is from a different 'season'...


inmygravenimage wrote:Well, a bit sad still that it wasn't snazzy this month, so painted Heimdall and Malekith anyway. But still, I reckon Skurge is done:

Behold! My stuff!
Spoiler:

Loved doing the display base and finding odds and ends from across the multiverse.

So we have scatter from across a whole range of games I play. I think my favourite reference might actually be the Shadows of Brimstone crate and dynamite, as that's a game of crossing time and space. The wolfskin is a wee nod to Fenris also

He had to have Des and Troy, but there's also Cable's gun, the big shoota, FW plasma pistol, a Mantic GCPS officer sidearm and a Void Viridian blaster.

And separate from the display base (but still with some stuff).

Stuff beholded, sir!

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Ouch. I wrote out a full post explaining what I had done and then reloaded the page and lost it.. bugger!

I decided to stipple to get texture on Chief. He's too big to highlight without clashing so I went for texture. Boreal green is the foundation followed by greenskin flesh then slider green from s75. The undersuit is flat black. His armour is an inaccurate infinite version but stippling goes on really light then dries 2 shades darker so he's sitting closer to Combat evolved colour wise. I'm okay with that and since I won't be washing only panel lining him he can stay where he is. I need to find a suitable way to paint the gun so it looks black but not the rubbery black of the undersuit. I will probably use streaking grime (has everyone forgot this exists?) and do some chipping once I figure out what colour to use for it before then. I don't have much pigment experience but I might pull those out too.

I noticed someone posted a bigger gun than me so I can't claim to have the biggest gun in the thread any more.. at least the dwarf of shame is staying where he is for now. I could put the gold on the visor, paint the base and call him done. I don't plan to but it's a possibility. Pending something drastic Chief shall be done by deadline!
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Midget Gems, that is a proper Orky gun! That's the kind of stuff that makes Ork armies what they should be... all the coolest stuff cobbled together.

Paradigm - get well soon!

Anyway, I've got my entry for this month finished... I was feeling like I'd done it really fast, but looking through the thread I can see I'm well behind the curve - so many finished minis posted already! Some awesome stuff in there, and the in-progress stuff is looking excellent too; shaping up to be a great month!

This is the first tank I've done in twenty years, so it was a bit of a challenge. I've done it as a Crimson Fists 4th Company tank, ready for some Ork fighting on Badlanding... just as soon as get the rest of the army finished!

One pic here, then the rest behind spoiler tags, as they're pretty big.



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cheers,
Michael

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@Paradigm - glad to hear you’re feeling a little better, I hope you’re back to 100% soon. Thanks for all you do!

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Very much in the same place as MidgetGems.
Got the basecoat on the hull and turret
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Does anyone have a confirmed source for 9.24mm tube?
i can find 9.5mm (also 3/8") but the barrel of a leman russ is this weird measurement; the only place i found bits was from a basilisk which shares barrel diameter but i can't spare it

I was told there might be pens with a similar OD but i don't want to go through WHSmiths with a vernier caliper...

Anyone out there already dealt with this problem?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..  
   
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Mostly, on my phone.

I cannot SWEAR to this but I'm 90% that board markers are the right diameter. It's what I always used to use for kitbashing.

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I beleive some of the K&S brass tube at hardware and hobby shops is about the right diameter to slot inside the bore. As I recall, this guy is one oversize over the pivot in the hull and at the fume extractor, and one undersize through the extractor and muzzle break. Not sure if that helps in the UK, admittedly...
   
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In keeping with the theme of Big Honking Guns, I painted up this Jotunn Heavy Cannon for Deadzone/Firefight:







Working on this model reminded me that I'm not really very good with vehicles/machines. The model would probably benefit from more/better weathering, but I'm kind of tired of working on it.

Now showing even more Samurai from Steel Fist Miniatures!

Painting Total as of 11/23/2022: 109 plus eleven pieces of street scenery and a wrecked carand a Big Gun and a Mech and an Eldritch Horror

Painting Total for 2021: 115 plus an iron golem and five spider nests and all the obstacles for Dreadball Xtreme and four trapdoors and a cauldron and some teleport disks and seven SF buildings and some resin barricades !






 
   
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Quick question for the group: if you look up sniper rifles in a search engine, they are pretty uniformly matte black or some other dull earth tone which makes perfect sense if you think about their usage in real life.
However, I’m painting a space ork’s belt-fed sniper rifle in an over-the-top sci-fi universe for a “that’s not a gun…” painting challenge. Would you go realistic/neutral or big shiny shoota if it were your model to paint?
(Proof pic is on page 1 if it helps)

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 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
Quick question for the group: if you look up sniper rifles in a search engine, they are pretty uniformly matte black or some other dull earth tone which makes perfect sense if you think about their usage in real life.
However, I’m painting a space ork’s belt-fed sniper rifle in an over-the-top sci-fi universe for a “that’s not a gun…” painting challenge. Would you go realistic/neutral or big shiny shoota if it were your model to paint?
(Proof pic is on page 1 if it helps)


Back when I was painting Orks. I always assumed that, no matter how flamboyant and/or gaudy their personal style, their weapons were all business. I vote to keep the guns simple.

Now showing even more Samurai from Steel Fist Miniatures!

Painting Total as of 11/23/2022: 109 plus eleven pieces of street scenery and a wrecked carand a Big Gun and a Mech and an Eldritch Horror

Painting Total for 2021: 115 plus an iron golem and five spider nests and all the obstacles for Dreadball Xtreme and four trapdoors and a cauldron and some teleport disks and seven SF buildings and some resin barricades !






 
   
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 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
Quick question for the group: if you look up sniper rifles in a search engine, they are pretty uniformly matte black or some other dull earth tone which makes perfect sense if you think about their usage in real life.
However, I’m painting a space ork’s belt-fed sniper rifle in an over-the-top sci-fi universe for a “that’s not a gun…” painting challenge. Would you go realistic/neutral or big shiny shoota if it were your model to paint?
(Proof pic is on page 1 if it helps)

Depends on the faction. Commandos would use a camo or black scheme. Speed freaks and the yellow ones I can't recall the name of would go full bling. And blue is lucky to orks and red is faster. If you want a full auto sniper painting it red speeds it up and blue makes it more accurate. There's lots of ways to justify why your ork stealth guy is dressed like a clown. Maybe he's just so damn lucky every time he has to infiltrate an imperial strong hold its dress as a clown day there and he waltzes right in.
   
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I would paint it the same way I paint all the guns in that army so the force looks coherent. This is generally black with a silver drybrush. But then, I don’t play orks.

Real sniper rifles need to be subtle. But this is not reality. These are game pieces in an over the top world. My running gag is I paint camo like Hollywood makes movies based on real events. You can tell where they are coming from, but it’s got more car chases and explosions. Because real camo is A-boring and B-works. So instead of a cool mini, you end up with an indistinguishable lump of muddy shapes and colors.

If this guy is a specialist in the unit, so his gun has different rules from his mates, you should be able to pick him out of the crowd. Do something to make him stand out.


   
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 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
Quick question for the group: if you look up sniper rifles in a search engine, they are pretty uniformly matte black or some other dull earth tone which makes perfect sense if you think about their usage in real life.
However, I’m painting a space ork’s belt-fed sniper rifle in an over-the-top sci-fi universe for a “that’s not a gun…” painting challenge. Would you go realistic/neutral or big shiny shoota if it were your model to paint?
(Proof pic is on page 1 if it helps)


Is da ork usin' da rifle proppa kunning? Or iz he sum flash git?
   
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inmygravenimage wrote:I cannot SWEAR to this but I'm 90% that board markers are the right diameter. It's what I always used to use for kitbashing.


It's looking like a vernier trip to the shops has to be done.

Vejut wrote:I beleive some of the K&S brass tube at hardware and hobby shops is about the right diameter to slot inside the bore. As I recall, this guy is one oversize over the pivot in the hull and at the fume extractor, and one undersize through the extractor and muzzle break. Not sure if that helps in the UK, admittedly...

Nice!
I checked out the rod supplier - good stuff imo.
pretty sure they supply my local model shop with brass extrusions but they only buy-in a limited range (for the railway crowd i think)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..  
   
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Northern Ireland

 Nevelon wrote:
I would paint it the same way I paint all the guns in that army so the force looks coherent. This is generally black with a silver drybrush. But then, I don’t play orks.

Real sniper rifles need to be subtle. But this is not reality. These are game pieces in an over the top world. My running gag is I paint camo like Hollywood makes movies based on real events. You can tell where they are coming from, but it’s got more car chases and explosions. Because real camo is A-boring and B-works. So instead of a cool mini, you end up with an indistinguishable lump of muddy shapes and colors.

If this guy is a specialist in the unit, so his gun has different rules from his mates, you should be able to pick him out of the crowd. Do something to make him stand out.



This sounds like wisdom to me. That big sniper rifle looks like it’d be plenty imposing all in flat black with a big red lens on the sight. The commando himself can be bedecked in a variety of Hollywood camo schemes to spiff him up in the best way.

   
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Ottawa, ON

I think I'll submit more Tau stuff. Nothing screams 'more gun' than the classic Tau hammerhead. Hopefully I will perfect the color orange.

Spoiler:


*Sorry. Forgot to add photo.

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Proof pic for my heretic Astartes legionary heavy gunner for Kill Team:



Figured a Reaper Chaincannon is about as much gun as a single space marine can carry!

I’d started converting up a unit of Fallen ages ago to go with Cypher in my Chaos army, but was dismayed to realise they no longer have 40K rules. However, I think they’ll work nicely as a Kill Team.

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Upstate, New York

WIP



Month is ticking away. Looks like the scouts I also wanted to do are not going to happen, but these guys are getting there.

   
 
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