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Space magic.

Cellular memory, maybe all of vulkans memories and experiences are coded into his dna

That would completely negate the need for a brain in the first place.



Which may explain the actions of some of the Primarchs...

He,s immortal.... You can burn him, blast him, flay him, but he comes back

Wolverine is a regenerator. When his brain is damaged, the information stored within it do not regenerate.

Vulkan is a respawner. He's basically save-scumming.

Honestly, I'm more impressed with Vulkan's ability to manufacture mass from nothing.

I mean, the biological ability to regenerate is impressive. But that's nothing against his ability to defeat physics and create matter.

That really has to be one of Unremembered Novel's most glaring faults: the wildly variable regeneration times for Vulkan. From memory, in one part of the story he takes days. And in the final confrontation it's almost immediate.

Actually, I take that back. Unremembered Novel had far worse faults than that. But it didn't help.

Whenever I read threads like this, and "omg Horus Heresy primarchs are too stronk!" threads are pretty common, I think "man, Dakka members would probably just kill themselves if they read Marvel/DC comics".

Wolverine has regenerated from being at ground zero of a nuclear explosion and being reduced to nothing but an adamantium skeleton. He's also been thrown into space and thrown into the sun, and survived. Deadpool has been melted down into a puddle, eaten, then vomited back up several minutes later, and has regenerated.

Dakka Dakka has no idea how tame 40K and the Black Library are compared to fiction.

Wait, you mean 40K isn't fiction?

Of course not.

Do you even newspaper bro?

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Whenever I read threads like this, and "omg Horus Heresy primarchs are too stronk!" threads are pretty common, I think "man, Dakka members would probably just kill themselves if they read Marvel/DC comics".

Wolverine has regenerated from being at ground zero of a nuclear explosion and being reduced to nothing but an adamantium skeleton. He's also been thrown into space and thrown into the sun, and survived. Deadpool has been melted down into a puddle, eaten, then vomited back up several minutes later, and has regenerated.

Dakka Dakka has no idea how tame 40K and the Black Library are compared to fiction.

Or how powerful the Primarchs were in the old Index Astartes articles. I remember several instances of mountain moving.

Given that the Primarchs are all closet daemons, pretty much anything they do can be attributed to "warpy dorpy stuff".

Where does it explain how Vulkan can create matter?

sp33djunkee wrote:
Where does it explain how Vulkan can create matter?

Because he's a perpetual. He just spontaneously pops outta no-where.

sp33djunkee wrote:
Where does it explain how Vulkan can create matter?

The ability to regenerate spontaneously in the manner and speed he does means he's quite literally fabricating new organs out of nothing. In the wild, the species we know of which can regenerate do so by regrowing the lost or damaged parts. Vulkan just magically heals.

It was mostly a joke. It's 40K. So the magical parts are irrelevant.

I was poking fun at the fact that he seems to heal at whatever rate he needs to at that given point in the narrative. When he needed to be unconscious, it took days. When he needed to be nearly impossible to kill in a fight, it took seconds.

His cells regrow and recopy themselves at a phenomenal rate so it appears that he creates it from scratch? And his metabolism is so efficient he can support almost indefinite regrowths.

Done.

 Deadshot wrote:
His cells regrow and recopy themselves at a phenomenal rate so it appears that he creates it from scratch? And his metabolism is so efficient he can support almost indefinite regrowths.

Done.

That still breaks thermodynamics. The heat he would generate would incinerate everyone near him, hell maybe even melt through a couple floors.

... Which would be very fluffy for the Primarch of the Salamanders, although not so much as if they were the Phoenix chapter.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
... Which would be very fluffy for the Primarch of the Salamanders, although not so much as if they were the Phoenix chapter.

I really get that feeling some time that me and some other people should walk up and slap several GW writers, then take their jobs and do things properly.

Every time he dies he regenerates faster, question is, where did that trait come from and could it have been used to heal the emp, also would it work on warp based attacks?

I know it is obviously to serve the plot, but taking the plot armour/paper-armour/regeneration-armour out of it. Why does Vulkan happen to die so much compared to other Primarch's who well, have one shot. Does he die because he sucks big time, or does he die because he knows he can come back so is just reckless with it.

Aren't all Primarchs warp entities anyways?

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I know it is obviously to serve the plot, but taking the plot armour/paper-armour/regeneration-armour out of it. Why does Vulkan happen to die so much compared to other Primarch's who well, have one shot. Does he die because he sucks big time, or does he die because he knows he can come back so is just reckless with it.

Simple logic answers that... in fact you've pretty much answered it yourself in your question. No Primarch can die more times than Vulkan because once the others are dead, they are actually dead. It is impossible to go greater than one when the limit is one. If Ferrus was also a perpetual, maybe he would have died more times than Vulkan, we just don't know, because he was, well... dead.

Also to add on the subject, I wonder if Dak'ir inherited Vulkan's perpetual-ness through the gene seed, considering he's hinted to still be alive and that what marks his second death?

So where does Vulkan respawn? Is it wherever he died, or does he respawn wherever he needs to in order to perfectly fit in with the next part of the story?

BobNT wrote:
So where does Vulkan respawn? Is it wherever he died, or does he respawn wherever he needs to in order to perfectly fit in with the next part of the story?

Nearby his death-point.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
... Which would be very fluffy for the Primarch of the Salamanders, although not so much as if they were the Phoenix chapter.

I really get that feeling some time that me and some other people should walk up and slap several GW writers, then take their jobs and do things properly.

You too, huh?

I think it would partially be attributed to his connection with the warp. In The First Heretic one of the possessed Marines has his head cut/blown off but keeps on coming. It's mentioned that they see a ghostly image of it where it used to be. I guess the warp imprint allows damaged material to be restored or repaired.

The many deaths inflicted at the hands of Curze in Vulkan Lives are the ones that result in his almost instantaneous revival in Unremembered Emprire. He was tortured over a fairly long period of time with lord knows how many deaths.

 Formosa wrote:
Every time he dies he regenerates faster, question is, where did that trait come from and could it have been used to heal the emp, also would it work on warp based attacks?

It does beg the question that if the Emperor knew he was a perpetual and was aware that he would respawn again, why asked to be put into the Golden Throne. I guess he could not take the risk as he was not aware of how long he would be dead and did not want to risk the Astronomicon from not being guided or the breach in the webway from being fully exploited. I believe that it possibly might have something to do with the nature of the battle with Horus as they were fighting on both the physical and immaterial realm. Maybe enough was chipped away in the immaterial that he was no longer able to be reborn or his last attack that he destroyed Horus with took all of his energy, like when

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
... Which would be very fluffy for the Primarch of the Salamanders, although not so much as if they were the Phoenix chapter.

I really get that feeling some time that me and some other people should walk up and slap several GW writers, then take their jobs and do things properly.

You too, huh?

I stopped reading a lot of the Horus Heresy besides the Night Lords and Dark Angels stuff because all I see is a lot missed potential.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I know it is obviously to serve the plot, but taking the plot armour/paper-armour/regeneration-armour out of it. Why does Vulkan happen to die so much compared to other Primarch's who well, have one shot. Does he die because he sucks big time, or does he die because he knows he can come back so is just reckless with it.

That part doesn't make sense because other Primarchs can absorb massive amounts of damage and survive relatively unscathed, but Vulkan who's meant to be one of the strongest has his head turned to vapor by a Human with pistols.

Plus if his head comes off, does he grow a new one or does his head magically slide across the floor to come back to his body and re-attach itself?

Because if he grows a new one, it'd be like "oh ... there's my head ... huh?"