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I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



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That restriction has been removed. You still auto-lose if you have nothing on the table at the end of a game turn though.

I agree with whoever said what is above this post, though it's sad that you Auto-lose if you have no models at first turn because it's therefore impossible to have an army of the Legion of the Damned.

Yeah, that would mean tho that you ALWAYS go 2nd, can counter deploy and run zero risk, essentially cheating your enemy off his turn.

How is turn defined here? Is it P1 turn then P2 turn or is it both players go then turn 2?

 MechaBeast wrote:
How is turn defined here? Is it P1 turn then P2 turn or is it both players go then turn 2?

It's game turn so that would be Player 1's turn and Player 2's turn combined.

 MechaBeast wrote:
How is turn defined here? Is it P1 turn then P2 turn or is it both players go then turn 2?

In this case Game Turn.
So at the end of both players turn.

I just think Grey Knights going 2nd, with everything in reserve is amazing. Seeing as how they can DS first turn. Let your opponent struggle with doing nothing their first turn, especially if you are playing the new missions, since there is nothing to kill.

Should be fun and possible competitive.

Dont legion have a rule like drop pod assault?

Only for one of the Altar of War missions in the LotD supplement, normally they still roll reserves like everyone else, though their deep strike can re-roll scatter

 Thairne wrote:
Yeah, that would mean tho that you ALWAYS go 2nd, ....

Why?

What about double drop pod in reserve for space marine? In old rulebook- They are allow to drop 50% of drop pod in first turn.

I put together a 2000 point list with 7 drop pods that can do a decent null deployment. You aim to go second, keep everyone in their vehicles (using pods and a storm raven) and watch as your opponent mills around aimlessly. If you are forced to go first, just deploy most of the army and drop 4 pods full of guys on your opponent's weak side. It was 6th legal and works just as well in 7th.

So if I am the Player with no enemy models on the field and it hits my Psychic Phase. Can I use my powers willy-nilly since no unit is able to Deny The Witch?

No, as DtW is an army level action when no units are targeted.

Null deployment in maelstrom is risky, as their first turn, depending on cards, can be devastating

Dessorag wrote:
I put together a 2000 point list with 7 drop pods that can do a decent null deployment. You aim to go second, keep everyone in their vehicles (using pods and a storm raven) and watch as your opponent mills around aimlessly. If you are forced to go first, just deploy most of the army and drop 4 pods full of guys on your opponent's weak side. It was 6th legal and works just as well in 7th.

7th still allow that... That was brilliant.
I use 10 drop pod so I can drop 5 at first turn and drop another 5 in 2nd turn+.
Depend on your reserve roll.

Dessorag - did you just drop 4 pods instead of 3?

Other way you can deep strike without transport using jet pack. ( not cheap )

 doomdreamer wrote:
So if I am the Player with no enemy models on the field and it hits my Psychic Phase. Can I use my powers willy-nilly since no unit is able to Deny The Witch?

They may still Deny the Witch, as you do not have to have a target to be able to be denied. They would only get D6 dice though, as you only count psykers on the table (including inside transports).

Solidcrash wrote:


Dessorag - did you just drop 4 pods instead of 3?

Drop pods are half, round up on turn one. Always use an odd number of pods. So for my 7 it was 4 full and a partial deploy with 3 empty hanging out (the ones for my troops because I think they get obsec. Right onto an objective...) or keep all 7 full and do a null deploy.

Dessorag wrote:

Solidcrash wrote:


Dessorag - did you just drop 4 pods instead of 3?

Drop pods are half, round up on turn one. Always use an odd number of pods. So for my 7 it was 4 full and a partial deploy with 3 empty hanging out (the ones for my troops because I think they get obsec. Right onto an objective...) or keep all 7 full and do a null deploy.

Yeah your right... Just read the codex. Round up...

twinner wrote:
I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



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Yep! The look on the other person's face when they see a single squad and the rest in reserves is hilarious. Especially since GK can deep strike from turn 1.

Sixcyl wrote:

twinner wrote:
I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



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Yep! The look on the other person's face when they see a single squad and the rest in reserves is hilarious. Especially since GK can deep strike from turn 1.

Unless he tables you Turn 1. Remember, it can be good and bad to hold units in reserve

 jreilly89 wrote:

Sixcyl wrote:

twinner wrote:
I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



Thanks!

Yep! The look on the other person's face when they see a single squad and the rest in reserves is hilarious. Especially since GK can deep strike from turn 1.

Unless he tables you Turn 1. Remember, it can be good and bad to hold units in reserve

Killing all of your deployed units is not an issue if you have reserves coming in turn one.

You only auto lose at the end of any game turn where you do not have any models on the table.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Sixcyl wrote:

twinner wrote:
I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



Thanks!

Yep! The look on the other person's face when they see a single squad and the rest in reserves is hilarious. Especially since GK can deep strike from turn 1.

Unless he tables you Turn 1. Remember, it can be good and bad to hold units in reserve

Killing all of your deployed units is not an issue if you have reserves coming in turn one.

You only auto lose at the end of any game turn where you do not have any models on the table.

Assume you only have one or two units that deepstrike. Say they mishap and both roll casualties. You just lost. Yeah, its unlikely, but the point is there is something to be said for not holding all your army in reserves.

Or worse, unless your enemy interceptor your deep strike...

Solidcrash wrote:
Or worse, unless your enemy interceptor your deep strike...

I know Tau have that, or a similar ability no? They're the only army I've seen with something like that

Do not forget that if you win your Roll to go first, you may choose to go second.

It may mean Grey Knights everywhere within your ranks, but if they mishap or other, you get your first turn to wipe them....

Or as Nos says, in Maelstrom it's basically free Victory Points =P

 jreilly89 wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

Sixcyl wrote:

twinner wrote:
I know in 6th you had to have 50% of you army on the board. In 7th are you allowed to have more then 50% in reserve? I hope so with the new GK dex coming out ..



Thanks!

Yep! The look on the other person's face when they see a single squad and the rest in reserves is hilarious. Especially since GK can deep strike from turn 1.

Unless he tables you Turn 1. Remember, it can be good and bad to hold units in reserve

Killing all of your deployed units is not an issue if you have reserves coming in turn one.

You only auto lose at the end of any game turn where you do not have any models on the table.

Assume you only have one or two units that deepstrike. Say they mishap and both roll casualties. You just lost. Yeah, its unlikely, but the point is there is something to be said for not holding all your army in reserves.

Or you fail all of your reserve rolls with nothing on the table.

Jreilly89,
As a Special Rule in the core Rulebook, it is something accessible to many more armies then just Tau. Any Army can begin the game with fortifications, of which most of the guns come with the interceptor Special Rule by default. Specific Units within certain armies also come with this rule by default, or more often have access to a Weapon which has this rule on it. There are plenty of ways for any Army to gain the use of Interceptor, though in 7th one desperately wants a weapon which has interceptor and only interceptor now the skyfire-interceptor Rule is gone.

The only reason the Tau come to mind with Interceptor, Skyfire and a few other Special Rules is they are the only army which has a way to put them on nearly everything by default...
I so love the Tau and their modular design.

You can run the risk of losing if you put them deep strike reserve 1st turn. You still have to roll a 3+ to make it on the table

50% of drop pods auto arrive turn 1 - no rolls necessary. They're also really difficult to mishap.

Just watch out for Coteaz... He's been expecting you.