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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 12:29:31
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Hi all,
I currently have a one assulat squad, the sergeant has:
Combat shield.
Power swoard.
Melta bomb.
I was wondering how you all kit out yours or what you think is the best way to do it, as i m gettting another?
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 12:32:14
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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I built mine in 5th Ed where Power Weapons were all the same, so I used the axe for cool-factor.
Power Axe
Plasma Pistol
Combat Shield.
On occasion I use my squad as Vanguard Vets if I need to make up points, in which case its a Relic Blade and a Storm Shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:04:12
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
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I have a squad of melee dark angels veterans I field in my lists over 900pts because I like them.
The sarge has:
Power maul
Bolt pistol
M bombs (to fill for points)
I usually put them in a land raider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:16:26
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I’m not sure if the combat shield is worth the points.
But I’m a firm believer that plasma pistols are not.
I run mine as a vet sarge with a power sword (and bolt pistol) Partially because I’m a WYSWYG guy and that’s my better equipped one (I have a fist/plasma pistol sarge from days of yore), but also because the assault marine’s job to to harass backfield troops, many of which are either MEQ, where the sword is king, or random mooks, where the type of power weapon doesn’t really matter. If I’ve got 5 points left at the end of list building, he is first in line for a melta bomb.
If you are putting together another one, you might want to consider magnetizing.
I’m not a big fan of loading up 1W models with a lot of wargear. Sticking to one of the basic power weapons is about as far as I like to go. As you already have the sword, you might want to choose a different one for the second squad (assuming you don’t magnetize) An axe is not a bad call, but I dislike going last on such a fragile model. Mauls are a good all-around weapon. Spear might work, but are very situational.
15 points for the pistols are more then they are worth. If you do want to take them, grab the grav pistol, particularly if you take an axe. The concussive rule will let you get your hits in before you get reduced to paste by whatever you are fighting. Because let’s face it, any multi wound model can probably eat an assault sergeant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 13:22:15
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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For regular assault squads, I give the sergeant melta bombs and nothing else.
If I'm using vanguard vets, I will sometimes give him a storm shield, lightning claw and melta bombs (the ss is critical, it allows him to survive challenges and shield the rest of his squad from taking spill-over wounds). But usually I just give him a meltabomb, and use the points saved to buy another vanguard vet for the squad.
I'm a big fan of melta bombs in general, as they allow the squad to demolish vehicles, and to damage MCs (instead of just tarpitting them).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 14:24:45
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Usually, just a Power Sword, occasionally swaps for Maul. The shield will save you one in 6 games, so I never take them.. Sometimes a PlasPistol if I have points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 14:29:43
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
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Paradigm wrote:The shield will save you one in 6 games, so I never take them.
Even less, actually, if during any of these games he takes more than one wound at once. Very common since low AP weapons often have several shots or attacks.
As for my own? My Raptor Champions (Close enough to Assault Sergeants, I guess) have different weapons. One has a power sword and plasma pistol, and one has a combi-melta and a lightning claw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 18:02:22
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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I run my Assault squad with 2 flamers, 10 strong and with a jump Chaplain. Sergeant load is:
Veteran Sgt
Power axe
Bolt pistol
Melta bombs
Combat shield
Bot to everyone's liking, but works for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 18:51:57
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Sir Samuel Buca wrote:I run my Assault squad with 2 flamers, 10 strong and with a jump Chaplain. Sergeant load is:
Veteran Sgt
Power axe
Bolt pistol
Melta bombs
Combat shield
Not to everyone's liking, but works for me.
A good point here is that you run yours with a chaplain (which I also do most of the time). If you have a HQ along to issue/accept challenges, the fact that the sarge is striking last is not such a big deal. Doubly nice with the concussive maul the chaplain is packing.
As with most things marine, how the list looks overall is a critical part of what to give each squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 18:54:05
Subject: Re:Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Stitch Counter
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I know it's not preferred by many, but I built mine with a powerfist and a bolt pistol - sod's law has it the moment I remove the powerfist, another vehicle / high toughness monster will attack the squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 19:02:21
Subject: Re:Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Wulfmar wrote:I know it's not preferred by many, but I built mine with a powerfist and a bolt pistol - sod's law has it the moment I remove the powerfist, another vehicle / high toughness monster will attack the squad
For the points I’d rather have an axe and a melta bomb. Powerfists are just too pricey for a 1W model.
Unless you are playing one of the sons of Dorn. Then take the ‘fist. Same thing with Salamanders and thunder hammers. Or Raven Guard and lightning claws. Rule of Cool and staying true to your fluff is worth the investment of a few points. And as you say, sometimes you just need to rip somethings head off with a giant augmented gauntlet, and would feel bad if you left it back at the armory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/14 19:53:05
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Nowadays I simply give them melta bombs and call it a day.
Altough I have also used them with Power Axes and once even with Power Maul (new personal favourite), but they are sadly difficult to get.
Giving them anything to shoot with is a waste IMO. As are the expensive Storm Shields, they are still models with one wound and 3+ armor and can be dealt with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/16 01:47:01
Subject: Re:Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Mine has a
Plasma pistol
Lightning claw
and Veteran Helmet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/16 01:53:19
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Mine has a powerfist and melta bombs with a combat shield. But he was modeled to look cool so...yeah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/16 11:11:59
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Thanks guys, some good stuff there. I do always run with chaplain where possible. May go with magnets idea.
thanks again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/16 16:53:07
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Magnets are naturally the best choice if you are willing to invest the time and money to it.
Just out of curiousity, what chapter do you play with?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/16 17:18:16
Subject: Re:Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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My sergeant has a power axe and plasma pistol. I sometimes equipt him with melta bombs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/17 01:03:58
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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For me it's 5 guys, two flamers, drop pod instead of jump packs. x)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/17 02:01:46
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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I pretend the combat shield on my sarge is actually a storm shield, so I buy a stormshield for him.
Useful when the squad starts taking plasma fire. If it starts taking bolter fire, I just lookout sir as often as possible to minimize the chances of him kicking the bucket.
I also give him a powerfist since he wont get +1 attack with that stormshield anyway, and whats more, he has 2 base attacks as a sarge, so turning those 2 attacks into PF attacks gives me the most outta them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 02:21:19
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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You pretend it's a storm shield? Can you explain that one a bit more?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 02:31:11
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Minneapolis, MN
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I assume it's because:
Vanguard vets can take Storm Shields, and from a modeling point of view it makes more sense to use a combat shield as a stand-in for the storm shield (it look better on the model).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 02:47:19
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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yeah I meant vanguard vets sry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 06:54:17
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Personally I have 2 favorites, though 1 is Blood Angels exclusive. The first is power sword and melta bombs. The bombs help you crack hard targets, and the sword lets you cut down meqs at initiative and kill things like guard, nobz, boyz, and crisis suits before they can swing back.
The second is double hand flamers on a BA sgt. Its really brutal, super cool, and fun to model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 10:26:10
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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DanielBeaver wrote:
I assume it's because:
Vanguard vets can take Storm Shields, and from a modeling point of view it makes more sense to use a combat shield as a stand-in for the storm shield (it look better on the model).
That still doesn't mean that if you wish hard enough, your Sergeant will magically gain a 3++ sv. My Vanguard veteran Sergeant has a storm shield, because he can take one, my Assault Sergeant has a combat shield, because he can't take a storm shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 18:19:09
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I tought that Assault Sergeants could take Storm Shields?
At least in BA codex it's possible...
And proxying Combat Shield as SS is actually a cool idea I think. The former looks better IMO.
Might just be confusing to the opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 19:10:40
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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soomemafia wrote:I tought that Assault Sergeants could take Storm Shields?
At least in BA codex it's possible...
And proxying Combat Shield as SS is actually a cool idea I think. The former looks better IMO.
Might just be confusing to the opponent.
Blood Angels assault sgts can take storm shields.
Also, the assault marine box comes with a combat shield that doesnt have the pistol. I use those as storm shields, as theyre generally sleeker and better looking. In contrast, my blood champions shield DOES have the pistol in his hand, with the shield attached to his arm. Ive never had any complaints.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 19:24:28
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Nothing wrong with a PSword and Meltabombs. Cheap, cheerful, and good all-round.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/18 20:33:15
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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soomemafia wrote:I tought that Assault Sergeants could take Storm Shields?
At least in BA codex it's possible...
And proxying Combat Shield as SS is actually a cool idea I think. The former looks better IMO.
Might just be confusing to the opponent.
The last Codex they could.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/07/30 07:32:33
Subject: Assualt Marine sergeant kit?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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soomemafia wrote:Magnets are naturally the best choice if you are willing to invest the time and money to it.
Just out of curiousity, what chapter do you play with?
Im running my own chapter the broken swoards but using the Ultramarine rules. They to work for me.
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