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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 03:26:30
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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I didn't see a topic on this anywhere so here it goes.
I really disliked it. I was really disappointed. The only thing I liked about it was the Sherman tanks, and the Shermans vs Tiger 1 battle. Even that battle was a bit unrealistic IMO. This movie felt like a cross between Apocolypse Now ..The Road Warrior, and "Thugs & Tanks". This movie was like how the D&D movie was to LOTR, without the comic relief. With this movie being the D&D equivalent and Saving Private Ryan was LOTR.
It felt like it was directed by a high school director. Even though it was in fact directed by the guy that did Training day, which I loved.
I give it a C- only because the tanks were cool.
GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 03:28:11
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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The only thing that really bugged me was how predictable the end was.
Other than that, I thought it was OK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 03:55:19
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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It seemed like a serious south park. They took the theme and events to the very extreme and relied on shocking the audience. Except it just wasnt funny.
That ending was painful to watch too.
All the girls in the theater cried which didnt help my enjoyment.
Overall it was an average movie. But I think I will stick to documentaries for that sort of genre.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 04:00:05
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 04:14:38
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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The best thing about the movie was that Tiger I they fought was a real working Tiger. Not some lets make a tank look like a Tiger but one of the last fully* functional tanks still around. Absolutely amazing in my opinion.To clairfy, the working Tiger was amazing. Rest of the movie...ehh
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This is silly! Buttons are not how one escapes dungeons! I would smash the button and rain beatings liberally down on the wizard for playing such a trick!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 04:33:59
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Refused to see it. It seemed to much like a play on Audie
Murphy Movie "to hell and back"
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
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Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 04:38:59
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Stormin' Stompa
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I enjoyed the tank combat, which is why I wish there was more than two scenes. I feel like they could have shortened the city scene and spent more time on combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 07:51:06
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I really liked it. My main concern was that it was going to sell the 'war is hell' line pretty hard and end up mawkish, but it just stayed short of this. The battle scenes were intense and did stretch credulity but it is an action film too. One thing I think they failed to take advantage of was the size of a real Tiger, rarely were there shots that allowed direct comparison of people or the sherman alongside it. Having seen both the real and Saving Private Ryan tiger, the difference is obvious, the real Tiger is massive. The only thing that really jarred Was the execution of the german. That certainly happened but people probably wouldn't do it in front of a crowd of 30+, it would be more of a "I'll catch you guys up in a bit" attitude.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 07:58:16
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I thought a great tank movie was 'The Beast' (also called Beast of War when I looked it up on IMDB), about a Soviet tank crew in Afghanistan. Well worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 08:22:49
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Pacific wrote:I thought a great tank movie was 'The Beast' (also called Beast of War when I looked it up on IMDB), about a Soviet tank crew in Afghanistan. Well worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
That's a good one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 08:48:22
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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me and my girlfriend are seeing this on the weekend, but now I'm worried.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 09:50:06
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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See John wick
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 09:57:55
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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I've seen the Fatal Fury animated movie. Does that count?
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 11:33:32
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Major
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Saw it a couple of weeks ago. Considering the film had being heavily pushing its self on its ‘realism’ largely based on the fact they managed to get a real Easy Eight Sherman and Tiger tank involved, it then they then seem to squander it by completely getting the actual battles completely wrong. Most of the battles scene where ludicrous and made Saving Private Ryan look like a detailed documentary in comparison.
The Germans never make any attempt to hit and run, as they were doing at that stage in the war. Instead they seen to throw themselves fanatically onto American bullets. The climactic battle scene in particular has the SS charging Fury’s machine guns like depressed lemmings. They don’t even breaking out the panzerfauts until after about 15 minutes into the fight.
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"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 12:02:10
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LuciusAR wrote:Saw it a couple of weeks ago. For a film that had being heavily pushing its self on its ‘realism’ largely based on the fact they managed to get a real Easy Eight Sherman and Tiger tank involved, they then seem to squander it by completely getting the actual battles completely wrong. Most of the battles scene where ludicrous and made Saving Private Ryan look like a detailed documentary in comparison.
The Germans never make any attempt to hit and run, as they were doing at that stage in the war. Instead they seen to throw themselves fanatically onto American bullets. The climactic battle scene in particular has the SS charging Fury’s machine guns like depressed lemmings. They don’t even breaking out the panzerfauts until after about 15 minutes into the fight.
My thoughts exactly..Not to mention the blind Sherman charge on the Tiger, instead of trying to flank it? or the slow and steady creep towards the antitank guns?
And the ending..I predicted the order in which they would die, it was just so cut and paste.
While I think it was generally well acted, I got tired of the shrek styled "Puss and Boots" teary eyed closeups of Shia Labuef.
GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 12:44:33
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Courageous Grand Master
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During filming, they annoyed people in England with German troops marching around of remembrance day. It never really recovered from that bad PR.
I will wait for the DVD release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:14:16
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Howard A Treesong wrote:I really liked it. My main concern was that it was going to sell the 'war is hell' line pretty hard and end up mawkish, but it just stayed short of this. The battle scenes were intense and did stretch credulity but it is an action film too. One thing I think they failed to take advantage of was the size of a real Tiger, rarely were there shots that allowed direct comparison of people or the sherman alongside it. Having seen both the real and Saving Private Ryan tiger, the difference is obvious, the real Tiger is massive. The only thing that really jarred Was the execution of the german. That certainly happened but people probably wouldn't do it in front of a crowd of 30+, it would be more of a "I'll catch you guys up in a bit" attitude. I loved it. There is a story of a Russian T34 in 1942 in a natural chokepoint by a river that held off a regiemnt sized force for a day, because they couldn't kill it. It wasn't the greatest movie in the world but it wasn't trying to be. It did show different circumstances they would face- city fighting, open terrain, even fighting a much superior tiger. Could have done without the new guy and just went with the original crew. You want real you watch Restrepo. You want to watch good guys killin Nazis you watch Fury.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:45:47
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Frazzled wrote:
I loved it. There is a story of a Russian T34 in 1942 in a natural chokepoint by a river that held off a regiemnt sized force for a day, because they couldn't kill it.
This was a K1, not a T34. And it wasn't a Regiment. it was the entire 7th Panzer Division*. And yes. It is one hell of a tale. In 1942, the K1 was literally unkillable by anything the Germans had. Artillery, tanks, satchel charges, nothing could pierce that armor.
*Technically, they weren't holding off the division so much as making it impossible for the division to move. The K1 actually broke down at that position, and proceeded to fire on any Germans it saw. Just so happened those Germans were fuel trucks for the 7th, who couldn't move because they didn't have enough gas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:52:30
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I wonder if I can buy a fully functioning tank....
Or just give a bull-dozer a more powerfully suspension, engine and weld some four-inch steel panels to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:54:09
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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There are a fair number of Shermans actually on the market, and other tanks too, but they are pricey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:56:36
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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T-55s are dirt cheap.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 13:57:22
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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mmm, on my ten-dollar-a-week-15 year old-budget it should only take *...* a few hundred years to save up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 19:33:22
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Major
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The Tiger Tank fight was awesome, though the Tiger commander made some questionable decisions, I know the shermans fired smoke to get him to advance, but even once the smoke cleared he kept advancing, and once he was "dogfighting" Fury he didn't rotate his hull along with the turret like most good tiger crews did. For a Tiger I crew to survive to 1945 they must have been pretty good (most of the inexperienced crews that the germans had at this point were in newer tanks, a Tiger I crew would probably have been veterans of at least Normandy).
However, those are nitpicks. Seeing a real, working Tiger I in "action" was well worth it.
Yes the SS were stupid in the final fight but that's just what you have to expect from a hollywood movie. Besides the final fight I really liked it.
One final thing I really liked was how it handled the obligatory "shooting a POW" scene. I personally hate it when movies, particularly Saving Private Ryan, think that they can get away with having their main characters shooting POWs because they're just Nazis. Well call me old fashioned but I think shooting POWs is wrong regardless of who they are. In Fury the new guy character is forced to shoot a German prisoner, however the movie makes it fairly clear that thats not a good act, and that the other tank crew are not good people. In saving private ryan the new guy character shoots a POW at the end, as if this is supposed to be some kind of defining character moment. I don't really think a good character arc should end with war crimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 19:42:50
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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Was a good action film based on a WW2 setting, I think thats about it.
Was good to see the Tiger in it  I have seen that tank from its shell to moving under its own power at bovi.
It is in fact the only known working tiger in the world and the maybach engine had to be rebuilt by using parts from their King Tiger and Jagdtiger :( If I win the lottery I am going to learn how to machine all the parts for the engines just so they can get their other German tanks moving!
If your interested here is a vid I took a couple of years ago of the Tiger (also some other WW2 tanks at the start)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_5Dp7_Uc4
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 19:56:06
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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EmilCrane wrote:The Tiger Tank fight was awesome, though the Tiger commander made some questionable decisions, I know the shermans fired smoke to get him to advance, but even once the smoke cleared he kept advancing, and once he was "dogfighting" Fury he didn't rotate his hull along with the turret like most good tiger crews did. For a Tiger I crew to survive to 1945 they must have been pretty good (most of the inexperienced crews that the germans had at this point were in newer tanks, a Tiger I crew would probably have been veterans of at least Normandy).
However, those are nitpicks. Seeing a real, working Tiger I in "action" was well worth it.
Yes the SS were stupid in the final fight but that's just what you have to expect from a hollywood movie. Besides the final fight I really liked it.
One final thing I really liked was how it handled the obligatory "shooting a POW" scene. I personally hate it when movies, particularly Saving Private Ryan, think that they can get away with having their main characters shooting POWs because they're just Nazis. Well call me old fashioned but I think shooting POWs is wrong regardless of who they are. In Fury the new guy character is forced to shoot a German prisoner, however the movie makes it fairly clear that thats not a good act, and that the other tank crew are not good people. In saving private ryan the new guy character shoots a POW at the end, as if this is supposed to be some kind of defining character moment. I don't really think a good character arc should end with war crimes.
I particularly light the field scene with the infantry. Thats a perspective you don't normally get (trying to take on an infantry position from the point of view of the tanker). The fact they used proper support was almost anti Hollywood.
I liked a lot of the little bits - seeing the bombers (was it me or were there fighters attacking the bombers), the tanks moving through brush etc. I didn't give a care about the new guy, as noted. I would have been happier with just the seasoned tank crew.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 20:07:58
Subject: Anyone see Fury?
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If you can find it the Smithsonian did a good Documentary on the making of Fury called "Tanks of Fury"
To my they looked like they Logistic Issues with what they could do with the Tiger, that and they had it for only one day.
That might be what drove the cerography of the Fight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 20:09:59
Subject: Re:Anyone see Fury?
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I enjoyed the combat.
But overall the movie had National Lampoon meets Saving Private Ryan feel to it. Did not mix well.
Wasn't the worst WWII movie ever, but not the best.
Something I have to wonder, why do movies and TV shows have to make soldiers have the pointless and useless complex like they did with the SS in this movie? Stormtroopers from star wars, Romans from Spartacus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 23:06:02
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I've not seen the film yet sadly.
However, one comment people suggested about the end was, don't think of it as a depiction of the battle, but instead think of it as something more like the characters interpretation of the battle.
Dunno how much that makes sense or anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/13 23:08:57
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I saw it a couple of weeks ago. I liked it. Not great but not bad. The last fight scene really wrecked it. Way too ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/14 00:52:32
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Grim Rune Priest in the Eye of the Storm
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It also helps to have the right attitude when you go to see a movie.
Fury looks to be 300 or the 7 Samurai, but with Tanks, just like Saving Private Ryan
Oceans 11: Kelly's Hero's, Three Kings
What made The Beast so good, was the fact it was more of a human interest story that happened to be set in a War Zone.
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