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Hello all,

Thought i may start with Space Wolfs but i dont rly understand their position in the game, i mean i get they are part of the space marines but it seems there are a thousand "tribes" of them.
I allready tried to get a hold of it by checking the official page and wiki but i dont rly understand the concept, there is just to much story behind it.

So my questin is how many space marine tribes are there? And how do they difference? Is it just a different painting or do they have different units/weapons etc.

I would also appreciate generall tips about starting a wargame, what coulors and brushs to buy etc


regads

Welcome to Dakka!

I dont know much about SW but for paints and brushes....

Paints are whatever fits in your budget and what your preference is. I personally like Vallejo and Reaper Pro Paints. And there are many brands out there, Just research and experiment.

As for brushes, again there are tons of different ones out there. And just because a brush is expensive doesnt mean its good. I personally prefer Kolinski Sable but that is just me. I have many different sizes that run all the way down to 30/0 which I use for eyes.

In case you dont know, your FINE tip brushes all start at 0 I think and you will most often find 0, 00, or 000. I use these brushes mostly for fine details on the figs. As I said above, I use 30/0 for eyes, but also use 10/0 and 20/0 for the eyes as well.

and 30/0, 20/0 and 10/0 are nothing more than just 30x0, 20x0, 10x0.

I hope this helps some and doesnt confuse you.

It does ofcourse,

I did take a look at the two colors you mentioned, they both look like regular model painting colors. The problem i may have with those would be that i dont get the right color schemes like they are supposed to be.

What about the official Games Workshop colors, citadel seems to be the name. They have speciall color packs, one is for Space Wolfs. What about those are they any good or to overprized?

 Lepton wrote:
It does ofcourse,

I did take a look at the two colors you mentioned, they both look like regular model painting colors. The problem i may have with those would be that i dont get the right color schemes like they are supposed to be.

What about the official Games Workshop colors, citadel seems to be the name. They have speciall color packs, one is for Space Wolfs. What about those are they any good or to overprized?

Take a look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKdzNh1JGE4&list=UUwdh3MTrFq3sXlB4ct8B-Fg

It's a pretty good tutorial on how to paint space wolves.

That does rly help thanks a lot.

Hi,

Welcome to Dakka

Hello! Welcome to Dakka Dakka!

Welcome!

My one piece of advice before playing 40k is to make sure you have people to play with. One the toughest things is starting an army and then realizing no one around you plays!

Nooo! Don't do it. Save yourself while you can!



Hi there.

Welcome to 40k.

You really only need a couple of brushes. I use a size 2 for most things, and a larger brush for basecoats and vehicles. An old brush for drybrushing is useful too,
GW do make good tools, and I only use GW paints, but there are better out there, for the price.

Space Marines come in various flavours, being around 1000 chapters, each chapter being roughly 1000 Space Marines. Then there are the drivers, support staff, Techs, etc.
But, rules-wise, there are only 14 or so.
Codex:Space Marines lists most common chapters, and the rules that make them different. Ultramarines are the most 'generic', the others being more specialised. White Scars like bikes, Iron Hands are tough, etc.
Space Wolves do not teleport or use common Psyker powers, and use drop pods more than most other chapters.

Guess its to late by now i am allready hyped

I ordert the Space Wolfs Codex and the Color set for Space wolfs, do i need the normal Space Marine Codex aswell?

Nope, just 1 codex required.

space wolves ARE space marines, but they have different units, like fenrisian wolves. they are a completely different army to marines, but are still part of the whole 'marine' bracket

I wonder what kind of glue will i need?

GW offers plastic glue and super glue, both are avalible in thin and thick. I assume i will need both plastic and super depending on my model but what about the thin / thick part?

To glue plastic models so they never come apart, use plastic glue. It melts the plastic where it touches, and will become 1 piece. It doesn't dry straight away, so is good for adjusting position before it sets.
Super glue can stick almost anything, but dries brittle. It also sticks in place very quickly.
Super glue can be taken apart after some time on the freezer. Some people will not buy 2nd-hand models that used plastic glue, only super glue, for that reason.

 Lepton wrote:
I wonder what kind of glue will i need?

GW offers plastic glue and super glue, both are avalible in thin and thick. I assume i will need both plastic and super depending on my model but what about the thin / thick part?

Don't buy the GW glue. I've found it to be quite crap. I use the Revell plastic glue and that is awesome.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Lepton wrote:
I wonder what kind of glue will i need?

GW offers plastic glue and super glue, both are avalible in thin and thick. I assume i will need both plastic and super depending on my model but what about the thin / thick part?

Don't buy the GW glue. I've found it to be quite crap. I use the Revell plastic glue and that is awesome.

GW glue sucks. I use Loctite professional, works pretty good.

Yeah!!! Welcome to Dakka!

Space Wolves are pretty awesome and they have their own set of rules. While they are Space Marines they don't follow the standard Codex Adeptes Astartes. Other chapters that are different enough to have their own codex include Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Grey Knights.

40k can be a ton of fun with like minded individuals to play with. And making and painting the models is also really enjoyable. Do you play any other war games?

 Icculus wrote:
Yeah!!! Welcome to Dakka!

Space Wolves are pretty awesome and they have their own set of rules. While they are Space Marines they don't follow the standard Codex Adeptes Astartes. Other chapters that are different enough to have their own codex include Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Grey Knights.

40k can be a ton of fun with like minded individuals to play with. And making and painting the models is also really enjoyable. Do you play any other war games?

Hi and thanks mate, no i dont play any other war games and have never done any miniature painting or something similar. I am totally new to the hole thing.


I am also kind of surprised to read that much negative stuff about the GW glue, didnt expect the official product to be that bad

GW likes to capitalize on their name and use the "official" product tag to charge you more than they should.

Like their modeling tools are super expensive compared to standard hobby knives and clippers that do the same thing.

One thing you may come to realize about GW; they have awesome models, really some of the best out there, but their business scheme and money-making tactics are pretty brutal.

My advice to someone set on playing 40k is this: never buy their hobby tools or supplies. Paint, glue, tools, you can get better elsewhere.

Their paint isn't so bad though, so you should be ok.

Oh, and welcome to Dakka!

 liquidjoshi wrote:
My advice to someone set on playing 40k is this: never buy their hobby tools or supplies. Paint, glue, tools, you can get better elsewhere.

Their paint isn't so bad though, so you should be ok.

Oh, and welcome to Dakka!

I still dont use their paint. I use Army Painter.
Although GW does have a much larger range and some different types. So if I was a better painter (or at least willing to spend more time on painting) I would probably use the citadel paints. Also you can follow the painting guides more easily with the citadel sets to match colors.

I allready figured that most, if not all of their stuff is a bit on the overprized site of the scale but as i am totally new i dont mind paying a bit more due to inexperience. Like for paints just to make it easy to follow some painting vids etc
Another question came to my mind, how do i clean up my brushes? I guess turpentine would be ok or is there anything else you guys use for it?

I use these brushes mostly for fine details on the figs.