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The Primary Chaos God Dedication Traitor Legions are the:

- Thousand Sons to Tzeentch
- World Eaters to Khorne
- Emperor's Children to Slaanesh
- Death Guard to Nurgle


Looking at the five remaining Traitor Legions dedicated to Chaos Undivided, it's easy to see that some of them would gravitate to one particular Chaos God.

Hence the Secondary Chaos God Dedication Traitor Legions are the:

- Alpha Legion to Tzeentch (cos they are love scheming, deception and subterfuge)
- Sons of Horus/Black Legion to Khorne (just look at Abaddon)
- Night Lords to Slaanesh (they love to sow fear and relish it like Dark Eldar)
- Iron Warriors to Nurgle (like the Death Guard, they value resilience as they undertake a lot of siege work)

As usual, the Word Bearers continue to worship Chaos in its entirety.



It isn't that clear for the Loyalists, but we can still draw comparisons.

- Blood Angels to Khorne (cos of the Black Rage)
- Space Wolves to Khorne (Curse of the Wulfen and their general disposition )
- Imperial Fists to Slaanesh (cos some might get addicted to the Pain Glove)
- Ultramarines to Slaanesh (seems like they also value perfection highly)
- Iron Hands to Nurgle (they remove limbs like the Iron Warriors, they value resilience and despise weakness)
- Dark Angels to Tzeentch (they conspire greatly to keep their dark secret a secret)
- Raven Guard to Tzeentch (though bearing resemblance to the Night Lords, their tactic of keeping hidden is more in line with the Alpha Legion)
- White Scars to Khorne (no strong correlation, but because they love taking heads), or to Slaanesh (they love the exhilarating thrill of rushing into battle)
- Salamanders to ???? (unfortunately I don't know where to put them)

In the older Alpha Legion fluff Tzeentch is mentioned as having quite a large following, but I think that got retconned.

 ChazSexington wrote:
In the older Alpha Legion fluff Tzeentch is mentioned as having quite a large following, but I think that got retconned.

Tzeentch is definitely the go to God for the Alpha Legion if they had to choose. By the way, can you remember where that fluff comes from?


On a side note, apart from Angron, the Primarchs with anger issues included Ferrus, Perturabo, Russ, Fulgrim and Dorn. That's according to the recent BL HH novels.

What a bunch of angsty kids these Primarchs were.

Iron Warriors primarily use Chaos Undivided. Thlse that do worship a particular god are Khornate, not followers of Nurgle.

Post-heresy you can find any warband formally of any legion worshipping any chaos god. There aren't restrictions because of ones legion and there are plenty of examples of individuals from "non-aligned" legions following specific gods.

Besides, it's really rather pointless to assign gods to whole legions when a) most don't operate as anything close to a legion and b) even those that seem like they do break apart with off shoots, mergers, absorptions, and schisms all the time.

If the Iron Hands would ever fall to Chaos it would be to Slaanesh, not Nurgle. Nurgle is too fond of flesh (preferably rotting and diseased) while the Iron Hands strive to get rid of the flesh and become like machines. Those things do not really go along.
The Iron Hands would fall to Slaanesh because of their constant drive towards more strenght and perfection as well as their supressed emotions.
Night Lords would be more Nurgle, as they are all about despair.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
If the Iron Hands would ever fall to Chaos it would be to Slaanesh, not Nurgle. Nurgle is too fond of flesh (preferably rotting and diseased) while the Iron Hands strive to get rid of the flesh and become like machines. Those things do not really go along.
The Iron Hands would fall to Slaanesh because of their constant drive towards more strenght and perfection as well as their supressed emotions.
Night Lords would be more Nurgle, as they are all about despair.

Besides the Iron Hands part happened and they did turn to Slaanesh.

jareddm wrote:
Post-heresy you can find any warband formally of any legion worshipping any chaos god. There aren't restrictions because of ones legion and there are plenty of examples of individuals from "non-aligned" legions following specific gods.

Besides, it's really rather pointless to assign gods to whole legions when a) most don't operate as anything close to a legion and b) even those that seem like they do break apart with off shoots, mergers, absorptions, and schisms all the time.

It is true that the Forces of Chaos are, well, chaotic. Still, the fluff focuses a lot on Legion characteristics and their differences.




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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Iron Warriors primarily use Chaos Undivided. Thlse that do worship a particular god are Khornate, not followers of Nurgle.

You're referring to Kroeger and his cronies right?


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 Iron_Captain wrote:
If the Iron Hands would ever fall to Chaos it would be to Slaanesh, not Nurgle. Nurgle is too fond of flesh (preferably rotting and diseased) while the Iron Hands strive to get rid of the flesh and become like machines. Those things do not really go along.
The Iron Hands would fall to Slaanesh because of their constant drive towards more strenght and perfection as well as their supressed emotions.
Night Lords would be more Nurgle, as they are all about despair.

Actually, all the Chaos Gods have some fixation with flesh, one way or another.

For the Night Lords, their Slaaneshi inclination is quite clear, as is the Tzeentchian inclination of the Alpha Legion. For the Iron Warriors, it is a bit more ambiguous.

I would say that the Iron Hands are largely Nurglesque as they focus on bringing about the decay and destruction of fortresses, like bringers of despair. They are also steady and unstoppable engines of war, kinda like the Plague Marines.

They can also be Khornate, which happens once they break through the walls and rush in to kill the defenders. I believe the Iron Hands are more inclined towards the Khorne-Nurgle path rather than the Tzeentch-Slaanesh path.

However, Perturabo shares Magnus' love of exploring knowledge, and Fulgrim's love of design and architecture. So he does have some Tzeentch-Slaaneshi inclination. Though I doubt he'll turn to Slaanesh after being screwed by Fulgrim in Angel Exterminatus.

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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Iron Warriors primarily use Chaos Undivided. Thlse that do worship a particular god are Khornate, not followers of Nurgle.

You're referring to Kroeger and his cronies right?

In their Index Astartes rules (beta versions of Chaos 3.5 and loyalist versions) Iron Warriors could take 0-1 Berzerker squads, but no other cults.


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OH, and, the Night Lords first appeared in Slaves to Darkness as Khornate.

pelicaniforce wrote:

Maximus Bitch wrote:


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 thenoobbomb wrote:
Iron Warriors primarily use Chaos Undivided. Thlse that do worship a particular god are Khornate, not followers of Nurgle.

You're referring to Kroeger and his cronies right?

In their Index Astartes rules (beta versions of Chaos 3.5 and loyalist versions) Iron Warriors could take 0-1 Berzerker squads, but no other cults.


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OH, and, the Night Lords first appeared in Slaves to Darkness as Khornate.

Yeah, heard about that. And the Iron Warriors were Slaaneshi too. Guess they hadn't finalized the Legion attributes at that time.

As Curze said to Vulkan, "Don’t confuse me with our hot-headed sibling (Angron)."

Maximus Bitch wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Iron Warriors primarily use Chaos Undivided. Thlse that do worship a particular god are Khornate, not followers of Nurgle.

You're referring to Kroeger and his cronies right?

And pretty much all Iron Warrior Assault Companies.

most of the unaligned Legions are apt to have cults devoted to all of the chaos gods somewhere in their ranks. obviously some are apt to be more appealing then others. Iron warriors for example, we know have khornites among their ranks. these are proably the most savage of their savage breach fighters.
But I suspect they have equal proponets of other gods. while they likely don;t have plague marines, anyone whom knows much about seiges is going to know Nurgle would likely take an intreast in the iron warriors, just for example

BrianDavion wrote:
most of the unaligned Legions are apt to have cults devoted to all of the chaos gods somewhere in their ranks. obviously some are apt to be more appealing then others. Iron warriors for example, we know have khornites among their ranks. these are proably the most savage of their savage breach fighters.
But I suspect they have equal proponets of other gods. while they likely don;t have plague marines, anyone whom knows much about seiges is going to know Nurgle would likely take an intreast in the iron warriors, just for example

Iron Warriors consider mutations something bad, I'd bet they don't have many Nurglites and Slaaneshis, Besides their Bloodlust was described(Even Pre heresy) to be bordering on the same bloodlust as the World Eaters and the Blood Angels.

Khonsu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
most of the unaligned Legions are apt to have cults devoted to all of the chaos gods somewhere in their ranks. obviously some are apt to be more appealing then others. Iron warriors for example, we know have khornites among their ranks. these are proably the most savage of their savage breach fighters.
But I suspect they have equal proponets of other gods. while they likely don;t have plague marines, anyone whom knows much about seiges is going to know Nurgle would likely take an intreast in the iron warriors, just for example

Iron Warriors consider mutations something bad, I'd bet they don't have many Nurglites and Slaaneshis, Besides their Bloodlust was described(Even Pre heresy) to be bordering on the same bloodlust as the World Eaters and the Blood Angels.

Mutations is mostly Tzeentch, right?

Maximus Bitch wrote:

Looking at the five remaining Traitor Legions dedicated to Chaos Undivided, it's easy to see that some of them would gravitate to one particular Chaos God.

Hence the Secondary Chaos God Dedication Traitor Legions are the:

- Alpha Legion to Tzeentch (cos they are love scheming, deception and subterfuge)
- Sons of Horus/Black Legion to Khorne (just look at Abaddon)
- Night Lords to Slaanesh (they love to sow fear and relish it like Dark Eldar)
- Iron Warriors to Nurgle (like the Death Guard, they value resilience as they undertake a lot of siege work)

As usual, the Word Bearers continue to worship Chaos in its entirety.

The best Night Lord fluff has them not worshiping chaos at all, just being rebels to the core.
Black legion supports marking yourself with one god, but working together with others from different gods, giving no overall prefference to any of the gods.
Iron Warriors resist mutation. I cant seem them going to Nurgle.
Alpha Legion also do not actively worship chaos.

 Hansisaf wrote:

Khonsu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
most of the unaligned Legions are apt to have cults devoted to all of the chaos gods somewhere in their ranks. obviously some are apt to be more appealing then others. Iron warriors for example, we know have khornites among their ranks. these are proably the most savage of their savage breach fighters.
But I suspect they have equal proponets of other gods. while they likely don;t have plague marines, anyone whom knows much about seiges is going to know Nurgle would likely take an intreast in the iron warriors, just for example

Iron Warriors consider mutations something bad, I'd bet they don't have many Nurglites and Slaaneshis, Besides their Bloodlust was described(Even Pre heresy) to be bordering on the same bloodlust as the World Eaters and the Blood Angels.

Mutations is mostly Tzeentch, right?

Yes, But they don't like to sully their bodies with mutations, Nurglites are mutated beyond recognition.

Khonsu wrote:

 Hansisaf wrote:

Khonsu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
most of the unaligned Legions are apt to have cults devoted to all of the chaos gods somewhere in their ranks. obviously some are apt to be more appealing then others. Iron warriors for example, we know have khornites among their ranks. these are proably the most savage of their savage breach fighters.
But I suspect they have equal proponets of other gods. while they likely don;t have plague marines, anyone whom knows much about seiges is going to know Nurgle would likely take an intreast in the iron warriors, just for example

Iron Warriors consider mutations something bad, I'd bet they don't have many Nurglites and Slaaneshis, Besides their Bloodlust was described(Even Pre heresy) to be bordering on the same bloodlust as the World Eaters and the Blood Angels.

Mutations is mostly Tzeentch, right?

Yes, But they don't like to sully their bodies with mutations, Nurglites are mutated beyond recognition.

And Slaanesh is all about pleasure, which isn't exactly something Iron Warriors are all for, either (far from).

You might find the oddball Night Lord using chaos of some flavor, but Night Lords as a whole reject chaos in all its forms and look down on those who use it as a crutch as being weak.

Col. Dash wrote:
You might find the oddball Night Lord using chaos of some flavor, but Night Lords as a whole reject chaos in all its forms and look down on those who use it as a crutch as being weak.

This

Night lords are a huge legion, without much in the way of orginization or strict doctrine, so they could conceivably be almost anything, but most of them do not worship chaos at all.


Night Lords are all about FREEEEDDOOOOOMMM

 Exergy wrote:

Col. Dash wrote:
You might find the oddball Night Lord using chaos of some flavor, but Night Lords as a whole reject chaos in all its forms and look down on those who use it as a crutch as being weak.

This

Night lords are a huge legion, without much in the way of orginization or strict doctrine, so they could conceivably be almost anything, but most of them do not worship chaos at all.


Night Lords are all about FREEEEDDOOOOOMMM

And batwings.

i think black legion is chaos undivated (abadon has he chaos ancended mark)

also there is no way BA go to khrome, the HATE him, if go chaos they will go slasnesh as :1) they are like emp chlidren and whith red thirst they feeling sensation.or maybe its the changer of whays as ther belief is that everithing can be change to better.....(plus boh gods hate krome )

 Exergy wrote:

Col. Dash wrote:
You might find the oddball Night Lord using chaos of some flavor, but Night Lords as a whole reject chaos in all its forms and look down on those who use it as a crutch as being weak.

This

Night lords are a huge legion, without much in the way of orginization or strict doctrine, so they could conceivably be almost anything, but most of them do not worship chaos at all.


Night Lords are all about FREEEEDDOOOOOMMM

 Exergy wrote:

Maximus Bitch wrote:

Looking at the five remaining Traitor Legions dedicated to Chaos Undivided, it's easy to see that some of them would gravitate to one particular Chaos God.

Hence the Secondary Chaos God Dedication Traitor Legions are the:

- Alpha Legion to Tzeentch (cos they are love scheming, deception and subterfuge)
- Sons of Horus/Black Legion to Khorne (just look at Abaddon)
- Night Lords to Slaanesh (they love to sow fear and relish it like Dark Eldar)
- Iron Warriors to Nurgle (like the Death Guard, they value resilience as they undertake a lot of siege work)

As usual, the Word Bearers continue to worship Chaos in its entirety.

The best Night Lord fluff has them not worshiping chaos at all, just being rebels to the core.
Black legion supports marking yourself with one god, but working together with others from different gods, giving no overall prefference to any of the gods.
Iron Warriors resist mutation. I cant seem them going to Nurgle.
Alpha Legion also do not actively worship chaos.

Night Lords are in denial hahaha they are practically like Dark Eldar Slaaneshi maniacs
Maybe the Iron Warriors detest the random Tzeentchian mutations, and take more to Nurgle instead?
Alpha Legion may not worship, but they pretty steeped in sorcery, mutations and daemonic gak. Besides, they are clearly Tzeentchian.
The Black Legion is indeed kinda "mixed", but Abaddon, Devram Korda and Urkathos are Khorne boys. Skyrak is for Nurgle and of course Ygethmor is for Tzeentch.

Maximus Bitch wrote:

 Exergy wrote:


The best Night Lord fluff has them not worshiping chaos at all, just being rebels to the core.
Black legion supports marking yourself with one god, but working together with others from different gods, giving no overall prefference to any of the gods.
Iron Warriors resist mutation. I cant seem them going to Nurgle.
Alpha Legion also do not actively worship chaos.

Night Lords are in denial hahaha they are practically like Dark Eldar Slaaneshi maniacs
Maybe the Iron Warriors detest the random Tzeentchian mutations, and take more to Nurgle instead?
Alpha Legion may not worship, but they pretty steeped in sorcery, mutations and daemonic gak. Besides, they are clearly Tzeentchian.
The Black Legion is indeed kinda "mixed", but Abaddon, Devram Korda and Urkathos are Khorne boys. Skyrak is for Nurgle and of course Ygethmor is for Tzeentch.

Where do the night lords revel in pleasure, pain, and sensation?

If the night warriors resist mutation, they why would they worship nurgle and give in to decay, embrace a bloated, puss filled, magged infested servitude of Nurgle?

The Alpha Legion is steeped in deception but not the infinite possibility of choice and chance that is Tzeench

How is Abaddon a Khorne boy if he is marked by all 4 gods?

 Exergy wrote:

Maximus Bitch wrote:

 Exergy wrote:


The best Night Lord fluff has them not worshiping chaos at all, just being rebels to the core.
Black legion supports marking yourself with one god, but working together with others from different gods, giving no overall prefference to any of the gods.
Iron Warriors resist mutation. I cant seem them going to Nurgle.
Alpha Legion also do not actively worship chaos.

Night Lords are in denial hahaha they are practically like Dark Eldar Slaaneshi maniacs
Maybe the Iron Warriors detest the random Tzeentchian mutations, and take more to Nurgle instead?
Alpha Legion may not worship, but they pretty steeped in sorcery, mutations and daemonic gak. Besides, they are clearly Tzeentchian.
The Black Legion is indeed kinda "mixed", but Abaddon, Devram Korda and Urkathos are Khorne boys. Skyrak is for Nurgle and of course Ygethmor is for Tzeentch.

Where do the night lords revel in pleasure, pain, and sensation?

If the night warriors resist mutation, they why would they worship nurgle and give in to decay, embrace a bloated, puss filled, magged infested servitude of Nurgle?

The Alpha Legion is steeped in deception but not the infinite possibility of choice and chance that is Tzeench

How is Abaddon a Khorne boy if he is marked by all 4 gods?

The Night Lords are said to revel in the fear they cause. The Alpha Legion are quite Tzeentchian, no two ways about it. Abaddon is marked by all 4 and said to be of Undivided, but he practically behaves like a Khorne boy. Especially in the HH series. So aggressive, loud and brutal.

Anyway, you missed the point, all are said to Undivided, but I'm trying to explore their leanings.

The Iron Warriors are the most difficult to pin down. Presumably they resist Slaaneshi/Tzeentchian mutation while turning to Nurgle to help them bring down all forteresses Hrud style. Hrud are like Nurglesque xenos and interestingly they had a notable campaign against the Iron Warriors.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
If the Iron Hands would ever fall to Chaos it would be to Slaanesh, not Nurgle. Nurgle is too fond of flesh (preferably rotting and diseased) while the Iron Hands strive to get rid of the flesh and become like machines. Those things do not really go along.
The Iron Hands would fall to Slaanesh because of their constant drive towards more strenght and perfection as well as their supressed emotions.
Night Lords would be more Nurgle, as they are all about despair.

I kind of respectfully disagree, the Iron Hands think that flesh is weak, hence the wish to change flesh with mechanical parts. What better way than to replace weak flesh with zombie flesh whose constitution doesn't matter; they feel no pain. That makes me want to put some Iron Hand Nurgle followers in my army, complete with rusty metal limbs haha.

The old Rogue Trader days had Night Lords aligned with Khorne. I believe this was due to the fact that he embodied murder as well as rage and war. I don't see the connection between Slaanesh and Night Lords.

Even before Curze's death, it was known that the Night Lords were enjoying what they did and how they did it. This hasn't changed in the slightest.

We just had a thread on this. The fluff-as-written from a number of sources provides several examples of Night Lords serving this, that or another of the Ruinous Powers, some becoming Daemon Princes, and others being either Possessees or Mutants.

I guess the reveling in the murder of the innocent and helpless could be a connection towards Slaanesh. I think their self-beliefs as hunters and murderers also gives a solid connection to Khorne though. I understand that any Astartes could fall to any chaos power but I think certain Legions/Chapters would have predispositions to dedicate themselves to a power.

Those NLs who are in Raptor Cults are said to follow Ruinous Powers other than the Great Four. This is often true of Raptor Cults in general.

I remembers on 1d4chan ( bare with me) it stated that some Raptor Cults might worship Malice, so that makes sense to me. I'm sure Raptor Cults (the ones that act as mercenaries) are going to come into contact with forces of various powers.