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Frazzled wrote:
ADAMA IS A CYLON!!!!!!


I knew it!


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No, seriously though. When I watched that episode back in the day Lori being pregnant was not actually what came to my mind at all. But then I came on the Dakka and all the dakknauts in the comic book know where all convinced it was that. It completely made sense so I changed my mind. I don't know if I should put my original theory out there because seriously you non-comic book geeks do not respect the power of the spoiler tag!

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I've seen multiple ideas floated about what he told Rick.

1) Everyone is already infected because the virus is/was airborne. They're all just resistant.
2) There's no cure.
3) Your cure is in another castle on another continent.
4) I really like your butt...

The longer they stay at this farm house without enacting some basic security measures the more I want to watch them all pay for being epically stupid.


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Tyyr wrote:I've seen multiple ideas floated about what he told Rick.

1) Everyone is already infected because the virus is/was airborne. They're all just resistant.
2) There's no cure.
3) Your cure is in another castle on another continent.
4) I really like your butt...

The longer they stay at this farm house without enacting some basic security measures the more I want to watch them all pay for being epically stupid.


See, I was a firm believer that The Doc had told Rick that Lori was pregnant, it was the only thing that made sense ( as far as I could figure)...
Anything else that I can think of, A cure...no cure...another group working on a cure...a government base...them being immune/resistant, I think Rick would have already told the group...he'd have no reason not to and he's too much of a "white Knight" to just " keep secrets".
Him staying quiet about his wife being pregnant made some sense, not wanting to confront the issue, etc...but him staying silent about any other potentialy important bit of info really doesn't make much sense.


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I have this rash...

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Frazzled wrote:I have this rash...


Might want to try some desitin..oh..wait...you mean that's what you think the Doc said...


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FITZZ wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I have this rash...


Might want to try some desitin..oh..wait...you mean that's what you think the Doc said...


-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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The problem is that the pregnancy thing doesn't jive with what they've all be going on about since. You've got Lori flatly declaring the baby to be Rick's, Rick never doing anything with regards to this info acting shocked that she's keeping this kind of secret from him, etc. Up until the last two episodes I was right with you about the Doc telling Rick Lori was knocked up but now, not so sure.


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Tyyr wrote:The problem is that the pregnancy thing doesn't jive with what they've all be going on about since. You've got Lori flatly declaring the baby to be Rick's, Rick never doing anything with regards to this info acting shocked that she's keeping this kind of secret from him, etc. Up until the last two episodes I was right with you about the Doc telling Rick Lori was knocked up but now, not so sure.


Oh yeah, I agree with you, it wouldn't make sense now...but at the time it completely did, I really expected that when Rick found those morning after pills he was going to confront her with something along the lines of " First you hide that your pregnant from me...and now this?...I've known you were pregnant since we left the CDC." sort of thing.
But now, have to admit that I'm stumped as to what the Doc might have told him, like I said...anything about other groups, military bases, immunity & cures, just wouldn't fit...Rick would have said something about any of those things by now IMO.
I'm beginning to wonder if a writer just didn't drop the ball or something .


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FITZZ wrote:
Tyyr wrote:The problem is that the pregnancy thing doesn't jive with what they've all be going on about since. You've got Lori flatly declaring the baby to be Rick's, Rick never doing anything with regards to this info acting shocked that she's keeping this kind of secret from him, etc. Up until the last two episodes I was right with you about the Doc telling Rick Lori was knocked up but now, not so sure.


Oh yeah, I agree with you, it wouldn't make sense now...but at the time it completely did, I really expected that when Rick found those morning after pills he was going to confront her with something along the lines of " First you hide that your pregnant from me...and now this?...I've known you were pregnant since we left the CDC." sort of thing.
But now, have to admit that I'm stumped as to what the Doc might have told him, like I said...anything about other groups, military bases, immunity & cures, just wouldn't fit...Rick would have said something about any of those things by now IMO.
I'm beginning to wonder if a writer just didn't drop the ball or something .

Maybe he was just asking Rick if those pants made his butt look big. I think Rick would keep that to himself...

(yea writers probably dropped the ball).

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Tyyr wrote:I've seen multiple ideas floated about what he told Rick.

1) Everyone is already infected because the virus is/was airborne. They're all just resistant.
2) There's no cure.
3) Your cure is in another castle on another continent.
4) I really like your butt...

The longer they stay at this farm house without enacting some basic security measures the more I want to watch them all pay for being epically stupid.


Spoiler:
Number 1 was what I thought at first except they're not resistant it's just not active yet.


Little background: to me Max Brooksian zombies are the standard, which are probably based on George A. Romero anyway.
Although Kirkman has never read the Zombie Survival Guide, Kirkmanian Zombies only differ from Brooksian zombies in 2 ways.
1)Kirkmanian Zombies enjoy snacking on the occasianal horse or other animal. Brooksian zombies only crave human flesh

Spoiler:
2) Kirkmanian Zombie virus can be latent in people. It's airborne and is in your system but won't become "active" until you die. So someone who has not been bitten and killed by a zombie can spontaneously reanimate. So I figure Mad Scientist guy said "You're all infected."


Another reason I changed my mind is because imo that doesn't seem like as big a deal as the pregnancy, at least to mainstream audiences. In retrospect maybe it is a bigger deal, I don't know.

Finally, to complicate things even more the zombies in the TWD TV show aren't even Kirkmanian zombies. They also are slightly different. These Darabontian zombies, for lack of a better term ,differ in two ways of their own.
1) They'll use tools. They'll grab a rock to break a window, or use a ladder.
2) They're a bit faster. It's TV so they want to make it a bit more dramatic.

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@ Kamikaze....

Spoiler:
...The same sort of " rule" holds true in the Romero mythos, one doesn't have to be bitten to become a zombie, anyone who dies...unless they die of head/brain trauma, will reanimate, and I suppose the Doc could have told Rick something along those lines...but, why would he stay quiet about it? seems to me that would be something he'd let everyone know as quickly as he could...plus it doesn't seem like a big enough " surprise" to spring on the viewer...


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FITZZ wrote: @ Kamikaze....

Spoiler:
...The same sort of " rule" holds true in the Romero mythos, one doesn't have to be bitten to become a zombie, anyone who dies...unless they die of head/brain trauma, will reanimate, and I suppose the Doc could have told Rick something along those lines...but, why would he stay quiet about it? seems to me that would be something he'd let everyone know as quickly as he could...plus it doesn't seem like a big enough " surprise" to spring on the viewer...


Well, we know Rick's whole character and story is about hope. Y'know, "WE HAVE TO WANT TO LIVE PEOPLE!" thing is brought up in some way every episode. I think Rick thinks that if everyone knew that it would just suck all the hope and will to live out of everyone.

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All I can say is, Shane might be going a bit loopy but....

Spoiler:
He got some freaky car sex




Last episode was a pretty good one IMO
   
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Spoiler:
Sophie's a zombie...


Yep...called it...

Also...Lol...portal reference...

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Sophie looked like she had a wound on her shoulder so she might have been nibbled just a touch. While I liked the reveal at the end, I still feel like to much of the actions are being driven by the plot and not by the characters; people are doing dumb stuff or having ott reactions just so we can get get from A to B.

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I can say, its about fething TIME something happened over there. Dont get me wrong, I love this show, but how long do we have to sit and stare at a tranquil farm house? Im sure, but in a world that went to zombies, where there is easily 10s of thousands of zombies in any given area, how in the blue FETH are they staying so untouched? I dont get it.

But yea, last night was nice, and I can say, Shane, its about goddamn time buddy. Im telling you folks, if you dont like how Shane checks himself in Zombie land, then you dont want to be part of my group, thats all Im saying

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Um, wow. While I haven't been among those clamoring for the show to get back to the season 1 style of constant zombie killing and action I have to admit that the slow pace of the show has had me wishing things would come to a head on the far. Did they ever.
Spoiler:

*I actually like Shane right now. I wouldn't want to share a camp with him but on the show I'm loving how his character is coming apart at the seams. He's having his donkey-cave moments but at the same time really consider what's been going on with the guy. He's forced to leave his best friend in the hospital, likely to die either to die due to lack of care or from becoming a zombie snack. Winds up falling in with said "dead" friend's wife. Takes over responsibility for her and her son and finds the role something he likes. He also becomes the leader of this group. Then Rick shows back up and the woman who he'd been involved with suddenly won't have anything to do with him, the boy who was becoming his sort of son suddenly spends all his time with someone else, and his leadership of the group is transfered almost instantly to Rick. It was a huge feth up to his world. Then it just keeps getting more and more fethed up as time goes on with Rick making choices that lower their odds of survival from his perspective. Things just keep happening and he feels largely helpless to correct them and get the group back onto the "correct" path. With a type A personality like his this just messes with him until we get what happens last night. As a final, "feth off," the woman he cared about who is carrying his son tells him it will never be his and Rick shows up with a walker in tow. It's not hard to see how he might finally go off the deep end. The best part of it all is that through it all they've managed to keep Shane at a point where it's hard to argue with him. Most of what he advocates is, while dickish, the moves most likely to help them survive. Even his breakdown at the end forces the group to resolve some serious issues they are having with this situation. He's very interesting right now.

*Daryl's interaction with Carol in the barn was good. I've seen him get some gak for it other places since he forgave Andrea for shooting him but calls Carol a dumb bitch for what she said. Really think about it though. When he forgave Andrea it wasn't just him being nice, he specifically says she was trying to defend the camp and that's why she was forgiven. Carol is abandoning the hope of finding her daughter, the thing that Daryl has been doing all this time and nearly got killed doing, and she's giving up on it. I'd be pissed too if I'd had to pull an arrow out of my side for this woman's cause only to have her turn around and go, "Whatev's, LOL."

*Is T-Dog still even in this show anymore. I think the random twenty something guy that lives on the farm has had as much screen time and as many lines as T-Dog this season.

*What the hell possessed Dale to do that? I've been on Dale's side, sort of (blowing off Andrea almost killing Daryl and Rick or Shane in the process, WTF?) but taking the group's weapons and going to bury them in a swamp, most likely ruining them? What the hell man? This is taking his busy body tendencies WAY overboard. Yeah, Rick wants to try and work things out but Dale KNOWS the barn is full of walkers and they aren't really safe. So he takes most of the weapons and buries them? His lines about this world not taking his humanity like it got Shane's were good but I was thinking, "Yeah but apparently it got your sanity," the entire time.

*Glenn/Maggie is a lot of fun. It's playing out in a reasonable way and not in a vacuum. Maggie's coming around to seeing walkers as dangerous is being handled well and Glenn's admission that sick or zombies the walkers are dangerous and he's not going to tolerate them endangering Maggie was well played. I really liked how Maggie turned things around on Herschel and during the breakout I liked having Glenn give her a look and she just nodded, allowing him to help finish off the zombies and do what he was promising too, keep her from danger no matter what. Glenn even went a little caveman, taking the shotgun when Shane told him to, "Defend what's yours." Hmm, what could that mean I wonder?

*It's nice to see Carl on his feet again. Really sad that as he determinedly states they must find Sophie and can't leave until they do and then not even 30 minutes of screen time later his father has to put zombie-Sophia down right in front of his eyes. I think Shane slapping the pistol in Carl's hand and telling him to do whatever it takes to keep his mother safe was a great one and them loading a Chekov's Artillery Piece.

*Rick is losing it every bit as much as Shane, he's just doing it in a much quieter manner. The guy is in the middle of fighting for his marriage with his wife, the life of his son, and to keep this group of psychotic's from killing each other or getting themselves killed due to their own stupidity. It's slowly tearing the guy apart. Now add in Lori being knocked up and he's finally snapped, doing whatever it takes to get Herschel to let them stay, even going so far as to help lasso a pair of walkers and bring them back to the barn that's a quarter mile from where his pregnant wife and son live. It's one thing to put up with the danger that exists already, it's another to actively bring more to live next to you. However this is all brought to a head at the barn where it's now obvious to him that playing nice with Herschel is over.

*Herschel got a tremendous amount of growth this episode. Which is amazing given how much was going on but then again that shows great writing and direction that this episode got everyone involved in a meaningful way and advanced their characters, except for T-Dog. Anyways, his reasoning for doing things is more obvious. However we also get to see exactly why Herschel is clinging to this reasoning. He's never seen the reality of the walkers up close. You can see it in his face as Shane starts to pop that female zombie. He's watching that walker take shots that would drop any sick person, then kill anyone instantly and she keeps on coming. As Shane put it, "Can a sick person take this?" The only conceivable answer to that question as the walker is still snarling and coming after then with three gut shots, both lungs shot through, and her heart destroyed, is that no they're not just sick. All of which hits him when he makes the connection to his wife and son in the barn. If they're this then all his hope of a cure and getting them back is gone. They're just monsters, and he collapses, offering no resistance as Shane tears the barn open. Amazingly the actor manages to take this a step further as his wife and son are gunned down in front of him.

*The zombie massacre was so well done because it brought all these plot lines and character development moments together in one huge scene. Andrea not running or worried but calmly drawing her weapon. Daryl getting ready with the shotgun, seemingly eager to kill some walkers and get this bitchfest over with. Glenn and Maggie with Maggie finally letting go and Glenn stepping up. Herschel manages to have a total breakdown mid gun battle. Rick watches as Shane finally torches his hopes of peaceful settlement and possibly any chance of peace between them personally. Carl is introduced to the ugly reality of life, that often the bad guy's win. Carol finally gets to see Sophia again but Daryl is the one to have to hold her down. It was this gigantic car crash of plotlines that left me screaming, "NO YOU BASTARDS!" as the credits rolled and I realized I'd be waiting two to three months for this plot trainwreck to start to solve itself.

*I know I've said that I thought Daryl should be the one to kill Sophia if she was a walker and that just having Rick do it is uninspired. I'm going to retract that. Rick went schizo in this episode, doing whatever it takes to no be tossed off the farm. All his peace making and hope was wadded up, doused in gasoline, set alight, and had they're ashes pissed on. The culmination of this all was zombie Sophia. He was the one who left her in the woods. She's a walker because of him. After everything he and everyone else did to find her he had to put a .357 mag between her eyes. It's an opportunity to shatter Rick. I can only hope they take it. I like that you have at least one person trying to stay good, and sane, and cling to the morality of the pre-walking dead world, but if this person is going to be the leader of a group like this they need him to temper that with some practicality. They have the chance to do that now that Rick's been put through this. So they have an opportunity to use this moving forward. If they do or not will ultimately determine if they wasted a perfect opportunity for Daryl or not.


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Overall I enjoyed last nights episode, though there where a few " just to further the plot" moments that I believe could have been done better I still think it was a damned good watch.

Spoiler:
...Shane continues to be one of my favorites and I really " get" what motivates him, seeing him take charge of the situations that all of the other characters were just dancing around and attempting to be " diplomatic" about was great.
Shane isn't a " bad guy" IMO, he's just looking at the situation realistically and making decisions that , from a " safe and sane world" perspective might seem vicious or cruel, but from a zombie invested/ your ass is on the line world perspective make complette sense.

Wasn't a big surprise to see zombie Sophia come staggering out of the barn, but it was well done, Crew cut mom's reactions seemed a bit flat ,actually wish she'd made it past Daryl and gotten to Sophia and been bitten, as I think that could have added to the overall vibe of the scene and really driven home the point Shane was making.
I like that it was Rick that stepped up to destroy Sophia, seems only right since he was responsiable for her being turned and also because he was so sure she was still alive and put everyone at risk looking for her, you could really see how discovering everything he believed and had risked lives for was a waste of time effected him, should make for some interesting conflict ( both internal and external ) when the show comes back.

I'm also really interested in seeing how Herschel reacts to what happened , he just watched a barn full of "people" he knew and cared for gunned down by a group of folks he was trying to get rid of, and I wonder if he will accept that it was the right thing to do or if he'll go bat gak.
Also interested in what Dale will be getting up too as well, The old dude seemed to be loosing it a bit by endangering the whole group by attempting to bury the guns ( in some shortsighted attempt to restrain Shane and "keep the peace").
I really think his tenacious grasp on the " old world" could be his undoing ( still like Dale as a character though).

Looking forward to the start of the next batch of episodes, I have a few predictions as to what's going to happen and will be interested to see if I'm correct.


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Personally I was glad to see all of the frustration and angst between the characters finally come to a head. I was satisfied thought that it didn't culminate in the survivors shooting one another...yet...

Spoiler:
Throughout the season I was one of the ones who had a problem with all of the soap operaness of the character's interactions but looking back over the season and seeing last night's episode I can see why they did it...Last season was all about introducing hte setting , the characters and of course the zombies. there was confusion and death and generally a lot of stuff going on to acquaint the viewer with the rules and standards of an undead world, hence why there were so many zombies then compared to now...

This season was a lot more about the survivors realizing not only in their minds but in their hearts that the old world is gone, that the old standards of compassion and politeness and other socially demanded behaviors have since been thrown to the walking dead. I think Rick and Hershel represent a desire for things to go back the way they were and Shane represents the realization that that won't happen.

I couldn't help but feel a relief and a sense of "its about time" when Shane started his crackdown...he's the character that understands the "whatever it takes" aspect of their survival...too bad he's probably going to end up dead soon...

I think Rick's decision to shoot Sophia was a good one. Not only was it him taking responsibility for his decision to leave her out there, it was an act of mercy, doing it so nobody else had to. It was also an acceptance of sorts of Shane's way of thinking...

In this episode more than ever I think some of the actor's lines rang true. Shane and Dale's conflict finally came to a tipping point with Dale saying "this world was made for you." Personally I think that's got some truth to it but I really don't think Shane was like he is now before the outbreak, I think its more of a mater of the new world forcing him to adapt to survive, the others are just taking longer to get over matters of the heart.

Glen's statement that "Out here, secrets get you killed." Is definitely true. by the end I was glad nobody else was keeping secrets, it was annoying and petty. I think by now that grown adults should be able to realize that in this situation, if people aren't on the same page, they could die. But I guess its part of the whole "hoping everything can go back to the way it was." desire of most of the survivors.

For these two seasons I've tried not to pick favorites but I gotta say now that I'm liking Shane's "get stuff done" approach...it might be d-baggery in the highest calibre but hey, he's still breathing in the end and that's all that matters.

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Not the biggest Shane fan but I must admit he made several decisions that I would have too last episode. Cracking the barn open to do some zombie killing, getting mad at Rick for wasting time zombie wrangling and obviously he had to stop Dale from burying the guns (seriously, what the hell was Dale thinking there?).

On the flip side he's being very stupid with Lori and Carl. He actually thinks he can just replace Rick as Husband and father. He even lai dout his case "I've got 4 saves how many does Rick have?" It's not a Goaltending position dude. Ditto with suddenly wanting to keep looking for Sophia just cuz Carl does.

 
   
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Loved it. The only part I was rolled my eyes at was the score keeping that Shane started to talk about. That and I wanted to smack the farmer when he was being smug and holier than though and basically calling Ricks group a bunch of crazies.

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i'm sure i would not survive in the not so distant zombie apocolypse...

I think Shane is not only a douche, he's a dangerous douche. his mentality is
survival, but not as a group. after what he did to Otis, there's no telling where he'd stop.
I agree with his stance on the barn, just not his execution(no pun intended). if he had
issues, he should have talked to Hershel with Rick. his actions endangers the groups
current situation. and desrtoyed part of Hershels world. not that it was healthy. Hershel
just had the old word ripped away from him. There are better ways to have done it.

And Rick. if he's any more passive, i swear a tree could do his part....

Sad, but expected about the missing girl. i don't understand why Hershel didn't just
tell them she was dead so they'd have possiblely moved on sooner.


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Hershel didn't know. Otis was responsible for coralling the undead into the barn and he was eaten before anyone told him about a little girl they were looking for.

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Hulksmash wrote:Hershel didn't know. Otis was responsible for coralling the undead into the barn and he was eaten before anyone told him about a little girl they were looking for.



You're right! duh....

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The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC

 
   
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In the Talking Dead Kirkman explains that Zombie Wrangling was Otis' job. So they didn't even know she was in there. Before Otis could tell anyone he got shot in the knee and eaten by zombies.

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Yes, even better the girl knew what he was talking about. They're meant to be!

 
   
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Hulksmash wrote:Loved it. The only part I was rolled my eyes at was the score keeping that Shane started to talk about. That and I wanted to smack the farmer when he was being smug and holier than though and basically calling Ricks group a bunch of crazies.


Yeah Hershel is really out of touch with what the world is now...Rick's not helping by beating around the bush but again, I think something in him either snapped or solidified when he had to shoot sophia...whther that will reverberate back on Shane or not remains to be seen, whatever the case the group relationship is definitely more tense now and its only a matter of time before some of them throw down...

I don't think Shane's reasoning was that of a "pay attention to me because I'm doing more for the group and you should be impressed" spin, it was more of a survival argument...Shane is in full on survival mode and possibly now thinks that because he is outperforming Rick that he is more suitable to be Lori's man...just a theory...but Shanes is an entire different type of sanity from the others'

I'm sensing the possibility for a group split...whenever a conflict occurs in the group it may split between those who support Rick and those who support Shane...

I laughed when Lori confronted Shane when he brought the guns out saying "this isn't your call to make" as if it was Rick's who has been unable to make a clear cut decision for half the season...
   
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Shane messed up in last nights episode, and he messed up big. He was trying to make a power play to take over the group, then dropped the ball when he needed to step up. He let the zombies out, took down the zombie, but when Sophia stepped out he just put is head down. Rick had to step up and show that he could do what had to be done.

Rick did what he said earlier on in the episodes about finding her as a zombie. He stuck to his word, it shows that he is the kind of leadership material you need. Somebody who is looking out for the group as a whole. Shane only cares about himself, Lori, and Carl.

Rick is coming along nicely, where Shane is proving to be more and more dangerous to the group. The Zombie Apocalypse is about survival and the survival of your group. Not you and the girl you longed for when you thought your buddy had kicked the bucket.
   
 
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