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I'm gonna go ahead and just give a shout-out to the Occupy Oklahoma City folks as well as the Oklahoma City Police Department. Over these last months, and especially the last week, they have shown how to handle a difficult situation in a pretty decent manner.

1) The Occupy folks picked a park in downtown Oklahoma City, and actually got daily permits to use it.

2) The park rules officially prohibit staying at the park overnight, but the city and the Occupy folks agreed that as long as the daily fee is paid and a permit is issued, the protesters can camp overnight as long as it remains sanitary and clean.

3) The Occupy folks actually keep things sanitary and clean.

4) If there is any "March on City Hall" or "March on the Capitol" events going on, they got permits from the cops and the cops provided escorts and shut down streets for them to march.

5) On Monday the city decided to no longer issue the daily permit because of construction in the area and an episode where drunk homeless people attacked the park and made a mess. The Occupy folks have cleaned up the mess and said that they would challenge the decision of the city and file an injunction to stop the city from removing them.

6) The last permit expired at 11pm Monday morning and the protesters were no longer allowed by the city to camp at the park. The city says they can still be there every day, just not camp. The protesters did not leave, and no riot police showed up. The protesters actually had a meeting that night with the Police Department and informed them of their decision to file a suit with the Federal Court.

7) The lawyer with the group said it would take until Thursday to do all the paperwork, get it filed, etc. The Oklahoma City Police Department decided that they would not take any action against the protestors until the paperwork is filed.

8) Paperwork was filed yesterday, Judge said he would make a ruling soon, OKC PD states that they will stand down until a ruling is made.

9) At no point has there really been any hostilities between the protesters and the PD. Everybody has been treating each other with respect, and it seems like that has worked fine so far. Amazing how smooth things can go when both sides are willing to work together and communicate.

So I have to say, I am very proud of our local protesters and our local PD. There was an incident in Del City where protesters were arrested, but nothing here in Oklahoma City. Of course that does not mean that they will go crazy next week, but so far so good.

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Radiation, can you give a link to a particular page or article there which is specifically relevant to the topic? The links to the base pages don't seem to add much to the conversation at this point.

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Oh, a walk out "strike" (its hard to strike when you're the one paying), we had those at my undergrad school too. It was great because when they happened I knew I could get hammered the night before nd not worry about showing up to class.

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Mannahnin wrote:Radiation, can you give a link to a particular page or article there which is specifically relevant to the topic? The links to the base pages don't seem to add much to the conversation at this point.


Yeah. Try reading the post above mine that says "all I learned..." and then look at my post that shows a link to the website of the movement that I started a thread about 22 pages ago. Then if you want to take a look at a specific image that hasn't shown up in this wonderful discussion try to click on the second link. Its from the same website. Thanks for your continued contribution. I would like to keep as on topic as possible at this point seeing as we have talked about a lot of issues surrounding the topic and I have enjoyed yours and everyone elses thoughts so far. Oh look dogma has something to say about strikes. And there is a funny joke about drinking in his post too. Haha. Oh dogma.



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Good stuff. I totally laughed. Thanks for the link Jihadin.

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Radiation wrote:Oh look dogma has something to say about strikes.


How does one strike when one is not being employed outside of voluntary action?

Did I strike when I decided that going to Introduction to Anthropology was less interesting than watching Avatar (not the movie) with my girlfriend?

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dogma wrote:
Radiation wrote:Oh look dogma has something to say about strikes.


How does one strike when one is not being employed outside of voluntary action?

Did I strike when I decided that going to Introduction to Anthropology was less interesting than watching Avatar (not the movie) with my girlfriend?


1. Read the last paragraph of that section again, and continue with your line of questioning.

2. Did you? I am sure someone wants to know.

   
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Radiation wrote:
1. Read the last paragraph of that section again, and continue with your line of questioning.

2. Did you? I am sure someone wants to know.


I'm not sure what "section" you're referring to, but I am willing to assume that you cannot produce an answer.

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dogma wrote:
Radiation wrote:
1. Read the last paragraph of that section again, and continue with your line of questioning.

2. Did you? I am sure someone wants to know.


I'm not sure what "section" you're referring to, but I am willing to assume that you cannot produce an answer.


Press Release-Campus-Wide Strike

/Last Paragraph

"The strike will entail total campus participation in shutting down the operations of UC Davis, including teaching, working, learning, and transportation. In doing so, the students, faculty and workers involved in Occupy UC Davis aim to assert the power—and the will—to effectively represent and manage themselves. We are glad to accept the endorsements of all the unions and student groups that have...yada yada"

Would you like a spoon with that assume?

So did you? Strike?

   
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Radiation wrote:
Would you like a spoon with that assume?


Is that supposed to be a clever play on the "assumptions make an ass of you and me." cliche?

Radiation wrote:
So did you? Strike?


Of course not, why would I? I have nothing to protest except self-righteous college students who don't know how to engage in constructive debate.

That being said, neither did UC Davis' Occupy group, because it was primarily constituted by students. Calling the walk-out a strike is lazy equivocation.

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dogma wrote:
Radiation wrote:
So did you? Strike?


Of course not, why would I? I have nothing to protest except self-righteous college students who don't know how to engage in constructive debate.


Is that a hobby of yours or is it more of a career path?

   
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Radiation wrote:
Is that a hobby of yours or is it more of a career path?


It was a hobby, but now that I have students its at least a job, if not a career.

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dogma wrote:
Radiation wrote:
Is that a hobby of yours or is it more of a career path?


It was a hobby, but now that I have students its at least a job, if not a career.


Sounds exciting.

   
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Lt. Pike and his past "using of a profane anti-gay epithet" against a fellow gay police officer in 2003.

Ended in a 2008 settlement where Pike's actions cost $240,000. When the gay police officer saw the news about the pepper-spray incident he said he was shocked but not suprised when he realized it was Lt. Pike.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/11/25/john-pike-uc-davis-pepper-spray-anti-gay-slur_n_1113420.html

I would just like to remind everyone that there are many conversations evolving from this incident. There will likely be more news to report as the various investigations and administrative actions continue.

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Radiation wrote:Lt. Pike and his past "using of a profane anti-gay epithet" against a fellow gay police officer in 2003.


I wish I found this shocking...


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Radiation wrote:Lt. Pike ... fellow gay police officer


Lt. Pike is gay?

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Monster Rain wrote:
Radiation wrote:Lt. Pike ... fellow gay police officer


Lt. Pike is gay?

More likely it's saying "fellow police officer" but with the "gay" part added in.
   
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Monster Rain wrote:
Radiation wrote:Lt. Pike ... fellow gay police officer


Lt. Pike is gay?


I didn't insert a comma between fellow and gay. That would probably solve some of the confusion.

   
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He's been overlooked for too long.

He'll surely get promotion now for his swift, decisive and successful employment of tactical non-lethal persuasion techniques to defuse a very nasty situation.

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Kilkrazy wrote:He's been overlooked for too long.

He'll surely get promotion now for his swift, decisive and successful employment of tactical non-lethal persuasion techniques to defuse a very nasty situation.


I'll bet you meant this facetiously but there's really only two ways, I personally see this going:
1. He gets fired, his union provides him with a lawyer and he gets rich.
2. The popularity of OWS fades and we all forget about it. He gets promoted.

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Option 3.

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190 page report released.

It appears the type of pepper spray used was/is not an "authorized weapon of use" by UCPD.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/04/11/uc-davis-pepper-spray-report-released_n_1418745.html

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/04/report-uc-davis-pepper-spray-incident-should-and-could-have-been-prevented.html

The saga continues.

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Doubt that Pike will lose his job over this, although could the students he assaulted could pursue civil damages?

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I doubt there will be any consequences for this, even though I think there should be. Using pepper spray on nonviolent offenders with no immediate or even implied threat of danger to people or property is an unauthorized use of force, in my book.

Spicuzza, the police chief, initially tried to convince officers not to wear riot gear or use batons or pepper spray, but she was unsuccessful, the report states.


Yeah right, no. All other things aside, if I'm the police chief, I'm not giving that order. Nonviolent protest or not, my guys would have been wearing their protective gear even if not the latter elements.

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