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2014/08/08 23:48:40
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
Greetings! newbie here, i played a 500pts game today and found myself stuck after eliminating the entire necron army except his
Necron overlord who totally demolished my remaining army of 5 termies..
My armylist is as follows:
Librarian
Sword/stormbolter
smite,The summoning and warprift
As im pretty new to the game i can't really explain all the things he had.. However i had to roll 4+ to hit 4+ to wound and he got 2+ save, and when he struck me with his 3 attacks he hit on 4+ and wound on 2+
and i only get termie save on a 5+ except for the ones with the swords, who have 4+.
The hammers seem like a nice idea, i will probably try that out, how many would you suggest?
Can you explain more why the Overlord beat you? Was it on a CCB?
I actually got quite lucky with the CCB as it got shot down by my strike squads psycannon quite early,
but after it got shot down along with all of his troops his HQ who was on the CCB went bananas.
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2014/08/09 01:10:42
Subject: Re:How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
Teknoist wrote: As im pretty new to the game i can't really explain all the things he had.. However i had to roll 4+ to hit 4+ to wound and he got 2+ save, and when he struck me with his 3 attacks he hit on 4+ and wound on 2+
and i only get termie save on a 5+ except for the ones with the swords, who have 4+.
The hammers seem like a nice idea, i will probably try that out, how many would you suggest?
Can you explain more why the Overlord beat you? Was it on a CCB?
I actually got quite lucky with the CCB as it got shot down by my strike squads psycannon quite early,
but after it got shot down along with all of his troops his HQ who was on the CCB went bananas.
If you kill a CCB the Overlord on it dies as well. If he makes his Everliving roll, then the CCB would come back as well. It sounds like he had a warscythe which was doing all the damage to your terminators.
2014/08/09 01:15:47
Subject: Re:How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
Teknoist wrote: As im pretty new to the game i can't really explain all the things he had.. However i had to roll 4+ to hit 4+ to wound and he got 2+ save, and when he struck me with his 3 attacks he hit on 4+ and wound on 2+
and i only get termie save on a 5+ except for the ones with the swords, who have 4+.
The hammers seem like a nice idea, i will probably try that out, how many would you suggest?
Can you explain more why the Overlord beat you? Was it on a CCB?
I actually got quite lucky with the CCB as it got shot down by my strike squads psycannon quite early,
but after it got shot down along with all of his troops his HQ who was on the CCB went bananas.
If you kill a CCB the Overlord on it dies as well. If he makes his Everliving roll, then the CCB would come back as well. It sounds like he had a warscythe which was doing all the damage to your terminators.
huh, well then i might have done better than if first thought..! Thank you
Automatically Appended Next Post: When the CCB returns with everliving, how does that work with its HP ?
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2014/08/09 02:01:47
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
I'll try to see if i can get his armylist, it contained the CCB(with the overlord) and 2 regular troops, i have no idea about the loadouts on any of them though.
once again thanks for all the replies ! i'll make sure to try out the hammers next time i face him, and i shall give you an update!
Brother Payne wrote: Clearly neither of you guys read your FAQs. You should get on that cos you guys aren't playing right.
Edit: in 7th, psychic powers from 5th edition codexes got ditched
Thank you, il get right on that, so this leaves my librarian close to useless?
Not really, just changes him up a bit. Psychic power mechanics have totally shifted in 7th btw (sounds like you're still in 6th so I don't know how much you already know). So yeah he can't take the codex powers but Sanctic Daemonolgy was pretty much a recreation of most of the GK powers, plus he can take any of the other disciplines that aren't biomancy
Brother Payne wrote: Clearly neither of you guys read your FAQs. You should get on that cos you guys aren't playing right.
Edit: in 7th, psychic powers from 5th edition codexes got ditched
Thank you, il get right on that, so this leaves my librarian close to useless?
Not really, just changes him up a bit. Psychic power mechanics have totally shifted in 7th btw (sounds like you're still in 6th so I don't know how much you already know). So yeah he can't take the codex powers but Sanctic Daemonolgy was pretty much a recreation of most of the GK powers, plus he can take any of the other disciplines that aren't biomancy
Cool thanks, so im guessing i can find the powers in the 7th edition rulebook ?
2014/08/09 10:34:01
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
Brother Payne wrote: Clearly neither of you guys read your FAQs. You should get on that cos you guys aren't playing right.
Edit: in 7th, psychic powers from 5th edition codexes got ditched
Thank you, il get right on that, so this leaves my librarian close to useless?
Not really, just changes him up a bit. Psychic power mechanics have totally shifted in 7th btw (sounds like you're still in 6th so I don't know how much you already know). So yeah he can't take the codex powers but Sanctic Daemonolgy was pretty much a recreation of most of the GK powers, plus he can take any of the other disciplines that aren't biomancy
Cool thanks, so im guessing i can find the powers in the 7th edition rulebook ?
Brother Payne wrote: Clearly neither of you guys read your FAQs. You should get on that cos you guys aren't playing right.
Edit: in 7th, psychic powers from 5th edition codexes got ditched
Thank you, il get right on that, so this leaves my librarian close to useless?
Not really, just changes him up a bit. Psychic power mechanics have totally shifted in 7th btw (sounds like you're still in 6th so I don't know how much you already know). So yeah he can't take the codex powers but Sanctic Daemonolgy was pretty much a recreation of most of the GK powers, plus he can take any of the other disciplines that aren't biomancy
Cool thanks, so im guessing i can find the powers in the 7th edition rulebook ?
Correct
Sweet, il probably get the book today, might there be any power that would be especially good against a necron overlord ?
2014/08/09 10:42:56
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
Haha, don't have my book on me atm. Pretty much everything from the 6e book is in the new rulebook so look there. The only new discipline is Daemonology and there's nothing I can think of off the top of my head from there.
To counter MSS, charge your enemy and don't let your character get in B2B with the Overlord. Your character will still be able to swing yet MSS cannot affect him.
If he declares a challenge with the Overlord, send your captain towards it.
Sigvatr wrote: To counter MSS, charge your enemy and don't let your character get in B2B with the Overlord. Your character will still be able to swing yet MSS cannot affect him.
If he declares a challenge with the Overlord, send your captain towards it.
Depends on what the other guy was running. If he had a way to get anything with Haywire across the table (eg. Storm-teks + Veil-tek), Dreads, or any vehicles, really, wouldn't be reliable.
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2014/08/09 15:31:59
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
I find that a squad leader or an HQ with a staff of warding is all it takes. Get the character into base to base, and laugh as things bounce off the 2+ invul save. Then have a daemonhammer or two in the unit smack the snot out of him.
-Matt
Well, if you take santic you can try for vortex of doom because a Strength D weapon in 500 points is funny, also +1 inv is cool on terminators (3++ with swords).
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2014/08/10 05:01:38
Subject: How can i beat Necron overlord as a grey knight ?
HawaiiMatt wrote: I find that a squad leader or an HQ with a staff of warding is all it takes. Get the character into base to base, and laugh as things bounce off the 2+ invul save. Then have a daemonhammer or two in the unit smack the snot out of him.
-Matt