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Hey folks just tryint to acquire some tips on how to combat me some Dark Eldar with Orkz i've never played against them before

Artillery, lootas, burna boys, nob bikers and no low AV vehicles.

You try taking boys, nobs or trucks and you might as well not put your models down.

So Bikes BW's Deffcoptas ManZ?

Manz might work if you can get them there. Never played any to be honest.

Ok thanks man gonna suit my my wagon full of Flash gits and see how it goes im more of a speed oriented army

'Ard Boyz in transports.
Trukks might be easy to pop, but orks are even easier to pop.
I'd spam 'ard boyz and trukks, and just mad-dash at him.
At least with 4+ armor, you'll die half as fast.

-Matt

Trukks aren't bad - Dark Eldar antitank is almost entirely haywire weapons and lance fire which doesn't give a monkeys what your armour value is, whilst dark eldar small arms are poisoned and can't touch you. Whilst light armour is suicide against craftworlder eldar, it's actually pretty good against commorites.

Lootas are key; knocking down the raiders is vital. Watch out for jetbikes, too - if those things overfly smallish units they can mulch them in one turn.

Overwatch is your friend. Wyches are devastating in assaults but suffer insane casualties from small arms fire; you tend not to see them except to act as haywire grenade caddies.

Stircrazy wrote:
So Bikes BW's Deffcoptas ManZ?

definitly not Manz. DE will shred Manz in seconds. Even if they did get there, who needs power klaws when you are fighting T3 sv6+ dudes?


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Shingen wrote:
Artillery, lootas, burna boys, nob bikers and no low AV vehicles.

You try taking boys, nobs or trucks and you might as well not put your models down.

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DE actually have a lot of trouble with low AV vehicles. The only way they can deal with them is high strength expensive weapons. Bunch of trucks and some killa kans would be tough for DE to deal with, as they cant kill them fast enough.

What DE excel at is taking on high AV vehicles. anything higher than 12 is counted as 12, and if it comes down to it they can haywire grenade anything dead in 1 turn.

Lootas are great, but they will get shot down very quickly.

Burnas might never get in range

Nob bikers have been alright since they changed ID on them from Str 8 to 10.

Shoota boyz arent half bad against DE.

Dark eldar has a huge weakness to light vehicle spam. A basic DE list has poison and Dark Light weaponry. Great against hordes and heavy tanks. Not so great at killing 15 warbuggies and 18 kanz.

You will probably be facing some sort of skimmer heavy list. So footslogging will never work. You wont ever catch a half intellengent DE player. You'll have to shoot him out of his rides, which thankfully isn't that hard to do.

if the dude is playing competitive DE though... prepare for a butt whoopin. Beastar eats orks. Also copious Eldar allies can make your day real bad, as wave serpents fill gaps in the typical eldar weaknesses.

As a general tactic, don't split up your army. Dark Eldar will pick you apart piecemeal if you don't keep your units together.

Dark Eldar have a bit of trouble with flyers as well.
If burna bombers still get those ignore cover weapons, take them.
Likewise, killa kans with scorchas are a problem. Wall of death from a unit will wipe a whole wych squad, and help with the vehicle spam.
Beast packs don't like fighting walkers, S3 rending and a handful of S5 attacks doesn't get the job done.

-Matt

i do have a Morkanaught a deff dread and only 3 killa kans sadly

 obsidiankatana wrote:
As a general tactic, don't split up your army. Dark Eldar will pick you apart piecemeal if you don't keep your units together.

yes, never split up your army against an army that has more mobility than you. And DE often have more mobility


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 HawaiiMatt wrote:

Beast packs don't like fighting walkers, S3 rending and a handful of S5 attacks doesn't get the job done.

The Baron is Str6 when charging, 7 with 2 pain tokens, and the beast pack has hit and run, so they can stick with the waker for a turn and then leave, possibly with wych squad with haywire grenades ready to pounce on.



I think walkers are good, preferably with dakka(grotzukas or big shootas) but I wouldnt count on countering a beast star with walkers unless you have already killed the Baron.

So should I build a list around my morkanaught 2 deffcopters dread and 3 Kans then just spam bikes ? I do have zhadsnark I was going to run


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So a friend of mine played against this guy and said he likes to play his army using the Raider Rush tactic?